Bwa ha ha ha ha

oh well that obviously worked well.

Some people already do this.

Smegma. Uncircumcized guys don't have to wash their dicks so often.

That's why I chose this "arbitrary analogy". I would guess that most of us find piercing the ears of infants to be completely unnecessary, cosmetic and pretty damn ridiculous.

But when it's snipping off a piece of the penis for cosmetic reasons, it's perfectly acceptable, or even the preferred way of doing business. Again, I'm circumcised, and I don't really care if someone chooses to circumcise their child. However, I do think that it is unnecessary and silly.

No shit, huh.

< Wears glasses, too.

Shouldn't this thread be called

"Tip of the day"?

It still isn't really analogous to circumcision because it's something that's normally done voluntarily at a later age. Dads don't take their sons out to the mall on their 9th birthday to go get circumcised (yay!). It's something that's better done at a time when someone will have no recollection of it.

And it's pretty stupid that this argument is persisting because I'm not saying that anybody should get circumcised. I just haven't seen any really solid arguments against it except that you think it's "silly" and merely " cosmetic", but you don't know for a fact that there aren't health or hygienic benefits. And I don't really know that there are, but then I'm not saying that not being circumcised is dangerous or stupid or dirty. I just know that it doesn't hurt anything, and it's an accepted time-honored practice that I'm generally OK with.

Well, we don't know it doesn't hurt anything. I mean, lots of nerve endings ain't coming back from that. It hurts, it can get infected, it could be a formative trauma for dudes. It's just hard to tell. I wouldn't want my first experience of other people to be being tied down and cut while fully conscious. Maybe American (and Aussie) masculinity reflect relatively guarded and wary attitudes relative to other groups and it's related to that. The statistics are impractical, but it's easy to hypothesise that it might have negative effects as well as on-average health benefits (maybe circumcised dudes don't sleep around as much, thus avoiding HIV - did this study check?).

you definitely win the award for the most random shit in one post. note this little gem: The statistics are impractical, but it's easy to hypothesise that it might have negative effects as well as on-average health benefits (maybe circumcised dudes don't sleep around as much, thus avoiding HIV - did this study check?) is that how these thoughts race around in your head? think before you type? anyways...
yes, the study checked for that.
it also concluded that you're lazy, misinformed and have little insight when it comes to addressing an issue.
get back to us when you have the wherewithal to admit you have nothing to contribute to this thread.[/quote]

Touchy touchy. I am just saying that to say we can't isolate an effect statistically is very different from saying we know there is no effect. I do this shit for a living. Only way you could isolate it is to snip/not snip randomly.

I doubt there are significant negative impacts, but I can't prove it and neither can you, so reasonable people could imagine that there could be negative effects. They could tell any number of stories that we can't reject statistically. And nope, didn't track down whatever study you're referring to, but saw the one that came out a few months ago, and have seen quite a few statistically sloppy public health talks/papers in my time.

Are you so angry 'cause of formative trauma related to penile incision, or just being a jerk? I can't tell.

You people do realize that all garden variety circumcisions done these days (i.e. not done by a Moyle) involve no actual cutting whatsoever, right? It's just a small plastic cap that pops off the tip after like a day or so. Much less painful and barbaric than many of you are making it out to be.

just being a jerk.

You're right that it is an option, but from my experience, most physicians use the scalpel. just sayin'.

you guys sure care a lot about dick skin

hells yea massive thread!

but seriously...

all you guys
with teh dog dick
need to stop bragging
and being defensive

shit
acting all like the mudflap
gives your pud soul
...
cause it doesn't

welcome to america,
your wiener is ugly

haha.

Although, based on this thread, it sounds like the cutties are the ones who are getting defensive with their, "I'M MORE HEALTHIER THAN YOU GODDAMMIT!" sentiments. Jus' Sayin'.