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The Smiths' guitar legend Johnny Marr has revealed the reasons behind his decision to team up with US indie veterans Modest Mouse.

The star caused a surprise when it was revealed last year that he was on board for the band's new album 'We Were Dead Before The Ship Even Sank'.

But Marr has admitted to NME.COM that he is "open-minded" about the situation, though he isn't actually an official member yet

He said: "It started off just as me writing some songs with Isaac (Brook, MM mainman) and I wasn't looking beyond that. Then it became about me recording these songs as an album with these musicians. Then when the record started to sound as it did, I felt like I wanted to go out and play my part and show my commitment to what I'd done. And I'm still in that frame of mind.

"I was completely open-minded as to what it may or may not be. As it turned out, we wrote the first single ('Dashboard') on the first night and got on really strong roll straight from the off. I don't think they've officially asked me to join yet, I'm just hanging around! But it would be a good idea for us to do some more I think."

He added: "We're not a pretty boy band. We're serious about playing. But Modest Mouse are a very welcoming, quirky bunch of people so I fit in very nicely. Isaac's very good at creating a family environment. It's very funny, very sarcastic and very progressive."

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my sentiments exactly.

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there are probably more sure fire ways for Johnny Marr to make $$$ than joining Modest Mouse.

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there are probably more sure fire ways for Johnny Marr to make $$$ than joining Modest Mouse.




Huh? Like what, put out that long overdue solo album that no one would buy?


He co-wrote songs that are on an album that went #1. He'll get royalties and a steady paycheck from selling out mid-large venues around the world.

Yeah, bad call on his part.


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you're thinking of audioslave


Wasn't saying it in a dergatory way. He's a grownup and he needs to pay his bills. His job is: "musician". His reason is: $$$

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there are probably more sure fire ways for Johnny Marr to make $$$ than joining Modest Mouse.

Huh? Like what, put out that long overdue solo album that no one would buy?

He co-wrote songs that are on an album that went #1. He'll get royalties and a steady paycheck from selling out mid-large venues around the world.

marr's career is fascinating. he's been in a number of popular bands (smiths, the the, pretenders, modest mouse), but never been the biggest star in any. he was always at least the second-biggest name. he's like the character actor that gets great critical reviews, but can't carry an entire film by himself. he knows his place, which is why this modest mouse thing has come up and he's not started his own band instead. it already exists and he can add to the direction that they seem to be going toward.


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marr's career is fascinating. he's been in a number of popular bands (smiths, the the, pretenders, modest mouse), but never been the biggest star in any. he was always at least the second-biggest name.

let's not forget the excellent Electronic!

that johnny marr & the healers album from a couple years ago was pretty average.


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Z Wrote:
Rick Derris Wrote:
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there are probably more sure fire ways for Johnny Marr to make $$$ than joining Modest Mouse.

Huh? Like what, put out that long overdue solo album that no one would buy?

He co-wrote songs that are on an album that went #1. He'll get royalties and a steady paycheck from selling out mid-large venues around the world.

marr's career is fascinating. he's been in a number of popular bands (smiths, the the, pretenders, modest mouse), but never been the biggest star in any. he was always at least the second-biggest name. he's like the character actor that gets great critical reviews, but can't carry an entire film by himself. he knows his place, which is why this modest mouse thing has come up and he's not started his own band instead. it already exists and he can add to the direction that they seem to be going toward.


plus, I've heard he gives great handjobs.


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plus, I've heard he gives great handjobs.

Only with his chording hand.


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i love these discussions about working or playing for money or motivation or whatever the case may be.
i remember an interview with thurston moore where he talks about people asking him why he's constantly playing shows, recording, working with diff't people, etc, and his response was something to the effect of [totally paraphrased] 'its like if i were to go stand outside the office of some 9-5er somewhere and when he/she shows up for work in the morning be like 'man, you're here doing this AGAIN?"'
i feel the bromance for thurston moore.

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i love these discussions about working or playing for money or motivation or whatever the case may be.
i remember an interview with thurston moore where he talks about people asking him why he's constantly playing shows, recording, working with diff't people, etc, and his response was something to the effect of [totally paraphrased] 'its like if i were to go stand outside the office of some 9-5er somewhere and when he/she shows up for work in the morning be like 'man, you're here doing this AGAIN?"'
i feel the bromance for thurston moore.


sorry thurston, that's a terrible analogy.

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I'm sure it's a combo of getting paid and working with a band he likes. But I really couldn't care less cause the album is good.

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I'm not sure that really said "why" he joined.
It says how they got playing, but no reasons for it.


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that johnny marr & the healers album from a couple years ago was pretty atrocious.


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that johnny marr & the healers album from a couple years ago was pretty atrocious.


The single that preceded that album was great, band had such promise. I think I only listened to that horrible album three times.




Not sure if this is any of the other Modest Mouse thread on this first page. Written by our own Katie.

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I don't recall hearing any of his post-Smiths stuff but I do recall reading that it's all very terrible.


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Actually just got a listen to this and thought it was pretty good. Never got too interested in Modest Mouse, and what little I have heard always seemed kinda boring and homogeneous. This one caught my interest. Don't know if it has anything to do with Marr or just the way the band was going, but I like the result.

Oh...and Thurston's analogy was great. People work to pay the bills. Musicians are no different. Unless they're one of the small fraction that are mega stars and have millions, most musicians, even ones who sell a moderate amount of records, still need to keep making money to get by...and it's not like they have retirement plans and health insurance. Most people who post on this board likely bring home more money than most of the indie bands that get talked about. You think that's the kind of income that encourages early retirement?


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Actually just got a listen to this and thought it was pretty good. Never got too interested in Modest Mouse, and what little I have heard always seemed kinda boring and homogeneous. This one caught my interest. Don't know if it has anything to do with Marr or just the way the band was going, but I like the result.




It's because it's actually listenable.

Their sound has come along way which is why, as Radcliffe puts it, their "early" fans are throwing themselves off bridges clutching their copy of "This Is a Long Drive for Someone with Nothing to Think About".

I don't think they've changed their sound so much as they know what they're doing now. They know how to crystalize their ideas better IMO.

I think I like this one better than "Good News..."


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Oh...and Thurston's analogy was great. People work to pay the bills. Musicians are no different. Unless they're one of the small fraction that are mega stars and have millions, most musicians, even ones who sell a moderate amount of records, still need to keep making money to get by...and it's not like they have retirement plans and health insurance. Most people who post on this board likely bring home more money than most of the indie bands that get talked about. You think that's the kind of income that encourages early retirement?


"thurston, why are you making that vinyl only noise album with 30 minute songs?"
"same reason you go to work man, to put food on the table"

if all he did was make sonic youth albums and tour i'd buy the quote, but the quote was why does he do all those other things. and if he's saying he does all his wierd side projects to support his family he's being disingenuous. i bet he loses money on a good portion of his side projects.

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Marr's work on those The The records is really cool. He was even good on that mediocre Pretenders record. I was never a Smiths guy but I've always had an ear open for Marr.


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I can't wait for Morrissey to join 764-HERO.


Two things: isn't 764.HERO defunct, & weren't Modest Mouse & 764.HERO collaborators (or, at least, on speaking terms)? Especially if the second, then, I would suppose that Moz would have to join a re-constituted Murder City Devils (per thread where Ike Brock's alleged raping came up as a topic, the MCD are friends to the recanting victim, & still harbour a grudge on Brock/his band)... No?


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