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Bush Commutes Libby's Prison Term in CIA Leak Case (Update1)

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July 2 (Bloomberg) -- President George W. Bush commuted Lewis ``Scooter'' Libby's prison term in the CIA leak case, saying the 2 1/2 year prison term was ``excessive.''

Libby, 56, was convicted of lying to investigators probing the 2003 leak of CIA official Valerie Plame's identity. Backers of Libby, former chief of staff to Vice President Dick Cheney, had argued for a pardon. Bush acted after a U.S. appellate court today refused to let Libby stay out of prison during his appeal.

``My decision to commute his prison sentence leaves in place a harsh punishment for Mr. Libby,'' Bush said in a statement. ``The consequences of his felony conviction on his former life as a lawyer, public servant, and private citizen will be long- lasting.''

The president's action means that Libby's conviction still stands and he is still required to pay the $250,000 fine ordered by a federal judge.

The question of whether to intervene in Libby's case had been termed a ``no-win situation'' for the president by David Gergen, who advised Presidents Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan and Bill Clinton.

With Bush already suffering poor approval ratings, a Cable News Network/Opinion Research survey conducted after Libby's March 6 conviction found that 69 percent of respondents opposed a pardon while 18 percent favored it. Congressional Democrats, including Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid, demanded that Bush promise not to pardon Libby.

Pro-Libby Firestorm

At the same time, a pro-Libby firestorm was being fanned by self-described conservative bloggers and talk-radio hosts, and many conservative leaders asked the president to step in.

Until now Bush had stayed out of the case, with his aides saying he would let the appeal go forward.

Libby's supporters argued that special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald was over-zealous in prosecuting Libby for lying to investigators when no one was charged over the actual leak of Plame's status as a Central Intelligence Agency official.

Libby was convicted of obstructing justice, perjury and making false statements. He resigned as Cheney's chief of staff upon being indicted in 2005.

Libby was found guilty of lying to Federal Bureau of Investigation agents and a grand jury probing whether the Bush administration deliberately leaked Plame's identity to retaliate against her husband, Joseph Wilson. In a New York Times column on July 6, 2003, Wilson accused the government of twisting intelligence to justify the invasion of Iraq earlier that year.

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Plame's status as a CIA official was disclosed eight days later in an article by syndicated columnist Robert Novak. Novak testified during the trial that Plame's identity was provided to him by then-Deputy Secretary of State Richard Armitage and confirmed by White House political adviser Karl Rove.

Fitzgerald argued that Libby lied about his knowledge of the leak to protect his job. It's a federal crime to knowingly reveal the identity of a covert CIA agent, and the White House had announced that anyone who leaked Plame's identity would be fired. No one was charged with a crime or fired for the leak.

Libby's lawyers said national security matters kept him too preoccupied to remember details about the leak.


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yeah it does, but for more reasons than this alone.

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Jeesus, Bush knows he's not up for reëlection in 2008, right?


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sure looks that way.

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Then why all the pandering to the base? I keep waiting for him to say "screw y'all, I gots nothin' to lose" and pardon everyone who ever voted for him. This half-pardon just doesn't make sense.

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another nail in the cheney / bush junta's corrupt coffin. i'm almost hoping for more of these moves on the road out... guarantee that their corrupt party will not be in control after the next election.

this was really expected, but seriously, it's just infuriating to see it happen. pardoning a guy who's outing our national security interests and lying about it... it's not even remotely defensible.


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he may not have much of a base to pander to, but, as this piece in slate acknowledges, "The number of people who would be angered by a pardon who haven't already abandoned the president could fit in an airport shuttle bus." he'd be doing more damage to his party by not pardoning him than he would be helping if he didn't.

and, in all honesty, it wasn't libby who outed plame--it was armitage. right?

originally posted on slate.com 6/11/07 Wrote:
Judge Reggie Walton set the pardon alarm clock today. Scooter Libby will go to prison six to eight weeks from now, unless President Bush intervenes. Walton denied Libby's request that he remain free pending his appeal of his two-and-a-half-year sentence for perjury and obstruction of justice. The vice president's former chief of staff will appeal the sentencing, but if he loses, the pressure will be on the president.

It has always been the view among Cheney loyalists and former Bush administration officials who have followed the case closely that the president would never allow Libby to spend a single day in an orange jumpsuit. The few people who may have held serious conversations with the president about a pardon are staying mum (this is the Bush administration, after all). But those I've talked to who know the president well and have worked for him predict a pardon for two reasons.

First: Dick Cheney. The vice president may not be winning as many foreign-policy battles as he used to, but Libby's fate is a highly personal matter for Cheney. He will ask Bush for a pardon, and he is unlikely to back down. If Bush resists, Cheney could argue that his close aide Libby should not go to jail while Karl Rove, another key figure in the scandal, has been protected by Bush and the administration.

The second reason Libby will walk is President Bush's dismal approval rating. The number of people who would be angered by a pardon who haven't already abandoned the president could fit in an airport shuttle bus. Given the conservative defections from Bush over his support of immigration reform, a pardon of Libby—which would be popular with conservatives—might actually improve his approval ratings. Libby's conviction is seen as such an outrage among conservatives that one former Bush aide suggested "the consequences of not pardoning, if Scooter is led away in shackles, will be uglier than pardoning."

The issue of Libby's pardon raises thorny questions for the Republican presidential candidates. In the debate last week, all 10 GOP candidates were asked if President Bush should pardon Libby. Rep. Ron Paul and former Virginia Gov. Jim Gillmore said they would not, but several others said or intimated that he should. Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani offered the prevailing Republican critique: A runaway prosecutor convicted Libby, even though he did not commit the underlying crime of leaking the name of the undercover CIA agent.

Rudy Giuliani was particularly adamant that prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald overreached. It seems inconsistent that a law-and-order candidate would appear to countenance lying to a grand jury and FBI agents, particularly as he campaigned to head a party that has always championed the rule of law.
All-but-announced candidate Fred Thompson has been a consistent vocal critic of the Libby prosecution, but for him that is an intellectually consistent position: He voted against Clinton's perjury charge when he was in the Senate and worked in the Senate to kill the independent counsel law. As Libby's strongest defender among the crop of candidates, would Thompson consider bringing Libby into a Thompson administration? Thompson's spokesperson didn't respond to this question by press time, but it would seem that the only logical answer for Thompson or any other GOP candidate would be to welcome Libby, if not actively court him. They say they believe Libby has been wrongly convicted, which means they should have no legal objection. Based on Libby's résumé, they shouldn't have any substantive problems, either. The GOP foreign-policy and legal establishment testified effusively about Libby's qualifications in letters asking Judge Walton for a lenient sentence.
It would be a bold and principled stance for a GOP candidate to say he'd welcome Libby into his administration and probably as unlikely to happen as a pardon is certain. It would curry favor with conservatives but risk brutal political problems in the general election. However, it would be the human thing to do if they really are convinced Libby has been wronged. In 1987, Reagan's Labor Secretary Ray Donovan famously asked after his acquittal on larceny and fraud charges: "Which office do I go to to get my reputation back?" He worried that the sensational coverage of his indictment would always overpower the smaller news coverage of his exoneration. One way for Libby's supporters running for president to restore his good name would be to send him a job application now.

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libby was at least integral in outing plame, and then did cheney's bidding to cover the whole thing up. it's part and parcel of their usurping the lever's of the executive branch to sell fake fugging wars and serve their own nefarious purposes, all the while keeping these abuses as secret as possible. i don't understand how this behavior doesn't warrant impeachment of the both of them.

also see the failure of cheney to submit to the national archive's requests to manage cheney's use of classified materials b/c in cheney's words "the vp is outside the executive branch". should we just call him dictator cheney at this point?


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he prefers "emperor"

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do you think bush knows that he just plays president on tv?


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b/c in cheney's words "the vp is outside the executive branch".


yeah, i saw that. how about we create a new branch for him? the legecutive branch. i think the most maddening thing is that they're so corrupt and somehow pull it off smelling like a rose. . . well they smell like shit, but they're still running the damn show.

will someone please find the watergate tapes already so we can disparage these guys for the rest of history?

edit: if someone actually came forward with the proverbial "watergate tapes" do you think they'd claim mea culpa or would they stonewall for the next year and a half?

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the only way anything happens is if public outrage convinces the repubs in congress that it's in their best interests to impeach. otherwise it'll never happen. future investigations will prove their corruption for sure, and i'm sure they'll be regarded in nixonian terms or worse at that point.


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I've said this before, but I believe the Republicans were expecting this when they impeached Clinton for "sexual relations." Any legitimate complaint against Bush will be sold as "vindictive partisan attacks," and dismissed as simple revenge.


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that's a good point, but they would say "lying before a grand jury"....and now you know why neither of them will ever testify under oath before congress... payback time when they inevitably lie.


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This whole 8 year administration has killed my interest in politics. It's like I'm so mad that I can't even get mad anymore.


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upon witnessing the criminality of this admin, i am frankly surprised that we still have a republic after 225 odd years. i wouldn't be surprised to see it vanish in my lifetime. all it will take is a big terrorist attack here. poof.


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blame the founding partners for giving the executive this power

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I wouldn't be so pissed about this if:
A: Bush had not stated he would make sure that whomever was involved with this would no longer be a part of his administration, and that he would accept whatever occurred through the judicial process
B: The judges in both the appeal and initial cases weren't Republican appointees as is the prosecutor, so the Conservatives could actually claim partisan retribution and an excessive prosecutorial stance.
C: I would have seen Faux news really discuss this in the manner CNN and MSNBC have.

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someone brought this up on another board: paris hilton did more jail time than libby.

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someone brought this up on another board: paris hilton did more jail time than libby.


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2009 can't fucking get here fast enough.


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The libs are going to be spitting up their lattes up on this one.


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plus he only commuted the sentence so that libby won't talk for the remainder of the term. he'll claim the 5th until Bush officially pardons him by wiping the conviction, and the fine. ugh, i'm disgusted by the asshat in chief.


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All I could think when I read this... it must be awesome to have such confidence in your decision-making skills that you really don't give a shit what most people would think. Really... I wonder how that feels, because I'd like to be that confident. Not a dumbfuck, just confident.

I'm past pissed off... it's so... EXPECTED these days.


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