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Do you have enough Crowell to do a tenner? I only have Fate's Right Hand


I have a bunch of his stuff here at the office.


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Just getting around to billyg's Kevin Welch tenner- never heard this guy before, but enjoying it a lot. His voice reminds me of T-Bone Burnett.


Not one of mine. i've never heard of him.


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Just getting around to billyg's Kevin Welch tenner- never heard this guy before, but enjoying it a lot. His voice reminds me of T-Bone Burnett.


Not one of mine. i've never heard of him.


Oops. It was seafoam- sorry, man.

Listening to the Josh Rouse from FT now- another one I've heard of, but not heard anything by the guy until now. It's not bad by any means- perfectly unobjectionable. Just a little too vanilla, overall, I think- I lie a little grit in my music.


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pearl jam - back when spin the black circle came out as a single, i declared i was done with pj. pretty foolish, i guess as i really enjoyed this set. i might need to check out the albums i've missed out on. thanks again DJ.

edit: and since i lost my singles soundtrack years ago, it's damn good to have "state of love and trust" back!


Glad you liked it, man. I had a lot of fun putting it together. Post-Vitalogy is actually pretty great. Then there's all their live albums, too.

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pearl jam - back when spin the black circle came out as a single, i declared i was done with pj. pretty foolish, i guess as i really enjoyed this set. i might need to check out the albums i've missed out on. thanks again DJ.

edit: and since i lost my singles soundtrack years ago, it's damn good to have "state of love and trust" back!


Glad you liked it, man. I had a lot of fun putting it together. Post-Vitalogy is actually pretty great. Then there's all their live albums, too.


yeah, didn't they put out 100+ live shows or something? is there one universally agreed upon show that is head and shoulders above the rest that i should check out?

shit, looking at amazon, looks like that live at the gorge set might be the way to go.

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shit, looking at amazon, looks like that live at the gorge set might be the way to go.


It's fantastic, another one I can hook you up with.

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shit, looking at amazon, looks like that live at the gorge set might be the way to go.


It's fantastic, another one I can hook you up with.


oh man, i just bought it used from amazon....thanks for the offer though. this should scratch my itch for a while.....

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shit, looking at amazon, looks like that live at the gorge set might be the way to go.


It's fantastic, another one I can hook you up with.


oh man, i just bought it used from amazon....thanks for the offer though. this should scratch my itch for a while.....


You won't be disappointed, especially for a 7 disc set.

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Listened to the second half of DumpJack's Bootsy Collins tenner today. This is my first time listening to any of Bootsy's stuff as a band leader, and it's a pretty good companion to all the P-Funk stuff. It isn't quite up to that same level, but it's fun nonetheless.

I also just finished billyg's Betty Davis tenner. I liked it a little better than the Bootsy stuff (rawer, punchier), but I wasn't blown away. It's cool to hear a woman do the down-and-dirty funk thing, and I like the energy to it. I might this mix later when I'm more in the mood for this type of thing.


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Tony Joe White - only knew TJW from a couple tracks on the 3 volumes of Country Got Soul, and there's nothing here that strays too far from that sound, thank god. Good stuff.

Bill Fay - this has got me interested enough to start looking for the albums proper. A little too oddball to be considered straight folk.

Robert Pollard - Nope. Don't like GBV, and don't like schoolmarm Bob by himself either. It's nothing annoying or anything, it's just that the world is filled with, y'know, musicians who actually TRY to create something larger than just filling up silence with noise.

Kathleen Edwards - I always like her more than I think I will. Guess I usually feel like I don't need to collect the whole set of "alt.country songstresses not named Lucinda", but she might still wear me down.


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man, I am so slow on this... I haven't listened to hardly any of my downloads yet, and you guys have been adding them so fast, I haven't caught up on what's new. I've enjoyed what I have listened to so far though....

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Robert Pollard-- it's just that the world is filled with, y'know, musicians who actually TRY to create something larger than just filling up silence with noise.


There's plenty of other music out there that I would call noise. Bob can write a melody like no other and within that framework he takes more chances that payoff more than 'maybe' anyone I've ever heard. I had an inkling I wouldn't win you or perhaps others over with these ten tracks. That said, your comment is somewhat informed in that some of Pollard's back catalogue could be categorized as such, but the tracks I put up are about as white noise free (except for tape hiss on the first track), straight up, complete songs filled with seamless hooks. Which leads me to believe you gave it a cursory listen and moved on. Really, I don't care. I was just pointing something out. I already know the OB is filled with plenty of Bob haters anyway.

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There's plenty of other music out there that I would call noise. Bob can write a melody like no other and within that framework he takes more chances that payoff more than 'maybe' anyone I've ever heard. I had an inkling I wouldn't win you or perhaps others over with these ten tracks. That said, your comment is somewhat informed in that some of Pollard's back catalogue could be categorized as such, but the tracks I put up are about as white noise free (except for tape hiss on the first track), straight up, complete songs filled with seamless hooks. Which leads me to believe you gave it a cursory listen and moved on. Really, I don't care. I was just pointing something out. I already know the OB is filled with plenty of Bob haters anyway.

I don't mean "noise" in the tape hiss/tv static way, I mean noise in the sense of all sound waves, organized or not. I'm not arguing, and never have, that Pollard can't write a hook - my point has always been that that is ALL he can write. For all the claims of his cult, he just doesn't know how to construct an actual working pop song. You say you hear the payoff - I say I don't. There's never a sense of build-up or climax in a Pollard song IMO. And without that climactic payoff a pop song is merely an ad jingle. "Supernatural Car Lover" is the closest thing on the tenner to what I'd consider a successful song. Up to the instrumental break it actually seems to be going somewhere, but then after that break it just hits the usual Pollard 3rd gear and repeats itself to no effect and then fades out. And that's as good as he gets.

Also, I find his vocals the epitome of merely adequate.

You ever hear of a band called Belleville? They write better songs than this.


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You ever hear of a band called Belleville? They write better songs than this.


Now there's a tenner.

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the sheer volume of his output is commendable, but yeah he's always struck me as aural oatmill

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the sheer volume of his output is commendable, but yeah he's always struck me as aural oatmill


While I can't say I've always been enamoured with GBV or Pollard solo I've never deleted or sold back any of the albums I own. On the flip side, I rarely grab them, with the exception of Isolation Drills.

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i've never bought a GBV album, but i'm much the same way when it comes to their mp3s

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There's plenty of other music out there that I would call noise. Bob can write a melody like no other and within that framework he takes more chances that payoff more than 'maybe' anyone I've ever heard. I had an inkling I wouldn't win you or perhaps others over with these ten tracks. That said, your comment is somewhat informed in that some of Pollard's back catalogue could be categorized as such, but the tracks I put up are about as white noise free (except for tape hiss on the first track), straight up, complete songs filled with seamless hooks. Which leads me to believe you gave it a cursory listen and moved on. Really, I don't care. I was just pointing something out. I already know the OB is filled with plenty of Bob haters anyway.

I don't mean "noise" in the tape hiss/tv static way, I mean noise in the sense of all sound waves, organized or not. I'm not arguing, and never have, that Pollard can't write a hook - my point has always been that that is ALL he can write. For all the claims of his cult, he just doesn't know how to construct an actual working pop song. You say you hear the payoff - I say I don't. There's never a sense of build-up or climax in a Pollard song IMO. And without that climactic payoff a pop song is merely an ad jingle. "Supernatural Car Lover" is the closest thing on the tenner to what I'd consider a successful song. Up to the instrumental break it actually seems to be going somewhere, but then after that break it just hits the usual Pollard 3rd gear and repeats itself to no effect and then fades out. And that's as good as he gets.

Also, I find his vocals the epitome of merely adequate.

You ever hear of a band called Belleville? They write better songs than this.



Good comments by the way >>

Just curious what your definition of an actual working pop song is ?

With Pollard, the promise has always been better than the real thing. The payoff is the melody (the ride), where's he going doesn't matter all that much to me. There's no gravity to Bob's lyrics, so you can throw that one out. Now Bob Dylan or Neil Young, I get something completely different out of their arrangements/songs from a listening standpoint.

Discussing music is overrated.

Thanks for the Belleville comment A.M. Appreesh. That said, I do not concur.

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there goes the board

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RE: Allman Bros. Tenner.

I think this is the first time I've ever heard "No One Left to Run With" under fewer than two substances, much less SOBER.

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If Pollard ever tops "Glad Girls" I'll eat my hat. That 1 song made me a GBV fan, and while I like a lot of their stuff, I have sort of come around to Rads' way of thinking that its more tossed off ideas than actual songs or anything.

And, its not danceable, really, so you know can't fuck to it.

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Tommy Womack - anyone who's interested in learning a little more about him, our local alt-weekly ran a piece on him last year around the release of his latest record. The theme is of a middle-aged, once and former rocker who now knows the reality of music as a chosen lifetime pursuit.

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“If anybody has not been screwed over by the music industry, it’s me. I’ve had chance after chance, one at-bat after another. Nobody ever twisted my arm and made me get drunk before going onstage. No one made me do a show stoned. No one made me run at the mouth at the microphone not knowing what my point was. And, in the long run, I never gave the music industry a song it could use. Commercial is not a bad thing. The Sermon on the Mount is commercial. But what did I do? I gave the machine an eight-minute-long song about The Replacements.”


Article --> Never Gonna Be a Rock Star


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Tommy Womack - anyone who's interested in learning a little more about him, our local alt-weekly ran a piece on him last year around the release of his latest record. The theme is of a middle-aged, once and former rocker who now knows the reality of music as a chosen lifetime pursuit.

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Tommy Womack Wrote:
“If anybody has not been screwed over by the music industry, it’s me. I’ve had chance after chance, one at-bat after another. Nobody ever twisted my arm and made me get drunk before going onstage. No one made me do a show stoned. No one made me run at the mouth at the microphone not knowing what my point was. And, in the long run, I never gave the music industry a song it could use. Commercial is not a bad thing. The Sermon on the Mount is commercial. But what did I do? I gave the machine an eight-minute-long song about The Replacements.”


Article --> Never Gonna Be a Rock Star


And in an unexpected development for a Monday morning, DumpJack has found a new hero. Listening to his songs right now and am bowled over. 'She Ain't Speakin' to Me' might be my song of the week.

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And in an unexpected development for a Monday morning, DumpJack has found a new hero. Listening to his songs right now and am bowled over. 'She Ain't Speakin' to Me' might be my song of the week.


Tommy Womack Wrote:
I gave The Machine an eight-minute-long song about The Replacements.



btw - the last page of that article is blank for me, goddammit.


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