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since YOU brought that bullshit tape in!
besides, you can't just replace an adjective with a noun. "if i weren't so douche bag..." doesn't make sense.


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I've clearly been outclassed, because I have no idea what this is in reference to.


Not outclassed just out-randomed (a new made up word). When you mention "tape" did you mean Sage Francis or something else that i'm unaware of?

I was confused.

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high fidelity - the special tape for monday morning, SPECIAL, for YOU, and you had to go and ruin it


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HaqDiesel Wrote:
high fidelity - the special tape for monday morning, SPECIAL, for YOU, and you had to go and ruin it

Clearly i'm uncool and didn't catch the reference. I plan on doing the Charlie Brown sulk the rest of the day. I apologize for my lameness.


I still love throwing around "douche bag" whenever i can.

Forget her, she broke your heart.

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jewels santana Wrote:
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if i could listen to sage francis voice for more than a few bars i might give that theory a shot.


If i could make it through 50's lame lyricals and weak flow i might be able to listen to the album more often, oh wait it's all over the radio...i can't escape him.


if you think sage has a better flow than 50 than we clearly have different thoughts on the subject. i'll give you the lyrics, but only because i can't quantifiably defend them and he goes cartoonishly overboard sometimes.


If you think 50 Cent has any skills of any sort you're out of it like I am by how boring his flow/voice are.

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i can see not likeing 50, but finding him boring? i don't see it.
one of the more lyrical and inventive voices in rap history.

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i can see not likeing 50, but finding him boring? i don't see it.
one of the more lyrical and inventive voices in rap history.

He's got a lazy drawl and mush mouthed words. Real inventive.

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jewels santana Wrote:
i can see not likeing 50, but finding him boring? i don't see it.
one of the more lyrical and inventive voices in rap history.
let's not suck his dick here, dude can flow sometimes but he sounds like Ma$e.


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chase Wrote:
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i can see not likeing 50, but finding him boring? i don't see it.
one of the more lyrical and inventive voices in rap history.
let's not suck his dick here, dude can flow sometimes but he sounds like Ma$e.


i think we already had a "he sounds like mase" debate on the old CMJ board. it went nowhere, so i won't go there again.

he's honestly one of my favorite rappers of all time, and when his mixtapes started coming out like crazy (in the months leading up to Get Rich) it was the most excited i had been about new rap in years.


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Why are you trying to argue with Haq?
That bitch is smart.


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jewels santana Wrote:
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i can see not likeing 50, but finding him boring? i don't see it.
one of the more lyrical and inventive voices in rap history.
let's not suck his dick here, dude can flow sometimes but he sounds like Ma$e.


i think we already had a "he sounds like mase" debate on the old CMJ board. it went nowhere, so i won't go there again.

he's honestly one of my favorite rappers of all time, and when his mixtapes started coming out like crazy (in the months leading up to Get Rich) it was the most excited i had been about new rap in years.


The only raps I've ever liked of his: In Da Club (cause it was new) and How We Do (because he was so much better than the game)...

I tried to like him, but it didn't stick...

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i still think "How to Rob" is pretty funny.


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Most of this threads preoccupation with getting paid strikes me as slightly opposed to the reason most of us filtered towards the CMJ and now obner sites... we wanted to learn about stuff we liked/loved. Most of us have dabbled our feet in other ponds (hipinion, pitchfork, etc...) and most of us seem to acknowledge the fakery, the bile, the "snarky" as some have noted previously, and the overall sense that it is a high act of pimpery, a con, a way for some to "get paid."

I've never liked pitchfork's reviews and have never used one to actually inform a purchase. I use to go for daily news, but I even gave up on that. Their reviews are spiteful, arbitrary, and on the whole utterly usless as a tool to inform readers as to what is worth buying and what is better off avoided. Even if they are getting paid, they seem to be failing at their reported purpose, and that deserves some disrespect from all of us.

Mainstream News is dumbed down, but I don't gotta like it. Indie Rock traditionally appeals to those more educated than the rest of the herd (hell it use to be labelled college rock back in the prehistoric eighties). For Pitchfork to become the clearinghouse of all things indie they need to come up with some criteria for reviewers that ties this to a reality we can all sort of see from our vantage points, or they too will jump the shark, and Ryan's so-called paycheck will not matter in the least.

They have a great opportunity to get better in the review area, and truly become informative as their daily news briefs, it'd be a shame if they missed "Capitalizing" on it.

Does that mean that I am jealous? Do I secretly want to swap places with Ryan to do his job "Better"? I dunno. I use to want to work in the music world, and I use to review ( I'd hazard a guess that most of you never noticed that I reviewed for CMJ for about a year).

I don't want Ryan's job, I don't think I could do it any better than he. I don't think i even want to give it all up to follow my muse in rock journalism anymore. All I want is Pitchfork to sort itself out and be as useful as it could be, to be as good as it hints at from time to time. If they'd turn that substantial corner, to quote the highly under-rated movie Robocop, "I'd buy that for a dollar."


Very nicely stated and I wish I could write like that.

I really like that part about Obner/CMJ and why were have made our home here. I have been, or so it seems, to every music related site on the web and none of them can compare to this one. We have an eclectic group and can actually like something that would be mocked at some other web sites. I also like our collective minds and might be the smartest music board as well, see this thread. Sure it’s just the Internet but I love reading the views and opinions of people on this board.

Back to Pitchforkmedia and will echo things that have been stated already. Too many reviewers got hung up on their cleaver word play instead of telling me what the album sounds like. I have no problem with a bit of personality but remember what you are doing in the first place.

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Sage, > 50 Cent > most indie hip-hop out right now.

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let's derail this back to 50.
i like his 'lazy' flow and i think he's been putting out some of the best street records in hip hop over the last few years. from earlier stuff like 'life's on the line' to 'ski mask way' now, not many people can make as good street records.

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and he also makes the best dance records. i DJ where people want to dance, and this new record combined with the 50 songs on the Game album were the best thing to happen to me. That's like 9 songs i can count on people getting excited about.

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WhineyCMJ Wrote:
Sage, > 50 Cent > most indie hip-hop out right now.


If you think Sage Francis is better than most indie hip-hop you probably shouldn't be commenting at all. I find 50 Cent to be one of the most uninteresting things I've ever heard. Honestly, 50 Cent's voice isn't that terrible during all of verses, but doesn't belong in any chorus ever. His two newest singles, "Candy Shop" and "Disco Inferno" are the best examples of it. He both has that same quiet, bored mumble in both choruses. "Candy Shop" sounds like a slightly updated "Disco Inferno" anyways(also, slightly more tolerable). Honestly, the first time I heard 50 Cent I thought it was a joke song cover made by some random guy just talking over the actual song. "In Da Club" has an amazing beat, ruined by this dumbass. Most of his tracks just sound like his voice was thrown at the bottom of the mix for that very reason, because he ruins every beat. Admittingly, I've not heard more than the singles and none of the mixtape stuff, and there's no chance I'd want to.

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ODB > Doom > Aesop > El Producto > Kool Keith on his worst day > Dizzee Rascal > Airborn Audio > Beans > Sage > Lil' Pocketknife > 50 Cent > most indie hip-hop out right now.


I'm just going off the top of my head, here, folks...

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Great, you know more than 5 rappers. Good job.

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Jigga>Big Boi>T.I.>MIKE JONES!>The Ying Yang Twinz>All a these other busters


I'm just going off the top of my head, here, folks...

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The Ying Yang Twinz aren't > anything.

Plus they look like they were the product of some cousin lovin.

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