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i'll bet they haven't either


Which is grounds for winning a copyright case. They should be able to prove they haven't heard that douchebag's music.


No way they can do that. If he was some obscure artist and the song had never had any sort of distribution, maybe. I'd say they're somewhat hosed on this one.


I agree. Hosed.

Didn't Robert Palmer have something similar to him? His song was just like some Australia or something that he claimed to have heard subliminally before he wrote his. I thought I remember him winning his case.


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Didn't Robert Palmer have something similar to him? His song was just like some Australia or something that he claimed to have heard subliminally before he wrote his. I thought I remember him winning his case.


never heard of that case, but george harrison said something similar about "my sweet lord" (i didn't consciously copy that cat stevens song, but i probably heard it) and lost. it doesn't matter whether it was intentional.


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I remember the Stones had an issue like this a few years back...they decided that they didn't want the hassle and just went ahead and gave the songwriting credit to KD Lang or whoever it was


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I remember the Stones had an issue like this a few years back...they decided that they didn't want the hassle and just went ahead and gave the songwriting credit to KD Lang or whoever it was


Yeah it was concerning the Stone's song "Anybody Seen My Baby" having a chorus pretty similar to KD Lang's "Constant Craving". It wasn't KD Lang seeking it out though and the Stones ended up just giving her a part credit in the song.

The Stones did pretty much fuck The Verve all the way with the "Bittersweet Symphony" case which pretty much killed off that band.

I was reading about this after your post jagged and I didn't know that due to the lawsuit The Verve not only never received a cent on the success of that song, the song was nominated for a grammy and the people listed on the nomination were Mick and Keith. They also cashed in huge when they sold it to Nike.

Lesson here, never fuck with The Stones.


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I remember the Stones had an issue like this a few years back...they decided that they didn't want the hassle and just went ahead and gave the songwriting credit to KD Lang or whoever it was


Yeah it was concerning the Stone's song "Anybody Seen My Baby" having a chorus pretty similar to KD Lang's "Constant Craving". It wasn't KD Lang seeking it out though and the Stones ended up just giving her a part credit in the song.

The Stones did pretty much fuck The Verve all the way with the "Bittersweet Symphony" case which pretty much killed off that band.

I was reading about this after your post jagged and I didn't know that due to the lawsuit The Verve not only never received a cent on the success of that song, the song was nominated for a grammy and the people listed on the nomination were Mick and Keith. They also cashed in huge when they sold it to Nike.

Lesson here, never fuck with The Stones.
i thought the story here was that the Stones didn't own the publishing to that song either, that some old manager had hustled them out of the rights and owned the publishing to the orchestral cover version that Ashcroft sampled. I suppose a quick trip to wikipedia would clear this up, but who has that kind of time?


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Yeah I think you're right that Andrew Loog Oldham got most of the benefits from "Bittersweet Symphony".


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Lesson here, never fuck with Allen Klein.

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Wouldn't it be more likely that Brian Eno stole the song than Coldplay?

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Didn't Robert Palmer have something similar to him? His song was just like some Australia or something that he claimed to have heard subliminally before he wrote his. I thought I remember him winning his case.


never heard of that case, but george harrison said something similar about "my sweet lord" (i didn't consciously copy that cat stevens song, but i probably heard it) and lost. it doesn't matter whether it was intentional.


The Chiffons not Cat Stevens.

I think the courts say you have to access to the song and they sound substantially similar. Or something like that.

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Flaming Lips was Cat Stevens.

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Yeah I think you're right that Andrew Loog Oldham got most of the benefits from "Bittersweet Symphony".


Yeah, ABKCO got the money, not Mick and Keef.

And I thought that the stones nixed a song that Keef came up with because it was basically a dead ringer for a KD Lang song?

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