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I guess I'm looking at ayah, Lump and Harry here, but I'm sure others of you have input. Recommend books discussing the social, biological and psychological issues surrounding the modern gender question from as unbiased and credentialed perspective as possible.


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wow, aaron.
i have no idea. i never read that kind of stuff and wouldn't have a clue as to where to even send you for information.

as i've stated before, i'm a very bad lesbian.
i don't really spend that much time being gay.


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I guess I'm looking at ayah, Lump and Harry here, but I'm sure others of you have input. Recommend books discussing the social, biological and psychological issues surrounding the modern gender question from as unbiased and credentialed perspective as possible.


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can you be a bit more specific as to what the "gender question" is? do you mean like how gender defines social roles or self-identified gender issues in psychology or something else entirely? because i've been looking towards reading "Qur'an and Woman: Rereading the Sacred Text from a Woman's Perspective", if only because i took the author's class and think that she may be a nutjob.


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Yeah, I was a little vague because I'd like to learn more about progressive gender perspectives in general. But mostly about self-determined gender, pro/con whether it's a "social construct," etc.


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Might be a bit specified, but Martin Seligman's What You Can Change and What You Can't has a little bit that discusses gender identity and transsexualism. Not sure if that's included in your scope or not.


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It sounds like it would be... what's it like?

EDIT: looked it up. Seems interesting, but I'm looking for stuff that leans more toward scholarship and less toward self-help.


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you might have to start with journals before full books.


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A collection of influential journal articles would be sweet, but I'm not about to go digging through backissues of "American Journal of Sociology" or something.


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maybe this and a quick lexis-nexis jaunt will be how you make your millions.


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are you looking at the birth/environment issue?


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I'm looking at whatever's relevant, I guess. That definitely, but I know there are also those who argue that gender is entirely a social construct. Hell, I don't even know what that means.


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For example, this book looks to be about what I'm looking for, but if there's something better/more respected out there I'd like to know it.


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maybe this is a little "forest for the trees", but NYU has a department of sexuality and gender studies. i've decided that graduate students have the right and obligation to pester other faculty if they want to learn something, especially for something as small as a prospective reading list.


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chase Wrote:
you might have to start with journals before full books.

A few cited in Seligman's end-notes:

Gender Identity
Archives of Sexual Behavior 6 (1977): 387-95
Archives of General Psychiatry 36 (1979): 1001-7
... Sexual Behavior 17 (1988): 439-57
... Sexual Behavior 18 (1989): 145-53
Journal of Sex Research 4 (1987): 425-54
Journal of Homosexuality 1 (1976): 357-71
Psychoneuroendocrinology 9 (1984): 405-14
American Psychologist 42 (1987): 384-99
Handbook of Psychosomatic Obsterics and Gynecology (1983): 51-60

Gender Role
Developmental Review 5 (1985): 1-17
Psychology of Women Quarterly II (1987): 31-126
The Psychology Of Sex Differences (E. Maccoby, C. Jacklin, 1974)
Psychiatry 51 (1988): 260-71
Psychological Science 3 (1992): 203-6
Man and Woman, Boy And Girl (J. Money, A. Ehrhardt, 1972)
Signs: Journal of Women in Culture And Society 16 (1990): 55-73
The Adaptive Mind: Evolutionary Psychology and the Generation of Culture (J Barko, L. Cosmides, J. Tooby, 1992)
Nonverbal Sex Differences: Communication Accuracy and Expressive Styles (J. Hall, 1984)
Review of Educational Research 62 (1992): 61-84


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Thanks for the list, Sketch - I'll look into some of those.

And that's a good point chase. I make conspicuously little use of the resources available to me, right down to the fact that I could be checking books out from Bobst instead of buying them on Amazon.


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Thanks for the list, Sketch - I'll look into some of those.

And that's a good point chase. I make conspicuously little use of the resources available to me, right down to the fact that I could be checking books out from Bobst instead of buying them on Amazon.
i know what you mean, man. a couple of years ago i was doing the same thing before i realized that i worked in the library. i had to look myself in the mirror and say "you know, maybe college just isn't the place for you, because you are fucking stupid".


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She's just published this:

2004, Roughgarden, J., Evolution's Rainbow: Diversity, Gender, and Sexuality in Nature and People. University of California Press. Berkeley CA. 474 pp.

This would probably be a good biologist / transsexual approach. I'm looking forward to reading it myself.

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Not sure if this is exactly what you are looking for, but I had to read this book for a Racism and Society Course in School. I found it very interesting...

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/ ... 78-9457551


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a prof at northwestern was an expert in gay and trangender studies in twins... did they both end up gay, the ilk.

http://www.psych.northwestern.edu/psych ... earch.html

but, then again, bailey just got in trouble recently for allegedly sleeping with one of his transsexual clients/patients. and a couple interns. oops.


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Sexing the Body: Gender Politics and the Construction of Sexuality
by Anne Fausto-Sterling (biologist) has been recommended to me as that sort of thing once or twice but I haven't gotten 'round to it so I can't vouch one way or the other.


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ayah Wrote:
as i've stated before, i'm a very bad lesbian.


apparently i'm more of a gender nonconformist.
and i thought i just liked kissing girls.


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The psychology of gender (2nd Ed.). Eagly, Alice H. Ed; Beall, Anne E. ; Ed; Sternberg, Robert J. ; Ed


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