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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:48 pm 
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GM lets Saab die


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- General Motors is shutting down its Swedish car brand, Saab, after attempts to close a deal with a buyer failed.

GM had announced earlier this year that it was close to reaching a deal with Swedish super-carmaker Koenigsegg. That deal fell, though.

"In the end, Koenigsegg discovered some issues they didn't think could be overcome in a timely fashion," said John Smith, GM vice president of corporate planning and alliances.

Dutch exotic carmaker Spyker then emerged as a bidder for Saab, but that deal couldn't be concluded in time, GM said.

In both cases, according to GM, issues arose during negotiations that prevented a final sale. GM executives would not say what the specific problems were, however.

"Like everybody, we would have preferred a different outcome," Smith said.

GM said it still intends to sell some Saab 9-3 and 9-5 technologies to the Chinese automaker Beijing Automotive Industry Holdings Co. Ltd. That deal was announced last week.

With GM's announcement that it's winding down Saab, BAIC or other companies may be able to buy more of Saab's assets, possibly even the brand name itself, Smith said. But no buyers have expressed interest, yet.
Brands we loved ... and lost in 2009

"Despite the best efforts of all involved, it has become very clear that the due diligence required to complete this complex transaction could not be executed in a reasonable time. In order to maintain operations, Saab needed a quick resolution," said GM Europe President Nick Reilly. "We regret that we were not able to complete this transaction with Spyker Cars."

GM has owned the Swedish automaker since 1989; Saab has been making cars since 1949. GM will now begin winding down Saab production, but warranties will continue to be honored, and spare parts will still be available, the company said.

In the past two decades, GM has made every effort to turn Saab into a profitable car brand, Smith said. But recent global economic problems were simply too much for the still-weak automaker to survive.

"It's a business that has struggled more years than not during its existence," Smith said.

A total of 3,400 employees will be directly affected by Saab's closure, GM spokesman Chris Pruess said.

Saab has never been a big-selling car brand, but the recent global recession and news of the brand's possible demise have driven sales down to crisis levels. Saab's U.S. sales have been down by more than half so far this year.

Sweden's other major automaker, Volvo, is currently owned by Ford, which is in the process of selling it to the Chinese automaker Geely.

As part of its bankruptcy restructuring, GM planned to sell of or wind down four of the eight brands it recently operated. Pontiac is being wound down; a deal to sell the Saturn brand to Penske Automotive fell through in September; and a deal to sell the Hummer SUV brand to Chinese heavy equipment maker Sichuan Tengzhong is awaiting government approvals.

GM's remaining brands are Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac.


http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/18/autos/saab_closed/index.htm


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PostPosted: Fri Dec 18, 2009 2:51 pm 
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Good riddance.

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No kidding. I hope this helps to boost Volvo sales enough so my brother-in-law gets his job back.


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I had a buddy e-mail me this morning with the same piece. Good riddance indeed. My 2000 9-3 is still sitting at my former mechanic's shop with a blown engine.

I now drive a Hyundai Sonata like the one pictured below

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As a former owner of one, I can confidently say that GM really didn't need to do anything, as all Saabs die on their own in pretty short order as it is.

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Good riddance.


No kidding. This day & age w/ the Internets, why would anyone buy one after reading the reviews?

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
Good riddance.


seconded, from personal experience.

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discostu Wrote:
I had a buddy e-mail me this morning with the same piece. Good riddance indeed. My 2000 9-3 is still sitting at my former mechanic's shop with a blown engine.

I now drive a Hyundai Sonata like the one pictured below

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Saab may get a second life


NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- Don't close the coffin on Saab just yet.

Spyker, a Dutch maker of exotic cars, said Sunday that it had made a new offer to General Motors for the Swedish car brand.

GM announced on Friday that it would let the brand die after it had failed to reach a deal with potential buyers, including Spyker and Swedish carmaker Koenigsegg.

Early Sunday, Spyker Chief Executive Victor Muller said the company had submitted a proposal that addresses the issues that had hung up a deal.

"Despite our collective 11th-hour set-back, we are returning to the table with a renewed offer, that addresses every known issue brought to light during the initial negotiations and that has the full backing of the Saab management," Muller said in a statement.

"Our efforts are based on our passion for saving an iconic brand that we would be honored to shepherd, and the jobs and livelihoods of thousands of loyal Saab employees, suppliers and dealers around the world," he added.

Some 3,400 employees globally would be directly affected by Saab's closure, according to GM spokesman Chris Pruess.

In a statement on Sunday, GM said it had "received inquires from several parties" following Friday's announcement. The company added that it would "evaluate each inquiry."

Spyker's offer is set to expire Monday at 5 p.m. ET.

Saab has never been a big-selling car brand, but the recent global recession and news of the brand's possible demise have driven sales down to crisis levels. Saab's U.S. sales have fallen by more than half so far this year.

Sweden's other major automaker, Volvo, is currently owned by Ford (F, Fortune 500), which is in the process of selling it to the Chinese automaker Geely.
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GM previously said that the potential deals with both Spyker and Koenigsegg fell through because of unspecified issues that arose during negotiations.

As of Friday, GM was still planning to sell some Saab 9-3 and 9-5 technologies to the Chinese automaker Beijing Automotive Industry Holdings Co. Ltd. That deal was announced last week.

GM has owned a majority stake in the Swedish automaker since 1989; Saab has been making cars since 1949. GM will now begin winding down Saab production, but warranties will continue to be honored, and spare parts will still be available, the company said.
Brands we loved ... and lost in 2009

In the past two decades, GM has made every effort to turn Saab into a profitable car brand, Smith said. But recent global economic problems were simply too much for the still-weak automaker to survive.

As part of its government-sponsored bankruptcy restructuring, GM planned to sell of or wind down four of the eight brands it recently operated.

Pontiac is being wound down; a deal to sell the Saturn brand to Penske Automotive fell through in September; and a deal to sell the Hummer SUV brand to Chinese heavy equipment maker Sichuan Tengzhong is awaiting government approvals.

GM's remaining brands are Chevrolet, Buick, GMC and Cadillac.

http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/20/autos/saab_gm_spyker_offer/index.htm


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GM needs to take a hint from Ray Davies (and, later, from Chrissie Hynde)...

STOP YOUR SAABING!!!

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100126/ap_ ... us_gm_saab

SAAB Lives Again!

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FT Wrote:
GM needs to take a hint from Ray Davies (and, later, from Chrissie Hynde)...

STOP YOUR SAABING!!!


Ugh, that was baad.

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Promethium Wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100126/ap_on_bi_ge/us_gm_saab

SAAB Lives Again!



Wow, $74 Million in cash. That's just pitiful. Spyker only makes 100 cars a year and takes pride in hand-crafting their autos. Interesting to see how they'll mass produce.

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Under the deal, GM will continue to provide engines and transmissions for the new company for "an extended period of time," and it will keep making the 9-4X crossover vehicle for Saab, said John Smith, GM's vice president of planning and alliances. Crossovers have the interior room of an SUV but are built on a car instead of a truck frame.

Saab Automobile sold around 90,000 cars in 2008, a 30 percent decline from 2007. With another sharp sales decline expected, it filed for protection from creditors while it reorganized in February 2009.

Saab's U.S. sales last year amounted to only 8,680, down 59 percent from 2008 as consumers stayed away from the brand due to uncertainty over its future.


That sucks.


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Interesting article in the new Wired about Local Motors, the first open source car company to reach production, among other things in the article.

http://www.wired.com/magazine/2010/01/ff_newrevolution

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