The Dumpjack and Loogar listen to all things Stones thread

Rick Derris · **Posted:** Thu May 27, 2010 11:59 pm

Also, when did Fogerty become annoying?

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 12:00 am

Rick Derris Wrote:

catswilleatyou Wrote:

ya'll kill me for this but this is first time i've ever listened to these ... i'm absolutely loving 12x5.

my stones knowledge is only exile on main st and sticky fingers. anytime i went deeper than that nothing really got to me. but these first two have been great IMHO. go thread!

Man, I'm jealous. I wish I could discover all these records again. I didn't really dig into those early records until late college. You should definitely check out "Out of Our Heads", "Aftermath", and "Beggar's Banquet" when we get to them. Beggars is the one that made me really look at the Stones in a light outside of Hot Rocks.

I made myself a Stones mix the other day - just songs I like to ride around to right now while primary day stress is high. So man memories contained in the grooves of those records.

catswilleatyou · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 12:06 am

Rick Derris Wrote:

Also, when did Fogerty become annoying?

i'll try and keep this a stones thread from here on out. i prefer the first 3 CCR records and i can't dig on fogerty solo stuff at all (though its been years since i've checked it out)

catswilleatyou · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 12:11 am

Rick Derris Wrote:

catswilleatyou Wrote:

ya'll kill me for this but this is first time i've ever listened to these ... i'm absolutely loving 12x5.

my stones knowledge is only exile on main st and sticky fingers. anytime i went deeper than that nothing really got to me. but these first two have been great IMHO. go thread!

Man, I'm jealous. I wish I could discover all these records again. I didn't really dig into those early records until late college. You should definitely check out "Out of Our Heads", "Aftermath", and "Beggar's Banquet" when we get to them. Beggars is the one that made me really look at the Stones in a light outside of Hot Rocks.

I'm pumped about it this new discovery too. Today I was walking around the ballpark checking with this through my headphones and it was the perfect soundtrack. Too bad I can't drink at work.

DumpJack · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 8:27 am

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Although their third American album was patched together (in the usual British Invasion tradition) from a variety of sources, it's their best early R&B-oriented effort. Most of the Stones' early albums suffer from three or four very weak cuts; Now! is almost uniformly strong start-to-finish, the emphasis on some of their blackest material. The covers of "Down Home Girl," Bo Diddley's vibrating "Mona," Otis Redding's "Pain in My Heart," and Barbara Lynn's "Oh Baby" are all among the group's best R&B interpretations. The best gem is "Little Red Rooster," a pure blues with wonderful slide guitar from Brian Jones (and a number one single in Britain, although it was only an album track in the U.S.). As songwriters, Jagger and Richards are still struggling, but they come up with one of their first winners (and an American Top 20 hit) with the yearning, soulful "Heart of Stone."

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catswilleatyou · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 1:16 pm

I wish this Now! started on Down Home Girl instead.
I'm still diggin it though.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 1:57 pm

Little Red Rooster, along with Dancing in the Streets is the song all honkies influenced by blues and soul from this era felt compelled to sing. If they excised both from the collective Jungian consciousness, no matter what the unintended effects, I would be a happy man. I fucking LOATHE that song, and what it does to put a damper on every single set it appears in.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Rick Derris Wrote:

Also, when did Fogerty become annoying?

The day he was born. Can't stand his voice. I'm sure I'd love CCR with just about any other singer which makes me hate him even more.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 2:22 pm

billy g Wrote:

I'm sure I'd love CCR with just about any other singer which makes me hate him even more.

Insanity.

catswilleatyou · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 2:28 pm

Senator Lou Garra Wrote:

Little Red Rooster, along with Dancing in the Streets is the song all honkies influenced by blues and soul from this era felt compelled to sing. If they excised both from the collective Jungian consciousness, no matter what the unintended effects, I would be a happy man. I fucking LOATHE that song, and what it does to put a damper on every single set it appears in.

shewilleatyou agrees with you on this one. hates every version of little red rooster. even the sam cooke one, and she's super gay for sam cooke.

Rick Derris · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 3:47 pm

Senator Lou Garra Wrote:

Little Red Rooster, along with Dancing in the Streets is the song all honkies influenced by blues and soul from this era felt compelled to sing. If they excised both from the collective Jungian consciousness, no matter what the unintended effects, I would be a happy man. I fucking LOATHE that song, and what it does to put a damper on every single set it appears in.

Not for nothing but if I'd been listening to the Dead cover it a couple dozen times I'd probably feel the same way.

As it is, this studio cover is aces in my opinion. They keep it super simple and Brian Jones adds some tasteful slide work that keeps it from being run of the mill.

I won't argue for Dancing in the Streets.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 3:51 pm

Rick Derris Wrote:

Senator Lou Garra Wrote:

Little Red Rooster, along with Dancing in the Streets is the song all honkies influenced by blues and soul from this era felt compelled to sing. If they excised both from the collective Jungian consciousness, no matter what the unintended effects, I would be a happy man. I fucking LOATHE that song, and what it does to put a damper on every single set it appears in.

Not for nothing but if I'd been listening to the Dead cover it a couple dozen times I'd probably feel the same way.

The JAMC version of "Little Red Rooster" is fairly awesome, btw.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 4:33 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

Rick Derris Wrote:

Senator Lou Garra Wrote:

Little Red Rooster, along with Dancing in the Streets is the song all honkies influenced by blues and soul from this era felt compelled to sing. If they excised both from the collective Jungian consciousness, no matter what the unintended effects, I would be a happy man. I fucking LOATHE that song, and what it does to put a damper on every single set it appears in.

Not for nothing but if I'd been listening to the Dead cover it a couple dozen times I'd probably feel the same way.

The JAMC version of "Little Red Rooster" is fairly awesome, btw.

I've never heard the JAMC, but the Stones cover this on both Love You Live and Flashpoint, and on both it is absolute DOGSHIT!

catswilleatyou · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 6:10 pm

i've got to gets Now! on vinyl now. soooo good.

DumpJack · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 8:11 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

billy g Wrote:

I'm sure I'd love CCR with just about any other singer which makes me hate him even more.

Insanity.

In it's purest form, it is usually very disturbing.

Thee Incident · **Posted:** Fri May 28, 2010 10:43 pm

This might wind up behind the tenner thread as my favorite in the history of Obner. Well done, DJ.

tentoze · **Posted:** Sat May 29, 2010 1:00 am

Much respect for being able to last through this from one end to the other. For me, these very early things are saved, and only just barely, by Jones and maybe, just maybe Watts.

FT · **Posted:** Sat May 29, 2010 1:50 pm

discostu Wrote:

Isn't this a Stones thread? Let's keep it ROLLING

i will ask you to immediately cease and desist

harry · **Posted:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:08 am

Mona, Time is on My Side, Heart of Stone... while the kid-worship blues guitar wanna-be authenticity of 12 x 5 and Now made it hold a place with the east LA bad boys I grew up with for the next several years (It's All Over Now cranking in the GTO's reverb cruising down Whittier), it was Mick's voice on those songs that made them the thinking adolescent's alternative to the Beatles. Late at night with a transister radio the size of a shoe box to the ear... and you'll nevah break, nevah break, nevah break...

And yeah, Little Red Rooster was always vaguely disappointing and annoying.

Gentlemen, careful with this music. It filled the empty heart of a teenager and see what happened to me.

catswilleatyou · **Posted:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:29 pm

I went used vinyl shopping yesterday and was hoping to pick up NOW!... no luck.
I took a gamble and purchased Made in the Shade for $4.00.
There's like two good songs on this.

discostu · **Posted:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:32 pm

FT Wrote:

discostu Wrote:

Isn't this a Stones thread? Let's keep it ROLLING

i will ask you to immediately cease and desist

That was a Bob Bland play-on-words "cover" by Stuart Ransom Walker & the Rim Shots

harry Wrote:

Gentlemen, careful with this [DEVIL] music. It filled the empty heart of a teenager and see what happened to me.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 1:58 pm

catswilleatyou Wrote:

I took a gamble and purchased Made in the Shade for $4.00.
There's like two good songs on this.

Brown Sugar
Tumbling Dice
Happy
Dance Little Sister
Wild Horses
Angie
Bitch
It's Only Rock 'n Roll (But I Like It)
Doo Doo Doo Doo Doo (Heartbreaker)
Rip This Joint

I'll give you "Dance Little Sister" and "Angie", but two good songs? C'mon.

Rick Derris · **Posted:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 2:11 pm

I get your point Rads but he's also just discovering those 60's albums. I didn't get an appreciation for later stuff until I'd listened to all that goodness.

Hearing this before hearing all of those songs in their album context is like handing someone Hot Rocks and saying this is what the Stones were all about.

But yeah, I could throw Made In the Shade on at a BBQ and be happy.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

I just don't agree with Derris at all on this. Good songs stand on their own and Made in the Shade is full of them. I like everything on that album even Angie and Dance Little Sister Dance.

Maybe in today's world of leaks, filesharing and dem blogs, you can take the view of wanting to hear everything by the Stones in order to fully appreciate their growth as a band but you couldn't as a kid in the 70's. I think it took me two months of allowances supplemented with "income" from lying to my mom about how much my school lunch cost to be able to afford Hot Rocks on Vinyl. It was a great introduction to the Stones and I imagine was how a lot of kids my era became fans. Similarly, Decade was my introduction to Neil Young and Kinks Kronikles was my introduction to the Kinks. You had to go for the bang for the buck back then.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Tue Jun 01, 2010 3:22 pm

Yeah I had Hot Rocks for years before I finally started buying Stones albums. I'm not - and I never have been - a big Stones fan, but comps like Hot Rocks and Made in the Shade are undeniably packed full of great songs.

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