I've seen more fights started by mouthy Auburn fans then all other SEC teams that UGA plays combined. I'm pretty sure it's a rivalry that everybody takes seriously, (i guess) your folk notwithstanding.

Probable BCS Matchups:

• BCS Championship Game: Oregon vs. Auburn
• Rose: Wisconsin vs. TCU
• Sugar: Arkansas vs. Ohio State
• Orange: Virginia Tech/Florida State winner vs. Stanford
• Fiesta: Nebraska/Oklahoma winner vs. UConn.

A lot could change obviously if South Carolina knocks off Auburn.

You could just chalk that up to Auburn having a lot of belligerent redneck fans.

I just know that from growing up in Alabama, the Iron Bowl rivalry always seemed like the only one that really mattered to fans of either team aside from, you know, actual shots at division, conference, or national championships. Growing up it always seemed like Florida and LSU were the other teams to beat.

But that could just be me and my folk, I guess.

There's a different kind of Auburn fan?

I'll chalk it up to the geographical proximity, close scores and overall record, and occasional less than good natured verbal jabs between the two fanbases, thanks.

Wiki on The Deep South's Oldest Rivalry" for your reading pleasure

I'm aware of the history of the rivalry and the evenness of the record, thanks.

Well then stop acting like a dumbfuck and pretending it's not a rivalry.

Yeah, it's the real fucking deal. Especially since Auburn's standards have not risen along with UGAs since the advent of HOPE, thus more Georgia folk are attending The Cow College.

NU &/or OU v. UConn will be complete garbage.

Ditto Stanford v. ACC winner.

& Arkansas v. THE Ohio State U.

Wisconsin-TCU & Oregon-Auburn will be the tits, though.

But, really, I'm hoping the Ol' Ball Coach works his magic, one more time. In which case: Oregon-TCU or Wisconsin-Oregon?

Georgia had beaten Auburn 4 years in a row prior to this year. I PROMISE you Auburn people care about this rivalry and wanted this one bad this year. It isn't the Iron Bowl and it's always been a more gentlemanly or sibling rivalry but it's still a natural rivalry. Not only by geography but in the last 30 year it's probably decided the SEC Champ (prior to the Championship game) or knocked the other out of contention at least a dozen times. More times than not there is something riding on it.

As for what there is to loathe, I really don't need anything other than "because they're Auburn". But, for me, I think there is a fine line between being aggressive and being dirty. If I'm an Auburn fan, I'm sure they find Nick Fairley and the Auburn D as being aggressive and love it but if I'm not I find it being dirty. I also think Gene Chizik encourages it.

Also, the Auburn fanbases complete defiance that Cam Newton could have possibly done ANYTHNG wrong and that the whole thing is just some sort of media witchhunt. He's the clear leader for the Heisman trophy this year and he hasn't been available to the media without his attorney present since the story broke. It is pretty sad.

I agree with your assessment on those games, but isn't that pretty typical for these BCS games and bowl games in general?

As for MNC game if Auburn loses, I'm gonna go with TCU over Wisconsin (sorry Wiscobners)...If the B10 had a title game and the Wisky won it, they'd be in without a doubt but they don't, so, no.

Also, late breaking news: TCU to join the Big East in '12-'13. (can they go ahead and take UConn's automatic bid this year?)

I'm happy with Oregon losing to either but would prefer TCU. I appreciate why Wisconsin has run it up recently, but it's really put me off them. Even if the Badgers won a title game, I still think TCU should get the shot.

Interesting about the Big East thing as well. The plot thickens.

Also, if Auburn loses a close game, their resume (5 wins against the Top 22 vs. 1 for TCU and 2 for Wisonsin) could would should keep them in the title game.

Well I see it more as the opposition (be that Bama fans, other competing SEC team fans like UGA or South Carolina, or whoever else has a vested interest in Auburn failing) insisting that he IS GUILTY even though it's all still just allegations at this point. I've seen my fair share of Auburn fans saying "let's just wait and see" and plenty of Bama fans and others saying that they don't need to wait to see any evidence or any hard facts in order to determine their verdict.

A lot of people want Auburn to go down big time, and I've seen all sorts of rumors from anonymous people who know people who are "in the know" claiming that there's a "slush fund" that Auburn players have accessed through ATM cards and that the school is under a federal investigation. It all just stems from one long blog/forum post, but tons of people have already latched onto it as truth because they want it to be true. It may be, but it very well not be. The fact that no one really knows at this point hasn't really stopped a lot of people from deciding that Auburn and Cam Newton are guilty on all counts.

Anyway, all this crap is one of the many layers of bullshit that have helped keep me away from most spectator sports for the past ten years. It's a big dirty business, especially on the college level and especially in the South and it really detracts from enjoying the game. And it's not even so much that I'm trying to make some moral judgment or take some moral high ground. The main reasons I don't really watch sports anymore are just that I don't have the time to really keep track of all the details and that I have other interests. So yeah, I should probably have stayed out of this thread, but Auburn having an undefeated season means that I end up hearing about it from all sort of places and get roped into sort of paying attention, resulting in my getting pulled into all this stuff.

See I'm on the other end. I think this stuff is all part of the fabric of college football. SEC fans can take anything and make it the Mount Everest of scandals. Also, the SEC does scandal better than anyone. Remember the thing with former Alabama coach Mike Price who supposedly was in a strip club in Pensacola with a stripper riding him saying "ROLL TIDE!" and him responding "IT'S ROLLING BABY!". Doesn't matter that there is zero proof that was actually said, it's now the stuff of legend. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

This stuff is as ingrained in southern culture as sweet tea.

But, I get what you're saying and do acknowledge that in the information age, things are ramped up even further not to mention that college football now brings in BILLIONS every year while being an "amateur sport". It's ripe for trouble to pop up at anytime.

Also, I'm fully aware that 9 times out of 10 sports will let me down. Either by my team sucking, or some scandal, or just douchebaggery in general by some self-entitled spoiled player.

But, I continue to follow it for that one time when it becomes transcendent. Those are the moments I remember.

Actually, there's a decent amount of evidence piling up against Newton. It's probably more substantial than what "convicted" Reggie Bush in that NCAA investigation.

Also, if you look at how North Carolina handled their unsubstantiated (at the time) allegations in the beginning of this season compared to Auburn, then you can see why so many people are pretty outraged at Auburn's fuck you attitude about this. Also, Auburn's history in this kind of stuff is pretty outrageous even by SEC standards.

And, I'd also add that the FBI wouldn't get involved if this was a run of the mill pay for play scheme. Lowder Inc. has been doing shady shit for years, documented shady shit.

Auburn vs UGA recruiting is a big rivalry as well.

The Bowl folks should get some creativity. Like, if I'm Music Shitty Bowl director, why not grab UGA and UT in a rematch? The fanbases hate each other and would like nothing more than to be the cause of the other to have a losing season. Nashvegar is close for both. Rich rednecks would love to come see a game and The Opry and Dollywood. I'd be much more inclined to go to this game than a game v. Western Michigan or what have you.

It's not just that the BCS gets moribund matchups, it's that the whole system kind of fucking sucks. They need a re-boot or the football equivalent of a late career Rick Rubin or Jack White produced album IMO.

Hell, even straight-up #3 vs. #4, #5 vs. #6 all the way down would be more interesting. Then there's always the playoff idea. *slaps wrist*

TCU is going to the Big East in 2011/12.

Pretty pumped to see them take on WVU.

Speaking of WVU, there's talk about them sneaking into the BCS by way of Orange if VT plays. Big rivalry that was extinguished when VT left for ACC.

Another example of BCS bowl tie-ins and football money driving everything. I don't blame them one bit for doing it under this current (and, IMO, broken,) system but geographically it makes no sense and no sense with regards to the other sports programs at TCU. Or other Big East schools for that matter.

Schools will continue to scramble to get in on the money, realign conferences, and generally make the NCAA look like lame ducks until this system goes the way of the dodo.

big 12 is fucking retarded for not bringing tcu into the fold

texas wouldn't allow it, because they don't want it proven on the field that the longhorns are no longer the best team in the state (as if this year's respective seasons aren't proof enough)...actually, they are only fourth-best in the state, if that

What're you saying? TCU, Baylor, Houston... UT?

What about Rice, &/or the Mike Price-led UTEP Miners?

1. TCU
2. A&M
3. Baylor
4. Insert mediocre team here

More than a few BCS projections are saying that Stanford will stay West and play in the Fiesta, and the Orange will take UCONN/West Virginia to play the ACC winner, since the Cardinal aren't known to travel well to bowl games.
I've also heard that should Nebraska lose on Saturday, they might return to San Diego to play Boise State in the Holiday Bowl, since the Pac-10 might fail to fill their bowl allotment. The Cotton and Alamo have already passed on the Huskers for various reasons, and Nebraska doesn't really want to play Michigan in the Insight, since they will be Conference foes next season.