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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:18 pm 
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So, who wants to wager that this 22 year old loser with a record was actually targeting Federal Judge John Roll who was killed?

It does appear she is going to live. Pima Co officials say they secured certainn other pubic officials, but didn't say who.

As I said, this will be pretty interesting to see what really went down.


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Vic Da Baron LooGAR Wrote:
So, who wants to wager that this 22 year old loser with a record was actually targeting Federal Judge John Roll who was killed?

It does appear she is going to live. Pima Co officials say they secured certainn other pubic officials, but didn't say who.

As I said, this will be pretty interesting to see what really went down.
i don't think he was targetting anyone in particular, other than "politicians". i doubt he knew who Roll was.


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 6:46 pm 
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harry Wrote:
Vic Da Baron LooGAR Wrote:
So, who wants to wager that this 22 year old loser with a record was actually targeting Federal Judge John Roll who was killed?

It does appear she is going to live. Pima Co officials say they secured certainn other pubic officials, but didn't say who.

As I said, this will be pretty interesting to see what really went down.


Jered Laughner's Myspace Page ..." illiterate Mexicans..."

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hoo boy... adds a whole pile of crazy into this narrative

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Vic Da Baron LooGAR Wrote:
So, who wants to wager that this 22 year old loser with a record was actually targeting Federal Judge John Roll who was killed?

It does appear she is going to live. Pima Co officials say they secured certainn other pubic officials, but didn't say who.

As I said, this will be pretty interesting to see what really went down.
i don't think he was targetting anyone in particular, other than "politicians". i doubt he knew who Roll was.


i dunno, roll is pretty well known apparently

somehow the right will paint this as a leftist manchurian candidate thingy


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PostPosted: Sat Jan 08, 2011 8:17 pm 
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Federal Judge John Roll was killed during a shooting in Arizona that also involved an attack on U.S. Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

U.S. Marshal for Arizona David Gonzales confirmed to the Associated Press that the U.S. District Judge had died. He offered no other details on the shooting.

Arizona Central talked to Gonzales in 2009 after Roll allowed a $32 million civil-rights lawsuit to proceed against a local rancher. The case was filed by illegal immigrants and drew the ire of local talk radio hosts, who "spurred audiences into making threats."

In one afternoon, Roll logged more than 200 phone calls. Callers threatened the judge and his family. They posted personal information about Roll online.

"They said, 'We should kill him. He should be dead,' " Gonzales said.

Both Roll and his wife were given a U.S. Marshals Service protection detail at the time. Roll called the month-long protection experience "unnerving and invasive." According to Arizona Central, authorities identified four men believed to be responsible for the threats, but Roll declined to press charges at the recommendation of the Marshals Service.

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Also, it's looking like Gifford's is gonna make it.

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Sometimes it helps to look past your own personal beliefs and biases and look to the true motive or thought of people. I may or may not have to do that for a living. Ol Gar knows a thing or two m

I think Crack's assessment may ultimately prove correct, but I have a feeling he knows as much about Roll as he does Giffords, which may be nothing.

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so much ranting about illiteracy, then he says "this message wouldn't have happen"

um, the word is "happenED," captain literate

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maybe he was enraged that he could only make crappy videos with shittier music


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One of the dead is a 9 year old child. Sick, just sick.


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jesus what a fuck up semi-intellectual...this guy probably too one logic course online and now says shit like "conscience-dreaming" (assuming he meant conscious?) and "read the United States of Americs's Constitution to apprehend all of the current treasonous laws"


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listed his favorite books as "Animal Farm, Brave New World, The Wizard Of OZ, Aesop Fables, The Odyssey, Alice Adventures Into Wonderland, Fahrenheit 451, Peter Pan, To Kill A Mockingbird, We The Living, Phantom Toll Booth, One Flew Over The Cuckoo’s Nest, Pulp,Through The Looking Glass, The Communist Manifesto, Siddhartha, The Old Man And The Sea, Gulliver’s Travels, Mein Kampf, The Republic, and Meno",


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on the bright side, i was led to this

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JANUARY 6--A Minnesota man is facing felony charges after police discovered that he had retrofitted a vibrator, turning the sex toy into a homemade explosive device.

According to a criminal complaint, Terry Allen Lester, 37, placed “gun powder, BB shot, and buck shot from shotgun shells” into the modified device, which had “black and red wires that connected to a trigger with a battery port,” according to a statement of probable cause filed yesterday in Waseca District Court.

Police were alerted to the black vibrator by a woman with whom Lester had been living until last week. The device was reportedly included in belongings Lester left behind in the woman’s apartment. Lester, pictured in the mug shot at right, also left behind tools, cords, cables, and the remains of a drill that was disassembled “to use the parts for the vibrator bomb.”

Lester, whose rap sheet includes domestic assault and drunk driving busts, allegedly was planning on giving the vibrator as a Christmas gift to one of three former girlfriends, with whom he had relationships that “ended badly.” The woman who contacted police said Lester told her that “when the device was inserted into the female he would pull the trigger and it would blow them up.”

Waseca Police Department officers also found two other sex toys (a pink vibrator had “Merry X-mas Bitch” written on it in black ink) among Lester’s belongings. After X-raying the black vibrator, bomb squad technicians “dismantled” the device and removed the gunpowder and projectiles.


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One of the dead is a 9 year old child. Sick, just sick.


That girl was born on September 11, 2001. NOT MAKING THIS UP: http://globalgrind.com/channel/news/content/1899875/she-has-a-name-christina-taylor-greene-9-yr-old-killed-in-tucson-massacre-born-on-91101-photos/

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AZ now goes on my list of states that we should probably give back.

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AZ now goes on my list of states that we should probably give back.


Now?

The worst thing about this whole sad episode is that you could see it coming. Surprised it took this long, to be honest.


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Damn, reading about her in this Post profile, this lady was going to be a Senator or Governor or even more.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co ... 1010802810

And the little girl went to the event to learn, because she had just been elected to the student council. You can't make this shit up.

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the little girl is Dallas Green's granddaughter, the manger that won the Phillies their first World Series and currently a scout for the Dodgers. Fuck.

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Fuck this. Your country's been tolerating and even abetting all this American Taliban rhetoric from the likes of Palin, O'Reilly, the Tea Party, the cocksucking Republicans, and then when it actually happens OH WE ALL SHOCKED.



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I have no idea how it's fucking possible that we know so little about this kid's motives, despite his "final thoughts" or whatever. Maybe it was all the missing accomplice's idea.

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the little girl is Dallas Green's granddaughter, the manger that won the Phillies their first World Series and currently a scout for the Dodgers. Fuck.



I just read that a few minutes ago. crazy.

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I have no idea how it's fucking possible that we know so little about this kid's motives, despite his "final thoughts" or whatever. Maybe it was all the missing accomplice's idea.

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the little girl is Dallas Green's granddaughter, the manger that won the Phillies their first World Series and currently a scout for the Dodgers. Fuck.



I just read that a few minutes ago. crazy.


Well he ain't talking, appears to have acted alone and the stuff he did put out there was so scatterbrained you can't make heads or tails of it.

There's some revealing stuff they found in his safe at his parents' house, detailed toward the middle of this story.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/CRIME/01/09/ari ... tml?hpt=T1

This stuff takes time to get worked out. He's been charged. Shit will run its course. Take a pill.

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Jason Linkins, as usual, sheds a weird crazy light of sanity on this:

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You know, there really is almost never bright and shining line of criminal culpability between a crime like this and something someone says in a speech or puts on a website. Obviously, if you are on the radio everyday, saying things like, "The Tutsis are cockroaches and should be attacked with machetes and killed by the thousands, immediately," it's a lot less murky than that time you used a gunsight-looking thing on a poster or talked about the tree of liberty needing the blood of patriots every once in a while.

There are also a lot of very crazy people in the world, who wouldn't really need a set of explicit instructions to carry out something crazy. And that a crazy person might gravitate toward one inspiration over another is almost a random event. It's unlikely that anyone would murder another person over my liveblog of "White Christmas," but it's possible.

Here's the thing: if someone came along and shot up a Starbucks and later said that they did it because of my liveblog of White Christmas, no one would really be pointing fingers at me. People would probably feel bad. And they'd say, "Well, that person is crazy, there's nothing you could have done." And, hell yes, I would fight any attempt to make me take criminal responsibility. But on some level, in some way, I would still have to take moral responsibility for what happened, because that's what you do if you acknowledge that there is a moral authority in the universe, judging you on the basis of how you behave in this world, forcing you to acknowledge that your actions have unintended effects on this universe.

In a world where many people literally believe that God is watching us, everytime we masturbate, and marking it against us, it's really a wonder that people do not behave better! I mean, if you literally believe that people will go to hell for masturbating, why would you take even the remotest chance that you might do something wrong?

So look! Are you running a political campaign and are having trouble conveying toughness or resoluteness or moxie or courage without talking about guns? Please, please, call me or email me. I will help you, regardless of your political belief, and I will do it for free. I have a thesaurus and I read a lot, and I assure you, there are alternatives that convey what you want to say that are just as awesome and inspiring as any you'd encounter.

Let me help you. I can help you! The next time you feel like you have to say, "Don't Retreat, Reload!" just contact me and I will help you figure out -- actually, wait: on that one, why couldn't you just stop at "Don't Retreat?" JUST STOP THERE, OKAY? JESUS. THAT'S A FREEBIE.

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