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Never heard this Richard & Linda Thompson album.

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Never heard this Richard & Linda Thompson album.


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Innovative, avant-garde big band, a dense forward thinking ellington

Doc & Merle Watson - Two Days in November
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Doc Watson is an American treasure

(Along with Be Bop Deluxe, here is another guilty pleasure pick)
Frank Sintra - The Main Event
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This is not the "voice" performing here, but the legend. Maybe not a classic, but enjoyable & upbeat.

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Never heard this Richard & Linda Thompson album.


Great stuff.

It's wonderful.

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No seriously, some music sounds better now than then.

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his arrangements are really outstanding in the early days. This was the very original I was going to post and attempt to write a really long-winded "in defense of" review - but I don't need to. Not a great album, but definitely some great moments.

I don't know how I didn't realize it until like the middle of last year harry, but you and I seem to have a lot of overlap in our taste.

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Thread needs more jazz.



Frank Foster - The Loud Minority

Frank Foster is probably best known for his work as a tenor sax player in Count Basie's Orchestra. He also had some great work though as a band leader including this 1974 spiritual jazz effort.

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One of the most amazing albums ever from Frank Foster – a totally righteous set that's light years ahead of his earlier work with the Basie Band! The format here is right up there with the best on Strata East at the time – a large-group session that's filled with some of the hippest players of the early 70s – all coming together with a joyous, spiritual sense of power! Foster's in the lead on tenor and soprano sax, but other players include Cecil Bridgewater and Hannibal Marvin Peterson on trumpets, Harold Mabern on keyboards, Elvin Jones on drums, Dick Griffin on trombone, Stanley Clarke on bass, Airto on percussion, and even Dee Dee Bridgewater on vocals! Tracks are all quite long and flowing – spiritual expressions of jazz that rival the greatness of anything recorded for Impulse – and titles include "The Loud Minority", "Requiem For Dusty", "JP's Thing", and "EW – Beautiful People".


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The early '70s were rife with political and racial conflicts, indicative of the pressures surrounding the scandal of Watergate and Richard Nixon, the assassination of Martin Luther King, Jr., and the painful continuation of the Vietnam War. As explosive as the times were, Frank Foster's The Loud Minority reflected all of those mounting tensions while remaining hopeful in a self-determining way that gave rise to the "I'm Black and I'm Proud" sentiment. Foster assembled a giant of a big band featuring dual instrumentation all around, including keyboards, basses, and drummers to power a horn section chock-full of the best mainstream jazz and progressive players of the day. Because funk-fusion was flowering, electrified elements of guitar and Fender Rhodes piano identify the music with the times, while vocalist Dee Dee Bridgewater, never known as a protest singer, reads powerful poetry and screams freedom at the top of her lungs, inspired by a band that knows no bounds or limits, at its core a mighty modern jazz orchestra removed from Foster's work with the Count Basie band. "J.P's Thing" provides the ultimate in memorable melodic invention, vibrant layers of call and response, and the kind of shout-out energy every jazz fan craves. It's a driving, funky number, very much representative of the time period, full of hope and spirit, with low-end bass clarinets firing off the rest of the horns -- a great track! "Requiem for Dusty" is for a late, favored German Shepherd, a sad ballad with Foster on his rarely played alto sax and Stanley Clarke's arco acoustic bass solo with drama confined to smaller spaces, almost Greek epic, elegiac for sure. New York DJ Ed Williams is paid tribute to in "E.W. -- Beautiful People," a free and light Latin piece with Foster's soprano sax wailing in a darkly dramatic hue, with fine solos from acoustic pianist Harold Mabern and trumpeter Charles McGee. The title track is a composition with Bridgewater identifying icons of change and liberation from oppression, with statements that the Loud Minority is not a nonprofit, and the profit is in the victory "as opposed to you know whooooooooo." A united front of furious funk and churning rhythms via Airto, Elvin Jones, Richard Pratt, and Omar Clay with the Rhodes of Jan Hammer and electric guitar of Earl Dunbar under Foster's spirited horn chart makes this one leap out of the speakers.


Loud Minority indeed.

RIYL: Archie Shepp's early 70's work, Pharoah Sanders, Art Ensemble of Chicago, etc.

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Thread needs less jazz

Mott the Hoople - The Hoople


Only two years removed from "All The Young Dudes", Mott the Hoople were already tired of the whole glam thing. Mick Ralphs had left to form Bad Company, and his replacement was Luther Grosvenor (aka Ariel Bender) from Spooky Tooth, whose proto-Eddie Van Halen virtuosity gave the songs a harder edge. Ian Hunter taps into his Jerry Lee fixation on opener "Golden Age of Rock 'n' Roll" and offers two over-the-top glam set-pieces in "Through the Looking Glass" and "Marionette" (the latter, it should be noted, is often blamed for giving Queen the idea for "Bohemian Rhapsody"). This album also holds a couple of my personal faves, "Pearl 'n' Roy (England)", with Roxy Music's Andy MacKay on sax, and the Dylan-gone-glam "Alice".

This link is for the remaster that includes a number of bonus tracks, including "Lounge Lizard" and "Saturday Gigs", both tracks from Mick Ronsons's brief tenure in the band. "Saturday Gigs" ends with Hunter singing "goodbye" over and over, apparently to the puzzlement of the rest of the band members. After this they put out the awesome Mott Live album (also in '74), and then they were done.

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PopTodd Wrote:
tentoze Wrote:
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Never heard this Richard & Linda Thompson album.


Great stuff.

It's wonderful.


This is a top-5 record record for me. I shied away from bringing it up in this thread because like KISS, GP, and a bunch others, I thought most people had heard it. Surprised a bunch haven't heard it here. You guys are in for a treat. I still need to read the 33rpm book on this.

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Thread needs more jazz.



Yeah, I'm not going to post any for real, but here are some jazz records I have from 74:

Herbie Hancock - Dedication
John Betsch Society - Earth Blossom
Gil Evans Orchestra - Plays Hendrix
Carlos Santana & Alice Coltrane - Illuminations
Sadao Watanabe - Mbali Africa
Merl Saunders - S/T
Stanley Cowell - Musa Ancestral Streams
Monk Montgomery - Reality
Aura Urziceanu - Seara De Jazz Cu Aura
Cecil Taylor - Spring of Two Blue-J's
Herbie Hancock - Thrust
Catalyst - Unity
Mary Lou Williams - Zoning

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Ducks Deluxe - Ducks Deluxe

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If there was any doubt that something as regressive and unholy as punk was coming down the pike, Ducks Deluxe were there for the exclamation point. Hardened by years in the pubs, the Ducks played to a crowd that only wanted to search and destroy. The band consisted of Sean Tyla, Martin Belmont (later of the Rumour), and Nick Garvey (later of the Motors), and this debut album may be the epitome of the entire pub rock genre.

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The Isley Brothers - Live It Up

I originally found Ronald Isley through R. Kelly's "Down Low" videos in the mid-90s. As Mr. Big, I didn't even have to hear his voice, I just knew that he was the man. Of course, even in my young days, it didn't take long for me to figure out that I knew about a dozen different Isley Brothers songs that are certified classics, songs that are in most of our subconscious'.

After loving the classic albums for years, somewhere down the line I got "Live It Up" and mostly ignored it. If it came up on shuffle one day, awesome. I love Ron's voice and just about every Isley Brother song of the 60s and early 70s is fantastic. But then suddenly in the car one day, my girlfriend put on the title track in the car and I was blown away. I know I'd heard the song before, but somehow I had mostly ignored it. And here it was - "Live It Up" one of the most badass psychedelic soul/funk songs I've ever heard. In the 2 years since, it has become one of my single most listened to songs out of the hundred thousand plus I have. The song rules because it's got Ron in full funk mode. He sounds rough, shouting, the backbeat a workout. But the real shocker in this song (and the rest of the album) are Ernie Isley's guitar solos that sound like a fucking chainsaw cutting you in half. They're really intense guitar solos to have in music like this - I mean you could compare it to "Maggot Brain".

The rest of the album alternates between slower jams and the rave-up soul/funk hybrids and while the more upbeat songs are the greatest part of the album, the slow jams aren't bad. "Brown Eyed Girl" sounds like a Carly Simon song, but has the charisma and charm of Ron's voice. "Lover's Eve" almost has a standards feel to it. It wouldn't be hard to imagine Nina Simone doing a killer version of this song in a set. And "Hello, It's Me" (recently sampled by Jay-Z) is just vintage Isley Brothers, it's why they are legends.

I don't know if it's the best Isley's album (probably not) - the sequencing is a bit funny, but when it's on, it is among my very favorite soul music. Totally overlooked album and a real joy.



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Oh shit, while I'm on the glam thang...

David Werner - Whizz Kid

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David Werner was one of the very few glam artifacts from the American mid-west. Very much influenced by Ziggy Stardust and Mott the Hoople, meaning lots of fey introspection surrounded by pounding pianos and wild guitar leads.

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This album also holds a couple of my personal faves, "Pearl 'n' Roy (England)",

That makes sense.

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Gloria Scott - What Am I Gonna Do

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Born in Port Arthur, Texas, Gloria Scott moved to the west coast in her early-teens. Her aunt sang in a group with Sly Stone (then Sylvester Stewart), along with his sister Rose and cousin LaTanya. She first met Stone, three years her senior, during one of the group's rehearsals and then again a couple of years later at a high school dance. After hearing Gloria Scott sing "Gee Whiz" by Carla Thomas, Stone formed a group with Scott as the lead, "Gloria Scott and the Tonettes." The group disbanded after recording a few sides but the young singer continued performing around the San Francisco Bay area as a solo act. Charles Sullivan, the owner of the Fillmore Auditorium, helped Gloria Scott land her next gig -- as a backup singer for the Ike & Tina Turner Revue.


Less than a year later, Gloria Scott decided to continue pursuing a solo career while occasionally doing background spots. Before long, Barry White took an interest in Scott through the recommendation of her songwriting partner, Sonny Chaney. White signed the young singer to his Soul Unlimited Company and landed a deal with Neil Bogart's Casablanca Records. Released in the winter of 1974, What Am I Gonna Do marked the second release of Bogart's burgeoning record company.

A confluence of events, however, hindered the album's impact. First, Casablanca had yet to establish its identity in the marketplace. Because Scott's deal was with White's company directly -- not Casablanca -- she missed opportunities to build a rapport with executives at the label who might have lent more support. Second, Barry White had suddenly found phenomenal success with his own releases and did not accord Scott's career the same kind of attention. Casablanca released a non-album single, "Just As Long As We're Together," in early-1975. Though it made the R&B Top 20, a second album never materialized.

Scott's contract with Barry White stipulated a seven-year commitment, yet White only delivered one album for her. Frustrated by the lack of direction, Scott requested a release from her contract during the sixth year. While Barry White scored hit after hit with his own singles and the Love Unlimited Orchestra, Gloria Scott found herself abandoned.

Soul music lovers, however, did not abandon Gloria Scott. Vinyl copies of What Am I Gonna Do have traded hands upwards of $300 over the years and earned the singer a cult following in Europe.


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and break, i mean it's up to the rest of the people, but i think to keep the threads manageable no one should post more than 5 of their own, was aiming more towards 3

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Why try to micro-manage it to such a degree? It's not like Obner has thousands of contributors, plus give it a couple more entries and enthusiasm will drop to the usual less-than-zero. If I were you I'd let this ride while it lasts.


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Why try to micro-manage it to such a degree? It's not like Obner has thousands of contributors, plus give it a couple more entries and enthusiasm will drop to the usual less-than-zero. If I were you I'd let this ride while it lasts.


Yeah, it will also take me some time to digest a lot of the stuff I am snagging. I really like this idea, contra. But like other threads, it should sink or swim on it's own.

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I know how to search various sites for 1974 albums. I'd rather read about that one record from said year and why it is dear to you.

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I first heard about this record in 1995 after hearing Son Volt cover Mystify Me. It’s easy to see why Keith poached Ronnie from the Faces.

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I first heard about this record in 1995 after hearing Son Volt cover Mystify Me. It’s easy to see why Keith poached Ronnie from the Faces.

I was gonna put this one up too. It's pretty great, and with Jagger and Richards' involvement it's almost an unofficial Stones album. They should've stolen "I Can Feel The Fire" for It's Only Rock 'n' Roll. Actually, they should've stolen most of this album for It's Only Rock 'n' Roll.


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Yeah, I Can Feel The Fire is one of the best Stones songs from 73-77. Maybe the best.

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I know how to search various sites for 1974 albums. I'd rather read about that one record from said year and why it is dear to you.

Yeah, but most people aren't going to do this anyway. Plus, you might be able to search for '74 albums, but look at the evidence on hand: there are frequenters of a longstanding music board in 2010 who hadn't even heard I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight and Too Much Too Soon.


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I know how to search various sites for 1974 albums. I'd rather read about that one record from said year and why it is dear to you.

Yeah, but most people aren't going to do this anyway. Plus, you might be able to search for '74 albums, but look at the evidence on hand: there are frequenters of a longstanding music board in 2010 who hadn't even heard I Want To See The Bright Lights Tonight and Too Much Too Soon.


I have heard OF IWTSTBLT, but never sought it out. I suppose multiple listens, and or a relapse of GWEEG topking might turn it into a classic, but right now it's not really my cup of tea.

And, for some reason I don't have Too Much Too Soon on this HD....FAIL.

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Well give me a minute and i will find one that nobody has mentioned yet.

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