but i'm not ready to die yet.

1st, using baseball salaries as justification of reasonable salaries is getting a bit out there. You're not helping your arguement there.

2nd, the two issues, CEO pay and decent wages, are related. A 20 million CEO package could hire plenty of additional workers. It's not that large companies can't afford to hire more workers. They're just going to keep making bigger profits and keeping the money upstairs rather than inversting it back into workers because they frankly don't give a shit about the average American worker. They care about profit and their own fat wallets.

And, yes this marks a change in corporate culture. It's only been in the last few decades where you see headlines the likes of profits at an all-time high...thousands more to get the axe.

It's bullshit, and then the rich fuckers have the nerve to accept corporate welfare and tax breaks due to their "service to society" as they complain about giving food stamps to the un or under employed mother of five kids living in a shack in the ghetto.

Fuck 'em.

Eat the rich.

Now you're talking.

Class War.
I Hate The Rich.

I worked at a rural convenience/grocery store in the area that I live(d) in when I was in high school and college. These were the days before the card when you actually had booklets of food "coupons" to purchase with. At least once per day, usually more, this scene played out:

1) Carload pulls in.
2) Multiple children enter store, each carrying one or two $1 food coupons.
3) Each child purchases one piece of three cent bubble gum with his/her food coupon and leaves the store with the change.
4) Skank comes in and buys six-pack of cheap beer and pays with double handful of change.
5) Cashier clenches teeth and presses fingernails into palms.

I don't really understand the furore about welfare. I'm on the dole at the moment and every single penny of the money the Government gives me goes back out into the economy.

It's not like us dole scroungers are hoarding all the money in a biscuit tin under the bed. Any money I get I only have for about 10 seconds before it's on it's way to a gas company or the electricity or the credit card company or whatever.

In a down-at-heel high unemployment urban area like I live in there probably wouldn't be any business if there wasn't welfare money around.

biscuit tin

This thread reeks of smelly poor people.

not only is this (sort of) true, but it's even MORE true in the ghetto.

ghetto's don't have supermarkets where you can get fresh fruits and vegetables. They have corner stores where you can get shit food that is even more expensive than at a supermarket.

know what aldi is? really super cheap food store that sells primarily their own brands

anyway, i used to live by one of those corner shops and they used to sell aldi food at like 3 times the price aldi sold it for...and of course, there wasn't an actual grocery store within walking distance

yeah, if you live in the ghetto and don't have a car, you're really gonna get screwed on the price you pay for food

I thought at least with WIC and similar programs you could only buy approved goods at the store. Has this changed or was I clearly mistaken?

i live within walking distance of 4 supermarkets (two of which are asian) and a outdoor market.

it makes it so much easier to eat healthy and saves me soooooo much money having all those options.

So I hear Tupac's alive, guys.

Yep, WIC is all about health, actually. You get so much of each food group. But apparently welfare they just give you a card.

I could swear in my original post I said I wasn't against welfare et al.

Maybe what I was getting at is, what if she isn't cheating the system, what if it's just fucking easy to get food aid?

Yeah, but as you can see from the above posts; there is still a knee jerk reaction to cutting welfare benefits by some commie motherfuckers who wish to ignore that the federal Clinton/Gingrich "Welfare to Work" programs have actually worked in proportion to economic growth. The states (especially realatively poor states like Alabama) are largely either unprepared or unwilling to deal with their problems.

Years ago I worked in a fish market and saw many people with food stamps purchase lobster or swordfish at the time. It was sad and made me serve with a frown. I did not want to pass judgement as to how or why, but the huge amount of other produce that could have been bought was a loss as it seemed to me.