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Loog said it best on the FaceSpace:

"I ever get to the point where I need to buy or not by a chicken sandwich to prove that I am for or against something remind to re-examine my life, please."





personally, I find it peculiarly american that a protest over constitutional rights and whatnot involves defiantly eating fast food.

we're just....a strange country sometimes...

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 Post subject: Re: Chick Fil-A Thread: ¡Viva la Revolución! (and a small Coke)
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Mike Huckabee "broke" his "diet" for this cause.

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 Post subject: Re: Chick Fil-A Thread: ¡Viva la Revolución! (and a small Coke)
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That's pretty much what Conan said the other day as well.

Around here, the line to get into the local CFA was apparently a mile+ long. People lurve their CFA here. Protesters are planning on descending on Friday. The manager has said he'll give free sandwiches to anyone protesting.

Strangest thing lately = a facebook friend compiling a list of everyone who likes CFA's FB page who is their friend and de-friending those people. Sheesh.

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Are these long lines because of some sort of bigot solidarity or are they giving something away for free?

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no chick fil a anywhere near here, and i dont like it all that much anyway, so no ethical perdicament.

trying to figure out the politics of every business I give money to is simply not something I really have time for.

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Are these long lines because of some sort of bigot solidarity or are they giving something away for free?


solidarity convention.

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I will eat at Chick Fil-A in the future, but not today!

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trying to figure out the politics of every business I give money to is simply not something I really have time for.

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rogneeb Wrote:
trying to figure out the politics of every business I give money to is simply not something I really have time for.


Kind of a lazy way out of this particular case, though. Cathy came right out and told us where our theoretical chicken money is going, so we don't have to shake down everyone including your dry cleaners to somehow make the sandwich decision. Just because no one has time to do this for every case doesn't mean you can't react rationally to this case.

He did all the hard work for you.

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 Post subject: Re: Chick Fil-A Thread: ¡Viva la Revolución! (and a small Coke)
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That's not exactly true, and it's statements like that that make me want to plug my ears and ignore this whole thing. So much distorted noise surrounding this and so few meaningful facts.

I mean, not until just today did I really see what the organization they've supposedly given the most to, that Marriage & Family thing or whatever it's called, is really about. And it is seriously pretty messed up, I admit. I don't really like the fact that organizations like that even exist. Among other things, they're trying to combat the policies of private businesses who give rights/privileges to gay couples in their employ that are comparable to those given to married heterosexuals. (Although, on the other hand, they're trying to make it a little harder for people to get legally divorced, and I'm honestly not really opposed to that.)

Like previously I saw that CFA had donated money to Focus on the Family and some other right wing Christian groups that don't just exist to challenge to gay rights. (They also fight abortion and try to put prayer back in schools!) It didn't make the most convincing argument that CFA was spending "$2 million to fight against gay rights". That felt like a slightly distorted, slightly dishonest claim. It really hasn't always been so clearly laid out for everybody that it's more than just Cathy voicing his views and donating to right wing religious groups that also happen to have "anti-gay" views. Who exactly these organizations are and what exactly they do has never really been front and center in this.

And we're still not really seeing a balanced representation of what percentage of the money you forked over for that chicken sandwich went to support these dubious causes and what percentage went towards much more positive things. This is a company that rakes in something like $4 billion a year.

People desperately want to be in the right. They want to be part of a righteous cause. How exciting to be fighting for probably the last truly oppressed minority left in this country! Yes, of course, there are real, crucial, necessary battles to be fought here. But people on both sides are getting so stupendously carried away with their righteous zeal. It's just... well it's typical, I guess, but they way this is playing out in social networks with a fast food restaurant as the new "front line". I mean, I'm pretty sure I'm with Loogar on this.


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I've seen more repressed homosexuals in management positions at CFA over the years than...pretty much every other business combined. I'm convinced most of them go on to become Youth Ministers.

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If you care about equal protection under the law, FUCK this company and use your dollars to make an impact. Seriously. This is about the easiest way to say no to US-government sanctioned bigotry, which this asinine company supports. They will not have another dime of mine.


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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
toots Wrote:
rogneeb Wrote:
trying to figure out the politics of every business I give money to is simply not something I really have time for.


Kind of a lazy way out of this particular case, though. Cathy came right out and told us where our theoretical chicken money is going, so we don't have to shake down everyone including your dry cleaners to somehow make the sandwich decision. Just because no one has time to do this for every case doesn't mean you can't react rationally to this case.

He did all the hard work for you.


I'm not sure who Cathy is, let alone what he(?) found out for me. Anyone who is spending enough money at Chick-a-fil that their dollars spent there are making a difference in gay rights across the country probably has bigger problems to worry about.

<---- Never eaten a meal at Chick-a-fil and don't have any plans to though.


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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
toots Wrote:
rogneeb Wrote:
trying to figure out the politics of every business I give money to is simply not something I really have time for.


Kind of a lazy way out of this particular case, though. Cathy came right out and told us where our theoretical chicken money is going, so we don't have to shake down everyone including your dry cleaners to somehow make the sandwich decision. Just because no one has time to do this for every case doesn't mean you can't react rationally to this case.

He did all the hard work for you.


Yeah not the greatest application of my laziness theorem here. However I'd be a hypocrite if I came down too hard on CFA when I'm driving around in a gas guzzling car, living in a big carbon wasting house, and using a dozen apple products finely crafted by the bloody fingers of 13 year old Chinese girls.

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I quit spending money at Chick-Fil-A earlier this year, well before this last blow-up. I can't police every single dollar I spend or I'd go nuts, but I do what I can where I can. I also don't care if you are like my brother who isn't anti-homosexual anything but doesn't care where CFA spends their money or what they say. Mine is a personal choice, that's all.

But, for these people that are flaunting their CFA sandwiches on a day promoted by the Huckabees, Palins and Santorums* out there, in the name of free speech, well, that's just (1) assholish behavior and (2) the exact opposite of "standing up for what you believe in" when you contort this into a First Amendment issue. No one is advocating throwing Dan Cathy in prison for what he said. If you are against same-sex marriage, if you think Pray The Gay Away works, if you think homosexual activity should be outlawed and/or same-sex couples should be prohibited from being parents, then fucking own it.

Or, if it really is a coordinated defense of the First Amendment, then I expect each and one of these people to show up to support the Westboro Baptist Church protesting a soldier's funeral, waffle fries in hand. But we all know it's not.

*Nevermind the giant irony of religious politicians who openly campaign on censoring art, music and pornography stomping the ground in the name of the first amendment.

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Wait, Chick Fil-A has waffle fries?


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I quit spending money at Chick-Fil-A earlier this year, well before this last blow-up. I can't police every single dollar I spend or I'd go nuts, but I do what I can where I can. I also don't care if you are like my brother who isn't anti-homosexual anything but doesn't care where CFA spends their money or what they say. Mine is a personal choice, that's all.

But, for these people that are flaunting their CFA sandwiches on a day promoted by the Huckabees, Palins and Santorums* out there, in the name of free speech, well, that's just (1) assholish behavior and (2) the exact opposite of "standing up for what you believe in" when you contort this into a First Amendment issue. No one is advocating throwing Dan Cathy in prison for what he said. If you are against same-sex marriage, if you think Pray The Gay Away works, if you think homosexual activity should be outlawed and/or same-sex couples should be prohibited from being parents, then fucking own it.

Or, if it really is a coordinated defense of the First Amendment, then I expect each and one of these people to show up to support the Westboro Baptist Church protesting a soldier's funeral, waffle fries in hand. But we all know it's not.

*Nevermind the giant irony of religious politicians who openly campaign on censoring art, music and pornography stomping the ground in the name of the first amendment.


As usual, you say what I mean better than me. When I run for Emperor of Fail, you're gonna be a staff speech writer/blunt roller, amirite??

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Elvis Fu Wrote:
But, for these people that are flaunting their CFA sandwiches on a day promoted by the Huckabees, Palins and Santorums* out there, in the name of free speech, well, that's just (1) assholish behavior and (2) the exact opposite of "standing up for what you believe in" when you contort this into a First Amendment issue. No one is advocating throwing Dan Cathy in prison for what he said. If you are against same-sex marriage, if you think Pray The Gay Away works, if you think homosexual activity should be outlawed and/or same-sex couples should be prohibited from being parents, then fucking own it.

Or, if it really is a coordinated defense of the First Amendment, then I expect each and one of these people to show up to support the Westboro Baptist Church protesting a soldier's funeral, waffle fries in hand. But we all know it's not.

*Nevermind the giant irony of religious politicians who openly campaign on censoring art, music and pornography stomping the ground in the name of the first amendment.


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Also, morons on both sides shout about 1st amendment when it has no application to the situation at all. Annoys me so much.

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Scotland is going to make gay marriage legal.

It will mean that for the first time any man who lacks a facial knife scar and has read a book can now marry a woman.

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Also, morons on both sides shout about 1st amendment when it has no application to the situation at all. Annoys me so much.


This.

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The first thing I ever learned about Chick-Fil-A some 20 years earlier was that they were hard core Christians, then my friend mentioned the fries. So I've always associated them with their politics and am still a little surprised that this because so big so suddenly. I guess I'm happy people are taking up a cause I believe in, but It seems a little hollow. I'm deeply saddened by the opposite reaction of support with hour long waits for fast food.

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Didn't the first amendment come into play when Rahm Emanuel said he wouldn't allow them in Chicago? I can't find any non mouth breather websites that give a full account of what he said so who knows what he actually said.

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