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http://www.cnn.com/2006/POLITICS/06/22/ ... index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The House voted Thursday to cut taxes on inherited estates and relieve thousands of heirs from paying tax collectors beginning next decade.

Republicans temporarily set aside their ambition to abolish the tax. Instead, they voted to exempt from taxation individual estates up to $5 million and couple's estates up to $10 million, while also easing the impact on even richer families. The vote was 269-156.

The White House called the bill "a step in the right direction." The compromise measure now goes to the Senate.

President Bush and Republicans in Congress have long pressed to abolish the estate tax, contending it is unfair to tax businesses and farms left to the next generation.

"Americans are being taxed almost every moment of their lives. My goodness, when they are dead, do we have to tax them again?" said House Majority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio.

Democrats argued that it is more unfair to give millionaires a tax cut while denying thousands of poor workers a higher minimum wage.

Fuck Boehner.

democrats - more fodder, dudes.

And the astonishing trick of all this, is that the Republicans have convinced the middle and lower middle classes that elect them that somehow this is in their interest. The dismantling of the American middle class continues with the middle class' complicity. Fries with that? Pepsi OK?

americans have always had a strong belief in an extremely strong right to property - maybe there was some inroads for a few years there in the 1960s, but not much. i understand some of that feeling but there comes a point where it becomes ridiculous. especially when we are expanding government at the same time.

More than the 1960's.... the New Deal through the Reagan years... and these "all-American paradigms" of fair play, a helping hand, letting every one have a chance at property... was not seen as contradictory to private property. This is when the middle class was created. Johnson actually said in a state of the union "take from the haves and give to the havenots" and this was American as apple pie. The Reagan Revolution was to encourage the middle and lower classes that somehow these paradigms were antithetical to their own interests. Plenty of statistics showing the middle three quintiles of the American public have lost ground since then... and increasingly falling behind since 2001.

Anyone read the following:

What's the Matter With Kansas: How Conservatiives Won the Heart of Amerrica - Thomas Frank

Senator in 5 - 4 -3 -2 - ....

If i wasnt from northern Maine i would move to Canada, but screw that shit, i'll deal with this. Nice to know that my nonexistent estate would have less taxes taken out of it.

Canadians at the border are eating this administration, they're making a killing in the exchange rate lately. :

Yes. That guy nails it. It's so clear that people are voting opposite their benefit. Discouraging. That book was depressing.

Because we don't have any sort of debt or anything...

In terms of civics, I understand the 'death tax' but rationally, it makes little sense to me. Why should I pay taxes on money that has already been and will continually to be taxed annually anyway (who cares *who* is paying the taxes)? So that I can support a bloated government who fights wars at will? I think estate tax is ridiculous- regardless of the fact that sure it will benefit certain people more than others. That is besides the point to me.

...and yet they refuse to raise the minimum wage...

nah it all fits into the same system I think..

Big Business keeps more of its money for profits instead of wages,

and then when they die, their kids keep more of their money..

Since you're the only dude in my area, here's something you might be amused by. That dude who does the news middays and afternoons and whose voice is on all those crappy local commercials, that dude who says things like "Here's Richard Marx on THE LEADER, CHANNEL X RADIO," that dude's me. Phil Shaw-Neal, local radio whore.

Laugh now.

Yeah, I just saw this...That book is the biggest whiny piece of shit I have ever laid my eyes on. Wah, wah, wah...we went from Republican to more Republican.

Not one word is about a solution. NOT ONE WORD, and it is symptomatic of everything that is wrong with Democrats.

And yeah, Johnson said all that shit, Harry, and he started us down this road. For better or for worse, the right has changed the paradigm, framed the debate, whatever you want to call it.

You either have to change it back, or learn to play on that turf. What doesn't help is Sub Z-Grade pussies like Frank telling us how terrible his state is.

Fuck, he's from there, he should understand how to talk to the people "at the arbors and the forks of the creeks."

loog is right about that book.

i haven't read it because i know what it does...whine about how the Republicans are better at politics.

I can't stand listening to John Kerry at all because all he does is fucking whine and never offers a solution.

It's a shame that the only solutions this country has are offered by neocons.

while it's not exactly a sulution, NOT MAKING SHIT WORSE is a pretty good place to start.

We can't we just feed the poor people in this country with paris hilton's urine?

thanks for that link, cause it led me to this:



on the same site.

yeah, I horked something up laughing at that the other day.

I was gonna post this just to be obnoxious,



but then I found this, which is so much more hilarious than anything I could've found:

Note to f4df: So that I can support a government who makes public education possible, makes sure that a college is in the reach of everyone, who maintains roads, who perhaps could even address issues of hunger, poverty, lack of health care.

Note to Senator: I thought Frank certainly did imply a solution... to make clear to those voters who were voting against their interest, what would be best for them and their children economically and as far as quality of life is concerned. Republicans "whine" successufly about abortion and gay marriage while the middle class disappears. And it is ethical obligation of free citizens in democratice critical dialogue to struggle over the paradigms of our values and needs.

Hmmm.. considering that there is an estate tax NOW and those things are not part of the agenda makes me very skeptical that they would be simply by *keeping* the tax. If that is the case, write it into law.. i.e. estate tax income goes directly to such programs.

College is ridiculous, and it is in reach of everyone - that is the problem

haha that's you...nice

I sometimes wonder if libs think that a dollar left in the hands of a private citizen is going to get sewn into their mattress where it can't possibly do any good unless freed by taxes to be spent more wisely by govt bureaucrats.

If we want to solve "the hunger problem," why don't we just pass a law requiring anyone above a certain income or wealth level to have with them at all times a cooler full of delicious ham sandwichs which they are required to share with anyone who appears to be hungry. It couldn't be less effective than the tax & spend programs in effect or being pushed by libs.

Render unto Slash that which is Slash's; this includes all proceeds from taxes levied on cash inheritances. Thus, Congress has decreed it; thus, it shall be done.