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 Post subject: Who were the ultimate Rock n' Roll nihilists?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:14 pm 
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My list begins thusly:
Sid Vicious
Peter Laughner
Ian Curtis
Darby Crash
G.G. Allin (although his was of a comedic variety)

Just gettin' ideas for a mix.

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I've recently noticed that all the unfortunate events in the lives of blues singers all seem to rhyme... I think all these tragedies could be avoided with a good rhyming dictionary.

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Tracy Pew is the first that comes to mind. Him fucking that Rickenbacker at the end of that video is the embodiment of rock & roll nihilism.

Alex Harvey?

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 Post subject: Re: Who were the ultimate Rock n' Roll nihilists?
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PopTodd Wrote:
G.G. Allin (although his was of a comedic variety)



Uh... he wasn't kidding.


Iggy Pop? At least in early stage image/persona
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 Post subject: Re: Who were the ultimate Rock n' Roll nihilists?
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Drank Wrote:
PopTodd Wrote:
G.G. Allin (although his was of a comedic variety)



Uh... he wasn't kidding.


Maybe not. But it still played off as ridiculous.

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I've recently noticed that all the unfortunate events in the lives of blues singers all seem to rhyme... I think all these tragedies could be avoided with a good rhyming dictionary.

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herman brood
dead (nee Per Yngve Ohlin)
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Their music most often sucked, but Zack de la Rocha had a solid anarchist theoretical base to his rock and roll. Anarchy is not nihilism as you've meant it, but still.

And I am gonna suggest Joplin... too often we forget that women too will go.... all.... the.........way.

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And I am gonna suggest Joplin... too often we forget that women too will go.... all.... the.........way.


Couldn't Mama Cass fit this ...one sandwich too many

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.

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So they need to be dead?

Johnny Thunders?
Brian Jones?
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the subject line said "were" so i just thought....

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Yeah, but some people just get old and mellow out.
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true true

though "were" and "nihilist" usually hints pretty heavily at self-inflicted exit wounds

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as stated by toots, definitely going with Dead (Per Yngve Ohlin). dude was completely fucked, far more so than GG even. his pure hatred for humanity & life is frightening.
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F**K You, Dave Wrote:
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Hey lets make a list of dudes, who play rock music and died relatively early

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hey lets be redundant in a thread

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G.G. definitely.
My add would be The Swans...I find it impossible to listen to them without feeling an oppressive sense of depression.

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toots and the midols Wrote:
hey lets be redundant in a thread


Hey let's be superfluous in a thread.

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I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.

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I find it impossible to listen to them without feeling an oppressive sense of depression.


And that makes them different from all other music, how?
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mugwump67 Wrote:
I find it impossible to listen to them without feeling an oppressive sense of depression.


And that makes them different from all other music, how?


OPA Wrote:
M.Ward's voice makes it move a little

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Kingfish Wrote:
Hey lets make a list of dudes, who play rock music and died relatively early


I listen to a song like Laughner's "Cinderella Backstreet" and there is just nothing there. No hope. You know that he is gonna go early and you know that he knows. I don't get that from Cobain or Jim Morrison.

And I do get that from some of the Birthday Party stuff (or Grinderman)... even though Nick Cave isn't gone.

EDIT:
Oh, and I suppose I can add early Velvet Underground to that list (pre-S/T).

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I don't see how anyone with any appreciation for already existing music (i.e. Laughner, Thunders, Joplin, etc...) could possibly be included here. These people all revered a lot of the music that came before them. A nihilist would have probably pissed on Bessie Smith's grave in Mount Lawn cemetery before buying her a new headstone.

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