so apparently it isn't just tinfoil hat stuff. here's some computer scientists from priceton showing how it can be done in under a minute

video (kinda long but interesting)

Seems like we are in for another 'Florida, we want a re-count'.

i'm not real surprised at this actually...

Yep, no real surprise. Wonder if katherine Harris has anything to do with this?

guys, guys, come one. that machine had "old software" on it. the new version is totally secure. diebold said so.

What is the point of electronic voting machines? Is it too much effort to count X's or something?

when they're not made by cheney's brother or whatever, electronic voting machines are generally more accurate than hand-counting, and far more efficient.

ATTENTION:

Only HideousLump and OPA! should sate their curiosity by visting hangingchad.com

had these people as a tenant for several years and wouldnt trust them to take my trash to the curb.

I'm not usually one to believe in these hairbrained conspiracies but something about that Senate and Gubernatorial election in Georgia in 2002 (the first statewide election that we voted with the electronic machines) still stinks a little bit to me. I dunno...

I do usually joke with the poll workers in my (overwhelmingly Republican) precinct whenever you have to register a party affiliation that they will probably throw my vote away before I even get to the door.

They dont think it's funny the humorless old coots.

I know Haq, but this is the reason we panic:
Just Imagine this GOP ticket for '08:
Pres: Rush limbaugh
VP: Ann Coulter

Sec. Of State: Sean Hannity
Chief Of Staff: Bill O'Riley
Atty gen.: Tom Delay

So, by this way of thinking, the DEMOCRATIC Secretary of State, who 4 years later would run for Governor, set up a loss of all constitutional offices, but was able to ensure the keeping of the state legislature? It was, unfortunately, an idea whose time had come.

Also, I love how the thinking is ONLY Republicans who can do this, when Democrats were the ones who had dead people voting in alphabetical order.

Remember, three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead, there are no conspiracies.

well clearly anybody can do it, and the dems don't have clean hands as far as election fraud is concerned (although I' d argue they have somewhat cleaner hands over the last decade than republicans)
i just wonder if paper ballots aren't a better idea (or at least voting machines that print out a verifiable paper trail, although that could be hacked as well). it seems like it would take a conspiracy among a lot more people to replace paper ballots with ballots pre-filled out for your favorite candidate. and that sort of fraud would almost have to take place on election day, when lots more people are paying attention. hacking one of these machines only requires access for a short time, and it could happen months before the election--when security is probably much more lax. and it could be carried out by one overzealous party hack, one diebold technician, etc--less people would have to be involved and keep their mouths shut. certainly it would be damn near impossible on a national level, but in a few heavily populated areas in a few swing states, it could make a difference.
if nothing else, the fact that its so possible and easy to hack these machines should be raising serious alarm bells.

But only Republicans run Diebold.

"[I am] committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."--Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc., in an August 13, 2003, invitation to a $1,000-a-plate fundraising dinner at his Ohio mansion.

I'm not one who falls for conspiracy theories, but this shit scares the crap out of me. The thing is, it wouldn't take a conspiracy to mess with an election, just some hacker in his basement who decided that writing worms and viruses wasn't challenging enough anymore.

I check out Black Box Voting every once in a while for a little paranoia boost.

Wow... although you appear hot, you sound stupid.