Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

Board index : Music Talk : Rock/Pop

Author Message
 Post subject: hacking electronic voting machines
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:11 am 
Offline
"Weddings, Parties, Anything…"

Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:50 pm
Posts: 853
Location: lawrencekansas
so apparently it isn't just tinfoil hat stuff. here's some computer scientists from priceton showing how it can be done in under a minute

video (kinda long but interesting)

_________________
"who believe any mess they read up on a message board"
--mf doom


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: hacking electronic voting machines
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:56 am 
Offline
Garage Band
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:18 pm
Posts: 627
druucifer Wrote:
so apparently it isn't just tinfoil hat stuff. here's some computer scientists from priceton showing how it can be done in under a minute

video (kinda long but interesting)


Seems like we are in for another 'Florida, we want a re-count'.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:22 am 
Offline
Bedroom Demos

Joined: Fri Feb 17, 2006 1:31 pm
Posts: 273
Location: Brunswick, ME
i'm not real surprised at this actually...


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: hacking electronic voting machines
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:17 am 
Offline
Garage Band
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:18 pm
Posts: 627
Yep, no real surprise. Wonder if katherine Harris has anything to do with this?


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:29 pm 
Offline
frostingspoon
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:38 pm
Posts: 10237
Location: Hill
guys, guys, come one. that machine had "old software" on it. the new version is totally secure. diebold said so.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:35 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:51 am
Posts: 6327
What is the point of electronic voting machines? Is it too much effort to count X's or something?

_________________
He has arrived, the mountebank from Bohemia, he has arrived, preceded by his reputation.
Evil Dr. K "The Jimmy McNulty of Payment Protection Insurance"


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 12:44 pm 
Offline
frostingspoon
User avatar

Joined: Sat Oct 23, 2004 1:38 pm
Posts: 10237
Location: Hill
when they're not made by cheney's brother or whatever, electronic voting machines are generally more accurate than hand-counting, and far more efficient.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 1:35 pm 
Offline
Hair Trigger of Doom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:05 pm
Posts: 21295
Location: Subpoenaed in Texas
ATTENTION:

Only HideousLump and OPA! should sate their curiosity by visting hangingchad.com

_________________
bendandscoop.com


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:56 pm 
Offline
Whiskey Tango
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 26, 2004 9:08 pm
Posts: 21753
Location: REDLANDS
HaqDiesel Wrote:
diebold said so.


had these people as a tenant for several years and wouldnt trust them to take my trash to the curb.

I'm not usually one to believe in these hairbrained conspiracies but something about that Senate and Gubernatorial election in Georgia in 2002 (the first statewide election that we voted with the electronic machines) still stinks a little bit to me. I dunno...

I do usually joke with the poll workers in my (overwhelmingly Republican) precinct whenever you have to register a party affiliation that they will probably throw my vote away before I even get to the door.

They dont think it's funny the humorless old coots.

_________________
"To keep you is no benefit. To destroy you is no loss."


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: hacking electronic voting machines
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:22 pm 
Offline
Garage Band
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:18 pm
Posts: 627
HaqDiesel Wrote:
guys, guys, come one. that machine had "old software" on it. the new version is totally secure. diebold said so.


I know Haq, but this is the reason we panic:
Just Imagine this GOP ticket for '08:
Pres: Rush limbaugh
VP: Ann Coulter

Sec. Of State: Sean Hannity
Chief Of Staff: Bill O'Riley
Atty gen.: Tom Delay


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:28 pm 
Offline
A True Aristocrat of Freedom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am
Posts: 22121
Location: a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot
Yail Bloor Wrote:
HaqDiesel Wrote:
diebold said so.


had these people as a tenant for several years and wouldnt trust them to take my trash to the curb.

I'm not usually one to believe in these hairbrained conspiracies but something about that Senate and Gubernatorial election in Georgia in 2002 (the first statewide election that we voted with the electronic machines) still stinks a little bit to me. I dunno...

I do usually joke with the poll workers in my (overwhelmingly Republican) precinct whenever you have to register a party affiliation that they will probably throw my vote away before I even get to the door.

They dont think it's funny the humorless old coots.


So, by this way of thinking, the DEMOCRATIC Secretary of State, who 4 years later would run for Governor, set up a loss of all constitutional offices, but was able to ensure the keeping of the state legislature? It was, unfortunately, an idea whose time had come.

Also, I love how the thinking is ONLY Republicans who can do this, when Democrats were the ones who had dead people voting in alphabetical order.

Remember, three people can keep a secret if two of them are dead, there are no conspiracies.

_________________
Throughout his life, from childhood until death, he was beset by severe swings of mood. His depressions frequently encouraged, and were exacerbated by, his various vices. His character mixed a superficial Enlightenment sensibility for reason and taste with a genuine and somewhat Romantic love of the sublime and a propensity for occasionally puerile whimsy.
harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 4:40 pm 
Offline
"Weddings, Parties, Anything…"

Joined: Tue Dec 14, 2004 3:50 pm
Posts: 853
Location: lawrencekansas
well clearly anybody can do it, and the dems don't have clean hands as far as election fraud is concerned (although I' d argue they have somewhat cleaner hands over the last decade than republicans)
i just wonder if paper ballots aren't a better idea (or at least voting machines that print out a verifiable paper trail, although that could be hacked as well). it seems like it would take a conspiracy among a lot more people to replace paper ballots with ballots pre-filled out for your favorite candidate. and that sort of fraud would almost have to take place on election day, when lots more people are paying attention. hacking one of these machines only requires access for a short time, and it could happen months before the election--when security is probably much more lax. and it could be carried out by one overzealous party hack, one diebold technician, etc--less people would have to be involved and keep their mouths shut. certainly it would be damn near impossible on a national level, but in a few heavily populated areas in a few swing states, it could make a difference.
if nothing else, the fact that its so possible and easy to hack these machines should be raising serious alarm bells.

_________________
"who believe any mess they read up on a message board"
--mf doom


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 2:43 am 
Offline
Second Album Slump
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm
Posts: 2055
Location: In the library, with the candlestick
Sen. LooGAR (D - MEH) Wrote:
I love how the thinking is ONLY Republicans who can do this, when Democrats were the ones who had dead people voting in alphabetical order.

But only Republicans run Diebold.

"[I am] committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."--Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold Inc., in an August 13, 2003, invitation to a $1,000-a-plate fundraising dinner at his Ohio mansion.

I'm not one who falls for conspiracy theories, but this shit scares the crap out of me. The thing is, it wouldn't take a conspiracy to mess with an election, just some hacker in his basement who decided that writing worms and viruses wasn't challenging enough anymore.

I check out Black Box Voting every once in a while for a little paranoia boost.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: hacking electronic voting machines
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:12 am 
Offline
"Weddings, Parties, Anything…"
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:49 pm
Posts: 774
Location: Tulsa, OK
G-Force Wrote:
HaqDiesel Wrote:
guys, guys, come one. that machine had "old software" on it. the new version is totally secure. diebold said so.


I know Haq, but this is the reason we panic:
Just Imagine this GOP ticket for '08:
Pres: Rush limbaugh
VP: Ann Coulter

Sec. Of State: Sean Hannity
Chief Of Staff: Bill O'Riley
Atty gen.: Tom Delay



Wow... although you appear hot, you sound stupid.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 14 posts ] 

Board index : Music Talk : Rock/Pop


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Google [Bot] and 56 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Style by Midnight Phoenix & N.Design Studio
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.