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PostPosted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:01 pm 
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3/3, 3hr, 9rbi through 4 innings.


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10 rbi now and 4/4

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oof. oof.

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I was in the house....

it was sweeeeet.

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omg a good game.

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That is just ridiculous....I am in awe right now


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Bout time he's making that 1st overall pick count in Fantasy Baseball...
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Everytime A-Rod has a great game it's like a punch to my gut.

Oof.

Cuz I want to hate the SOB.

Just sometimes he's damned good.


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doesn't change the fact that he's clubhouse poison.

i love that everyone in the leauge hates him. and i love that the yanks throw him under the bus at the first sign of trouble.


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how have the yanks thrown him under a bus? first sign of trouble?

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no one came to his defense when the sox ripped him all spring.

yanks we're second out of the dugout by a longshot when tek drilled him in the face.

several players blamed defense for losing the game against the sox where he made the costly error on a routine double play ball, while sticking up for your fruitbat closer who blew 2 straight saves.


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no one came to his defense when the sox ripped him all spring.


Some remarks are so stupid that they warrant no response. Keith Fuckin' Millar saying A-Rod isn't a real yankee. Give me a break. That's like if Fran Healy started mouthin' off that Fred Lynn wasn't a true bosox.

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yanks we're second out of the dugout by a longshot when tek drilled him in the face.


You're talking about the team whose tough guy a few years ago was Don Zimmer. Yankees just don't rush out of the dugout...has nothing to do with A-Rod

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several players blamed defense for losing the game against the sox where he made the costly error on a routine double play ball, while sticking up for your fruitbat closer who blew 2 straight saves.


I've never heard a single player (other than A-Rod himself) criticize A-Rod's defense. I read the NY press religiously, watch every post game show and even occasionally watch Mike & the Maddog. It just hasn't happened.

You're clearly seeing things the way that you want to based on not liking him.


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thanks Billy.

I don't have the energy to argue with RedSox fans.....

you nailed it though.

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the reason the yanks said nothing while the sox ripped him is that they were also pissed off by his out of school comments about how much harder he works out than anyone else in the offseason.

jeter made the comment about the defense and rivera after that booted double play ball. post game comments on yes. unfortuanetly, i had to watch the second rate broadcast that day. too bad.

lastly, what makes you think that the yankees are any different than the rangers, who incorparated arod slap imitations into their baserunning drills this spring? it's clear that he is about as resoected by the yankee players as he is by former teammates, who detest him.


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the reason the yanks said nothing while the sox ripped him is that they were also pissed off by his out of school comments about how much harder he works out than anyone else in the offseason.


Unless you're personally friends with players and have gotten this from the horse's mouth then I call bullshit. Much to do about nothing there.

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jeter made the comment about the defense and rivera after that booted double play ball. post game comments on yes. unfortuanetly, i had to watch the second rate broadcast that day. too bad.


I was watching too. Jeter made the comment in defense of Rivera when the reporters were pilling on Rivera asking why he was sucking it up so bad. Jeter was pointing out that the game just got out of their hands and that the TEAM wasn't playing well. I interpreted it as a more, A-Rod flubbed the dp play and that's not going to happen very often than as an attack on A-Rod. You seem to hate A-rod so you read it differently.


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lastly, what makes you think that the yankees are any different than the rangers, who incorparated arod slap imitations into their baserunning drills this spring? it's clear that he is about as resoected by the yankee players as he is by former teammates, who detest him.


He made some remarks that he was the star of that Rangers team and that management didn't surround him with enough talent to win. Of course the current players that were part of the teams he played on resented that. But that has nothing to do with the yankees.

I think that stuff still is very much overblown though. Teams look for things to rally around. I doubt many of the rangers waste as much time really hating on A-Rod like you do.

Personally, he's far from my favorite player but I'll admit he's an outstanding one and one that I'm glad is a Yankee. I think he's probably got as a legitimate shot to be MVP this year as anyone.


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Judging from the views of former teammates, opposing players and rival executives interviewed for this story, Schilling appears to be right. When asked about Rodriguez, players often roll their eyes in silent disapproval.

During Rodriguez's tenure with the Rangers, he occasionally would make like a Little League coach, shouting basic instructions at his younger teammates. "Get a secondary lead!" he would yell to a runner on first. "Get a secondary lead!" After Rodriguez left the team, one prominent American League veteran asked a younger Ranger with a chuckle, "How are you even able to play without A-Rod telling you what to do?"

That same veteran speaks disdainfully about the way Rodriguez and Jeter race each other to the top step of the dugout to congratulate teammates and celebrate important plays. He makes Rodriguez sound like a know-it-all valedictorian, observing sarcastically, "He's trying to be the perfect player." And yet, like every other player, he holds Rodriguez's game in the highest esteem. In comparing Rodriguez and Jeter, the veteran says A-Rod is "10 times better."


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Everytime A-Rod has a great game it's like a punch to my gut.

Oof.

Cuz I want to hate the SOB.

Just sometimes he's damned good.


Hate him anyway, works for me. He is the Peyton Manning of baseball. The guy just isn't a winner.

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Amazing performance.

Payrod may be the best player in baseball and after all is said and done his numbers may garner "best player of his generation" praise but I still hate his ass for leaving the Rangers.

He knew what was going to happen when he signed that contract. They weren't going to have any money to put pieces around him and none for pitching. When it all came true and they were cemented in the basement of their division he bolted. He made his bed and didn't want to sleep in it. Of course then the Yankees were the only team able to pick up his financial burden.

I don't begrudge him getting paid, good for him, but i hate him for not honoring his commitment. This is actually more about the aspects of baseball that I hate, namely the out of control salaries, small markets never having a chance, etc. than it is about Arod but to me he represents all that is wrong with baseball to me.


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Thrillhouse,

The only two players directly quoted with disparaging remarks by that article are Redsox. And one of those is Shilling who should know something about being hated by former teammates. Randy Johnson basically said last year that he'd have refused a trade to the redsox because he hates Shilling. So what, though, I don't interprete Johnson's hate for him as meaning that the Redsox dislike him like you seem to be doing with A-Rod.

The one thing I do agree with the article is that A-Rod is overly political and polished in his interviews. Always says the right thing and as a result he comes across as a phony. After yesterday's game, he made sure to rejoice about the team's win as much as his game and claimed not to even think about hitting a 4th homerun when he came up for his 4th AB. I call bullshit. Its hard to really blame him though given the microscope he's under. He's such a lightening rod for criticism given his salary that I think people want to dislike him, twist things he says, etc etc etc.

Its hard for me to really argue with his defense:

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you say the truth, you're a jerk. If you're political, you're a phony," Rodriguez says. "You tell me — what's the right thing to do? All I really care about is guys who have been around me for a long time, guys who go to war with me — my teammates, my manager. Anything else is a non-issue."



np: Segun Bucknor


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When it all came true and they were cemented in the basement of their division he bolted. He made his bed and didn't want to sleep in it. Of course then the Yankees were the only team able to pick up his financial burden.

I don't begrudge him getting paid, good for him, but i hate him for not honoring his commitment. This is actually more about the aspects of baseball that I hate, namely the out of control salaries, small markets never having a chance, etc. than it is about Arod but to me he represents all that is wrong with baseball to me.


How did he "not honor his commitment" He didn't demand to be traded. Rangers wanted to trade him to free up money for resigning other players, pursuing more pitching, etc. He would have honored his commitment if not traded. Rangers are better off without him but that doesn't make him a bad guy necessarily.


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Plus the Rangers are paying a large portion of the remainder of his contrat....the Yanks are responsible for all $25 mill each year.

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