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i listen to that broken social scene semiregularly, but that might be more because i got it much later

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I listen to stuff on random a lot more now that my ipod is broken. I have also cut way down on buying stuff.

And, I haven't heard of nor do I really care to hear probably 80% of the stuff in this thread...I mean, billy are you lamenting last years (or 01 or 02's) flavors of the year? I don't really get it...

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he is just pointing out that we are a bunch of indie idiots who buy a bunch of crappy albums because everyone else is and we now have a bunch of crappy albums lying around our house. we should have spent the money on classic soul albums, country albums, and world music.

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he is just pointing out that we are a bunch of indie idiots who buy a bunch of crappy albums because everyone else is and we now have a bunch of crappy albums lying around our house. we should have spent the money on classic soul albums, country albums, and world music.


Oh Ok, cool, I don't really qualify, because I secretly think that a lot of the stuff yall listen to is GAR. The again, some of it is qual..so....

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he is just pointing out that we are a bunch of indie idiots who buy a bunch of crappy albums because everyone else is and we now have a bunch of crappy albums lying around our house. we should have spent the money on classic soul albums, country albums, and world music.


While this might be true, that's really not the point of the thread. Up until last year, I was buying a few hundred indie records a year myself. I was probably buying as much as anyone, too much for me to really digest to be honest.

I've been trying to go through my cds that I don't dislike but don't listen to much at all from the past 3 or 4 years and decide whether to keep it or not. In doing that I've come across some things I am surprised to find that I really like much more than I remember (eg Unwound & Fugazi) and other stuff I'm pretty meh about (eg Hawksley Workman). Most of these are not things that I ever loved but things I bought or downloaded based on board hype. I guess i was trying to start this little trip down memory lane to remind people how great some of these are, get guidance on what people still like so I can give a closer listen to those before trading 'em in, and well basically appease my general curiousity why people once really liked a bunch of these but just don't listen to 'em much anymore.


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he is just pointing out that we are a bunch of indie idiots who buy a bunch of crappy albums because everyone else is and we now have a bunch of crappy albums lying around our house. we should have spent the money on classic soul albums, country albums, and world music.


While this might be true, that's really not the point of the thread. Up until last year, I was buying a few hundred indie records a year myself. I was probably buying as much as anyone, too much for me to really digest to be honest.

I've been trying to go through my cds that I don't dislike but don't listen to much at all from the past 3 or 4 years and decide whether to keep it or not. In doing that I've come across some things I am surprised to find that I really like much more than I remember (eg Unwound & Fugazi) and other stuff I'm pretty meh about (eg Hawksley Workman). Most of these are not things that I ever loved but things I bought or downloaded based on board hype. I guess i was trying to start this little trip down memory lane to remind people how great some of these are, get guidance on what people still like so I can give a closer listen to those before trading 'em in, and well basically appease my general curiousity why people once really liked a bunch of these but just don't listen to 'em much anymore.


I get it, but don't you think it's gonna be the same say 2 years from now? aka, why isn't anyone playing Franz or INterpol, or Magnolia Electric Co?

when I first started posting at CMJ I bought Vanderslice and Franz based on the hype, and was seriously WTF?!?!?? about Vanderslice, and realiezed maybe these are just people like me: listen to a lot of music, but their opinions should be taken with a grain of salt. So, now I just buy what I want to hear, which is why I have only purchased 1 record in 2005.

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I've been much happier since I decided I wouldn't try to hear everything I was curious about but would be more discrimininating, so from my own personal perspective I would hate the idea of only listening to each cd once or twice. For my favorites, I couldn't imagine limiting myself to only 2 listens and for many I consider myself lucky to not have to listen to them once.


That's a perfectly valid decision to make - in my case, I can hardly afford to buy any music at all, so my curiosity about new music greatly outpaces my new music listening - just about everything in my collection gets thoroughly digested.

I'm serious, though - I feel like I have a great hunger for music, and while the styles of music that I am interested in might change from time to time (day to day), that interest does not.

Considering that this board started off as a spin-off of the CMJ bulletin board, we shouldn't be too surprised that many people who post here are very interested in new music. In contrast, I am always pleasantly surprised when I see how much music our members listen to - music spanning the history of commercial recording.

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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
I get it, but don't you think it's gonna be the same say 2 years from now? aka, why isn't anyone playing Franz or INterpol, or Magnolia Electric Co?

when I first started posting at CMJ I bought Vanderslice and Franz based on the hype, and was seriously WTF?!?!?? about Vanderslice, and realiezed maybe these are just people like me: listen to a lot of music, but their opinions should be taken with a grain of salt. So, now I just buy what I want to hear, which is why I have only purchased 1 record in 2005.


I wasn't complaining that people were leading me wrong with hype. No one put a gun to my head and told me to buy all that stuff. I just was a bit overzealous having not bought a lot of indie rock in a while and having a real hunger for it and not enough of a quality filter. But I bought a lot of stuff that I didn't have much love or hate for and never traded in. It got lost in my collection.

My post was first to say hey this Unwound is pretty f'n good. I never realized that and why doesn't whoever was hyping it a couple of years ago still listen to it. Interpol & Franz? I don't know whether folks will listen to them as much but I doubt that they will get lost in collections.

I didn't pick Shins, the Hives, Queens of the Stone Age, White Stripes, the Strokes or YHF to ask about because people may not listen to them anymore but I think people probably didn't forget about them. I'm wondering about the others that were still hyped but not quite at that level.

So a better analogy than Interpol might be Ike Reilly. In a couple of years if no one is listening to it, It might be worth asking whether you want to dig that one out again and listen to it or whether it just didn't age that well.

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i'm pretty sure i'll be listening to at least one songs:ohia/magnolia electric co. album 5 years from now. I'm not sure i've ever listened to a franz album in its entirety.

i listen to that walkmen album about once a week.

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I haven't played that in awhile but not really think of it as forgotten or buried in my collection. It made my listmania and is still my favorite disc of the last five years. The only reason I haven't listened to it lately is I give all my Walkmen spins to the newer album hoping that with additional spins I'll be able to connect with it that way I have with that one. So far no luck though.

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i'm pretty sure i'll be listening to at least one songs:ohia/magnolia electric co. album 5 years from now. I'm not sure i've ever listened to a franz album in its entirety.

i listen to that walkmen album about once a week.


How is Ohia/MEC comparable to the new album...which sounds like some meh Neil Young?

I just got that Walkmen album from FT, and it is good, but I can't see what makes it far and away better than Bows & Arrows (which I still listen to A LOT)

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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I listened to BSS yesterday and still think it's one of the best releases this decade so far.


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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
Cotton Wrote:
i'm pretty sure i'll be listening to at least one songs:ohia/magnolia electric co. album 5 years from now. I'm not sure i've ever listened to a franz album in its entirety.

i listen to that walkmen album about once a week.


How is Ohia/MEC comparable to the new album...which sounds like some meh Neil Young?

I just got that Walkmen album from FT, and it is good, but I can't see what makes it far and away better than Bows & Arrows (which I still listen to A LOT)


I don't feel qualified to make the Songs Ohia comparison. I've only listened to the new one twice and he's a guy that it takes a while for his music to sink in.

With regard to the Walkmen album though, personally I like the older one better because of the texture/feel of the album and that the melodies/hooks are more buried and subtle. You may like the newer one better for precisely the opposite reasons, but I'd give it some time before deciding. It took me six months to really fall in love with the first album and I liked it more after two years of listening to it than I did after six months. After three years I still haven't tired of it. I doubt the 2nd album will have that kind of staying power for anyone because at least for me I stopped hearing anything new in it very quickly. I probably would have given up on it completely if I didn't love the first one so much.


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i'm pretty sure i'll be listening to at least one songs:ohia/magnolia electric co. album 5 years from now. I'm not sure i've ever listened to a franz album in its entirety.

i listen to that walkmen album about once a week.


How is Ohia/MEC comparable to the new album...which sounds like some meh Neil Young?

I just got that Walkmen album from FT, and it is good, but I can't see what makes it far and away better than Bows & Arrows (which I still listen to A LOT)


I don't feel qualified to make the Songs Ohia comparison. I've only listened to the new one twice and he's a guy that it takes a while for his music to sink in.

With regard to the Walkmen album though, personally I like the older one better because of the texture/feel of the album and that the melodies/hooks are more buried and subtle. You may like the newer one better for precisely the opposite reasons, but I'd give it some time before deciding. It took me six months to really fall in love with the first album and I liked it more after two years of listening to it than I did after six months. After three years I still haven't tired of it. I doubt the 2nd album will have that kind of staying power for anyone because at least for me I stopped hearing anything new in it very quickly. I probably would have given up on it completely if I didn't love the first one so much.


I think once i get my ipod fixed, and can hear this bugger on something other than my laptop's speakers, I will be able to really hear some of the stuff youa re talking about.

Oh, and check yr. PM, BG.

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I still like that Anniversay disc.

And, it's true, I had forgotten abou the Starlight Mints disc. I may have to pull that one out.

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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
How is Ohia/MEC comparable to the new album...which sounds like some meh Neil Young?

I just got that Walkmen album from FT, and it is good, but I can't see what makes it far and away better than Bows & Arrows (which I still listen to A LOT)


i like the new one, but not as much as MEC. But then as billy said it is one of those things that sinks in...

as far as the Walkmen, I think they're both spectacular albums. The first half (or side 1 for the anachronistic) of Everyone is unstoppable as far as an album setting up an atmosphere and just pummeling you into feeling it. The second half is really good, but I think it lacks a little acter the opening. B+A i think is a better whole album, has fewer standout crazy moments IMO. Speaking of which, that's another drummer that i really dig no no explainable reason...

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I still listen to the BSS, Control, and The Argument fairly regularly. Problem is, I usually only post one album to the np: thread per day.

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