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PostPosted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:20 pm 
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when making single band comps do most of us go chronologically or how do you arrange tracks?

I have a pretty good Stones mix cooked up, and it is chronological, because that's just what makes sense to me, but if anyone wants to advise on other ways of arrangement I am all ears.

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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
when making single band comps do most of us go chronologically or how do you arrange tracks?

I have a pretty good Stones mix cooked up, and it is chronological, because that's just what makes sense to me, but if anyone wants to advise on other ways of arrangement I am all ears.


i usually go chronologically, but i've done differently a few times. i think i first did a non-chronological mix after the beastie boys released their anthology, which wasn't chronological. they explained that it just didn't sound good in order, so they mixed it up. and that made me want to give it a shot.

my man or astroman mix is done with the A-side culled from albums and the B-side from singles. a pulp mix that i did a few years ago was done pretty similarly, except that i put their early stuff near the end.


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i usually go chronologically, but i've done differently a few times. i think i first did a non-chronological mix after the beastie boys released their anthology, which wasn't chronological. they explained that it just didn't sound good in order, so they mixed it up. and that made me want to give it a shot.


that's basically my rule. if it seems to work chronlogically, i'll probably go with that as that's probably how i added the tracks in the first place. if it doesn't seem to work or sounds bad for some reason, i'll switch things up. i just feel the chronlogical is usually a good overview of with most bands that i'm making something like this for, i'll probably be wanting whoever it is to hear the progression of the band's sound. chronological with certain exceptions.

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Hmmm...kinda surprised that I'm gonna be the first non-chronological guy on this thread.

I almost always mix it up - the main thing for me is having the CD "flow" in an appealing way. If I may say so, I'm really really good at this.

On occasion I'll do it chronologically, but usually only if a band's sound changed radically from the beginning to the end/present.


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I have never done chronologically. I try to mix it up and get the best flow that I can. Usually, I just sort it randomly and work from there, knowing which songs I want to begin and end with.


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I almost always mix it up - the main thing for me is having the CD "flow" in an appealing way.

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I made a Deftones mix for Neuroboy and it's in chronological order, though if I had the option to randomize the tracks on Roxio EZ CD Creator as I do on Mixmeister, I would've mixed them up. Alas, I was lazy.

edit: I've made some single artist mixes for myself (ac/dc, van halen, misfits) and I think I'd get bored if they were chronological.

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I think either way can work. If an artist's development has made any sort of sense, there's going to be a natural flow in it anyway. I'm far too hooked on MusicMagic's smooth shuffle to attempt a chrono mix now, though. That's some good stuff.

FYI, the Beth Orton one I did (all tracks from Other Side of Daybreak and her best of's B-side/rarity disc) was not chrono.


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i like for there to at least be some organization. i'm as much a proponent for a mix's flow as anyone, but i don't think of sequencing as my top priority when making a single artist mix to be used as an introduction.


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If you don't go chronological it's like saying Time doesn't know what it's doing.

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If you don't go chronological it's like saying Time doesn't know what it's doing.


Well he does have a tendency to get ticked off and his hands are always sweeping around in circles.

I think he's a bit crazy.




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If you don't go chronological it's like saying The Time doesn't know what it's doing.


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I'm in the non-chrono camp. The only exception is that sometimes I'll kick of the mix with the earliest track, but it meanders from there.


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I'm in the non-chrono camp. The only exception is that sometimes I'll kick of the mix with the earliest track, but it meanders from there.


What you said Bilz; but actually I oftentimes just look for the best "opening" track---no matter whn that comes in the bands history.

Kinda like making setlists, i like a good mix of 1's, 2's 3's etc. Though I've found over the years that their are way too many 2's and 3's and closing tracks that I dig IMHO.

Edit: Chronological with a Stones mix is impossible and frankly wrongheaded Sen. Lets match it up in the Mix Forum though for public consumption and a poll vote (I suggest a two volume affair: Vol. 1: A serious kick-out-the-jams affair; Vol. 2: "Best of the Monger Tracks" with mostly later shit since they say we can't do it......

P.S. Dave, didnt I do a massive Stones mix in Athens when you first acquired the whole catalog on CD and I only had a tape player in the Camry? Have to dig that out for reference.......

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I'm in the non-chrono camp. The only exception is that sometimes I'll kick of the mix with the earliest track, but it meanders from there.


What you said Bilz; but actually I oftentimes just look for the best "opening" track---no matter whn that comes in the bands history.

Kinda like making setlists, i like a good mix of 1's, 2's 3's etc. Though I've found over the years that their are way too many 2's and 3's and closing tracks that I dig IMHO.

Edit: Chronological with a Stones mix is impossible and frankly wrongheaded Sen. Lets match it up in the Mix Forum though for public consumption and a poll vote (I suggest a two volume affair: Vol. 1: A serious kick-out-the-jams affair; Vol. 2: "Best of the Monger Tracks" with mostly later shit since they say we can't do it......

P.S. Dave, didnt I do a massive Stones mix in Athens when you first acquired the whole catalog on CD and I only had a tape player in the Camry? Have to dig that out for reference.......


See, to me all of the tracks are chronoligical, like in my head. I have a Stones mix in my car that goes: Aftermath, Let it Bleed, Beggar's Banquet, Sticky Fingers and then the whole second side of the tape is Exile.

It sounds great. Of course now, I would make it different, but probably mostly in order.

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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:
when making single band comps do most of us go chronologically or how do you arrange tracks?
That's not the hard question, the hard question is, if their albums are so strong that you want to include just about every song on the album, how do you handle that situation?

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