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 Post subject: my issue with reissues
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:12 pm 
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i like the extra tracks, but i wish they would put AT LEAST a 20 second pause in there or something when the actual album is done.

the artist intended silence after the album is over.

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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:18 pm 
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the extra tracks should be on a bonus disc. i agree that the album should be left alone.


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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:22 pm 
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I rarely listen to the bonus tracks more than once. There are exceptions, but the extra tracks usually annoy me more than anything else. I always find it interesting that people get so hacked with people like Ryan Adams putting out so much music, and then spuge their pants when an album is reissued with 10 extra crappy tracks.

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i'm listening to the Love resissue, and the last song is so epic and brings such closure to the album . . . and then one second later i'm listening to an alternate take.

cd's cost 5 cents, i agree they should be put on a seperate disk.

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if the dualdisc can be used for cd/dvd, why not cd/cd? plop the bonus stuff there.

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 Post subject: Re: my issue with reissues
PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:24 pm 
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jewels santana Wrote:
i like the extra tracks, but i wish they would put AT LEAST a 20 second pause in there or something when the actual album is done.

the artist intended silence after the album is over.

Not quite on topic but I miss the 2 sides of a record. Of course the entire thing is meant to be appreciated as a whole, but I always liked how an artist would try something new or change the mood after you flipped an album. Each side was an album in itself.

I vote for mandatory 60 second break between "sides" of a CD.

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I rarely listen to the bonus tracks more than once. There are exceptions, but the extra tracks usually annoy me more than anything else. I always find it interesting that people get so hacked with people like Ryan Adams putting out so much music, and then spuge their pants when an album is reissued with 10 extra crappy tracks.


I am currently listening to the reissue of Dusty In Memphis.
It includes 14 EXTRA tracks, on top of the original 11-track lp.
I, for one appreciate all the extra music.

But, I do wish they would put in a 20-second stretch of silence between the album and bonus materials, as well. I would like that king of separation.

But still.... More music = More gooder.

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 Post subject: Re: my issue with reissues
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DunwoodyDude Wrote:
jewels santana Wrote:
i like the extra tracks, but i wish they would put AT LEAST a 20 second pause in there or something when the actual album is done.

the artist intended silence after the album is over.

Not quite on topic but I miss the 2 sides of a record. Of course the entire thing is meant to be appreciated as a whole, but I always liked how an artist would try something new or change the mood after you flipped an album. Each side was an album in itself.

I vote for mandatory 60 second break between "sides" of a CD.

Steve


tom petty nailed this one

"hello CD listeners . . ."

god i love that. should be on all CD's.

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jewels santana Wrote:
DunwoodyDude Wrote:
jewels santana Wrote:
i like the extra tracks, but i wish they would put AT LEAST a 20 second pause in there or something when the actual album is done.

the artist intended silence after the album is over.

Not quite on topic but I miss the 2 sides of a record. Of course the entire thing is meant to be appreciated as a whole, but I always liked how an artist would try something new or change the mood after you flipped an album. Each side was an album in itself.

I vote for mandatory 60 second break between "sides" of a CD.

Steve


tom petty nailed this one

"hello CD listeners . . ."

god i love that. should be on all CD's.


Matthew Sweet actuall inserted the sound of a needle being lowered onto a vinyl record between sides 1 & 2 of Girlfriend.

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 Post subject: Re: my issue with reissues
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PopTodd Wrote:
jewels santana Wrote:
DunwoodyDude Wrote:
jewels santana Wrote:
i like the extra tracks, but i wish they would put AT LEAST a 20 second pause in there or something when the actual album is done.

the artist intended silence after the album is over.

Not quite on topic but I miss the 2 sides of a record. Of course the entire thing is meant to be appreciated as a whole, but I always liked how an artist would try something new or change the mood after you flipped an album. Each side was an album in itself.

I vote for mandatory 60 second break between "sides" of a CD.

Steve


tom petty nailed this one

"hello CD listeners . . ."

god i love that. should be on all CD's.


Matthew Sweet actuall inserted the sound of a needle being lowered onto a vinyl record between sides 1 & 2 of Girlfriend.

Dramarama did the needle sound on Vinyl(which makes sense). I'm pretty sure it's just at the beginning and end though.


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Wilco didn't need to make "being there" two CD's (if they took out the alternate version of "outta site" it could have been one CD)

but i like that they did.

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I absolutely agree, especially when its stereo/mono versions back to back or alternate versions of the same songs.


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I, for one appreciate all the extra music.

And if you don't like all those BONUS songs by a FAVORITE artist that you're basically getting for FREE then most modern component stereo systems come with a special little button often marked with the letters S - T - O - P. Try using it instead of bitching about such horseshit.


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I dont think its bullshit.. I see the aesthetic point behind it..


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jewels santana Wrote:
Wilco didn't need to make "being there" two CD's (if they took out the alternate version of "outta site" it could have been one CD)

but i like that they did.


Actually it would have fit on one cd with that song.

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Pretty much all of the Jethro Tull remasters have about 10 seconds of silence between the album songs and the extra tracks.

Super Furry Animals put a separate disc in their reissues for the bonus tracks.

With bands that I really love, I appreciate having extra songs, but alternate versions and demos make the album feel too repetitive when placed with their counterparts on the same disc.

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PopTodd Wrote:
I, for one appreciate all the extra music.

And if you don't like all those BONUS songs by a FAVORITE artist that you're basically getting for FREE then most modern component stereo systems come with a special little button often marked with the letters S - T - O - P. Try using it instead of bitching about such horseshit.


you don't understand things.

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I don't cream my self over these like lots of people do, and usually the only time I pick em up is if I am interested in an album anyway, and there happens to be a remaster with bonus material.

The only 3 I can think of are Lynyrd Skynyrd "One More From the Road," which is just some stuff from the other nights at the concert and only repeats one or two songs. Dusty in Memphis which fucking awesome anyway, and I don't think it matters how much more thye put on it. AND, Velvet Underground "Loaded," which as some alternate versions that are enjoyable enough, but also includes an early demo of "Satellite of Love" that is pretty quuh.

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Jewels I think it is a pretty damn good idea. Shake them haters off.

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I think most of the newer Elvis Costello reissues put the extras on a second cd.


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PopTodd Wrote:
I, for one appreciate all the extra music.

And if you don't like all those BONUS songs by a FAVORITE artist that you're basically getting for FREE then most modern component stereo systems come with a special little button often marked with the letters S - T - O - P. Try using it instead of bitching about such horseshit.



YOU KIDS GET OFFA MY LAWN!!!!!!!


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Senator Dis Soff LooGAR Wrote:

The only 3 I can think of are Lynyrd Skynyrd "One More From the Road,"


Back in the day I had this on cassette, CD and Vinyl (I probably still have it in all formats, actually) and the Vinyl version had a couple of songs the CD version didn't have if I remember right. Thought that was weird.


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jewels santana Wrote:
i like the extra tracks, but i wish they would put AT LEAST a 20 second pause in there or something when the actual album is done.

the artist intended silence after the album is over.

This is one of those times when I find a new appreciation for the things like the Ipod. I rip the discs that pair up the extras on the same disc as the original album by giving the bonus tracks a different album title (you know, "title (Bonus Tracks)" or something like that.) It works out great because the Ipod only plays the album, and then I can choose if and when I want to listen to the bonus stuff.

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If you're not going to get bonus tracks, what's the blasted point? Just print another couple hundred thousand of the original and be done with it.

And another thing, it's absolute b.s. for anything recorded in the last 20 years to require a remastering. It's not like the only thing you had in 1985 was some crappy four track that hissed like a komodo dragon.


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[quote="Billzebub"]And another thing, it's absolute b.s. for anything recorded in the last 20 years to require a remastering./quote]


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