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I'm sort of a recent convert to XTC (and someone who was an unfortunately obsessive Primus fan in the early 90's) but I think that Les and them's cover of "Making Plan's for Nigel" outpaces the original.

Apologies to albion and other old school peeps.....

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I'll take Primus over XTC in everything except begging for hellfire.

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They're both better than the Novelle Vague version

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If Les Claypool was a dog in a park, Andy Partridge would be the guy holding the leash and bagging the poo.

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If Les Claypool was a dog in a park, Andy Partridge would be the guy holding the leash and bagging the poo.

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No doubt.....

Hope you put a lot of thought into that diss, pops...... I guess my monger credentials have been revoked, n'es pas? :wink:

BTW, I think Primus' version of Have a Cigar is better than Floyd's as well.

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BTW, I think Primus' version of Have a Cigar is better than Floyd's as well.

If Pink Floyd was a dog in a park, Primus would be the steamroller with the canine's carcass stuck to the wheel.


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Primus? Really, Chris? Every album I've ever heard has a couple of killer songs, but then the rest do nothing for me. Regardless, Les is pretty awesome.

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I don't think I'v even heard the XTC version. Could be track one or two on my mix that never worked... But I was always a fan of the Primus version.

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i've tried to like XTC but i've never heard a song of theirs that was even borderline rememberable.


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i've tried to like XTC but i've never heard a song of theirs that was even borderline rememberable.

I can understand not liking them, XTC can be an aquired taste, but not memorable? I don't see how that's possible. Especially the English Settlement/Black Sea/Big Express era.

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Primus? Really, Chris? Every album I've ever heard has a couple of killer songs, but then the rest do nothing for me. Regardless, Les is pretty awesome.

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Yeah, I pretty much feel that way now---I was a huge fan back in the day;

Despite climbing on board basically when Frizzle Fry came out, I now think that their best actual record is Pork Soda. After that, they have written about 4 good songs, most notably "Southbound Pacaderm" from Tales From The Punchbowl.


This came about because I was actually listening to XTC and decided to check out the Primus version; it has a really cool sound. I think they recorded that Miscelaneous Debris album to fulfill some sort of contractual obligation; it must have been recorded in a semi-el cheapo studio because it is mic'ed and mixed very strangely.

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I haven't heard the Primus version since the early 90s, but they automatically lose for having terrible lyrics (<-- far worse than Weird Al) in all of their original tunes. Oh, and I think Les is an awful singer. XTC, up to and including Black Sea, is pretty sweet.

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Despite climbing on board basically when Frizzle Fry came out, I now think that their best actual record is Pork Soda.

I think that trio of albums is excellent, still (Frizzle Fry/Sailing the Seas of Cheese/Pork Soda) but have completely lost interest in everything since then . . . except for Claypool's solo album, Highball with the Devil, which I think is better than anything else Primus did.

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chase Wrote:
i've tried to like XTC but i've never heard a song of theirs that was even borderline rememberable.


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I haven't heard the Primus version since the early 90s, but they automatically lose for having terrible lyrics (<-- far worse than Weird Al) in all of their original tunes.


"Jerry was race car driver,
twenty-two(?) years old,
one too many cold baers one night
wrapped himself around a telephone pole">>>mad bass thumping.

shame on you.

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Primus is one of those bands that I really liked in college, but now... erm, not so much. No doubt Les is a great bass player, but the music just doesn't appeal to me anymore. That said, I've never heard Primus' take on either the XTC or the Floyd song. The thing with cover versions for me is that it needs to be (a) a complete replica of the original version or (b) so drastically different from the original that you wouldn't recognize it.


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I can think of at least 50 XTC songs I think are rememorable.

As for Primus, well they loved by me, too.

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BTW, I think Primus' version of Have a Cigar is better than Floyd's as well.
Next thing you're going to tell me, that version of Animals by Claypool and ensemble didn't suck.

Bluntly: you're high.

But I did like the version of "Making Plans for Nigel" by Nouvelle Vague. It's not superior so much as different. A change of pace.

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Natural Mike Wrote:
I haven't heard the Primus version since the early 90s, but they automatically lose for having terrible lyrics (<-- far worse than Weird Al) in all of their original tunes.


"Jerry was race car driver,
twenty-two(?) years old,
one too many cold beers one night
wrapped himself around a telephone pole">>>mad bass thumping.

shame on you.


Wait...is that supposed to be an example of good Primus lyrics?

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I can think of at least 50 XTC songs I think are rememorable.

Yeh, but you gotta admit even their best stuff is just, like, singing and melodies and notes and shit. Not much memorable about any of that sorta thing.


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It is not even close... the original by XTC is one of the great grooves, cerebral and deperate, fatalistic cranky dark and poisonous loping walking blues... with partridge-sweet being the graduate talking about plastics in the guise of british steel... XTC is brilliant through that last "dual release." Y'all are nuts.

Primus was never more (despite Claypool's thunder) more than a high-quality frat party band.

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chase Wrote:
i've tried to like XTC but i've never heard a song of theirs that was even borderline rememberable.

I can understand not liking them, XTC can be an aquired taste, but not memorable? I don't see how that's possible. Especially the English Settlement/Black Sea/Big Express era.


i've lisetened to English Settlement about 4-5 times and don't remember a single song.

i know "dear god" that's about it.
(and the primus versio of "nigel")

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chase Wrote:
i've tried to like XTC but i've never heard a song of theirs that was even borderline rememberable.

I can understand not liking them, XTC can be an aquired taste, but not memorable? I don't see how that's possible. Especially the English Settlement/Black Sea/Big Express era.


Yup.

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the xtc disinterest on this board astounds me.


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FYI - "Nigel" was written by the oft-neglected Colin Moulding.

Shameless plug for a friend, but it relates to this thread: Click here to listen to "Dates," song and vocal by R. Stevie Moore, all instruments played by Ex-TC Dave Gregory.

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