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I read the Pixies are thinking about recording again. Would this negate them knowing when to call it quits?

Nope. They knew when to call it quits. They also know when to reconvene in order to make a shitload of coin.


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New Bomb Turks - "Night Before The Day The Earth Stood Still" doesn't punch you in the face/kick you in the balls like other releases, but still some damn good tunes on there.

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didnt bob mould and grant hart have a huge falling out, and wasnt that the reason the band broke up?

also....faith no more - were they really the same after jim martin left?


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didnt bob mould and grant hart have a huge falling out, and wasnt that the reason the band broke up?

Hmm, well, you might be right there. Still, it seems to me to count as a decision to break up.

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also....faith no more - were they really the same after jim martin left?

No, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. My two favorite FNM albums are the two post-Martin ones, actually. While I love the earlier ones and understand why most people would pick those, if in an FNM mood, I'm grabbing King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime and Album of the Year.

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scottycash99 Wrote:
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Sugar
Husker Du
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Soul Coughing
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Faith No More
Quicksand
Thought Industry


didnt bob mould and grant hart have a huge falling out, and wasnt that the reason the band broke up?

also....faith no more - were they really the same after jim martin left?

Well, if you dig deep you might find that a bunch of the bands people have listed quit over the dreaded "creative differences". Bottom like, Husker Du made the decision not to go on as a band. Nobody died or anything.

As far as Faith No More, Album of the Year is a good album and not an embarrassing way to go out.

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i wasnt attacking those particular selections, just curious as to their inclusion.


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also....faith no more - were they really the same after jim martin left?

No, but that's not necessarily a bad thing. My two favorite FNM albums are the two post-Martin ones, actually. While I love the earlier ones and understand why most people would pick those, if in an FNM mood, I'm grabbing King for a Day, Fool for a Lifetime and Album of the Year.

I definately like them more post-martin. That 2nd (mr bungle too) guitarist is one of my favorite 2 or 3, even though I can never remember his name. He married the girlfriend of a guy we georgians went to highschool with, by the way.

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Premiador.

Todos los otros, sientense.

Could someone hook me with a translation please? Bitch doesn't have the cojones to insult me in English, apparently. ;)


I think he's giving you props, although I'm not sure that premiador is a word.

My best guess is

"Premium.

All the others, sit down."

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Does Neutral Milk Hotel fall into this category, since Jeff Mangum basically walked away from the biz. In the Aeroplane over the sea is a masterpiece, and put them on the map.


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also....faith no more - were they really the same after jim martin left?


i think patton, bottum and bordin were the main guys that held the band together. martin was pretty replaceable and in my opinion was just there to play guitar and look goofy.

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The Smashing Pumpkins - Machina


Borg. Seriously. They should have quit after Siamese Dream. That would have been a high point. Quitting after Mellon Collie, that'd be a slight denouement. Quitting after Adore would have disqualified them from this list, but quitting after Machina? Buddy, I know you love it, but I don't for the life of me understand what you hear that flips you out.

They were a great band that had some serious personality flaws and personnel woes, but the height of their musical greatness was 91-94. No more, no less.

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And taking out a full page ad in the Chicago Tribune talking about how he's going to revive Smashing Pumpkins after a mere 5 years that followed a really drastic drop in consistency for the last 6 years of the band's existence... that's not knowing when to call it quits.

unless he's calling it quits on his solo album that you're carrying a torch for. Shit, he's moving back to the Pumpkins after that pile of feces had been released for a week or two? Even he knows how bad it is.

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Borg. Seriously. They should have quit after Siamese Dream. That would have been a high point. Quitting after Mellon Collie, that'd be a slight denouement. Quitting after Adore would have disqualified them from this list, but quitting after Machina? Buddy, I know you love it, but I don't for the life of me understand what you hear that flips you out.


Well, I avoided Machina for a long time after I became a Pumpkins fan because almost every review written about it tore it to shreds. I honestly couldn't find one person who liked it, even when I chatted with Pumpkins fans.

My first Pumpkins purchase was Adore, and naturally I had a bias towards that period of their career. There I was, smack in the middle of the Flood era. Well, out of curiosity I downloaded some Machina songs one day and was surprised to find that I really liked them, a lot. It was the complete opposite of Siamese Dream - slick, self-consciously epic and it sounded nothing like a traditional alternative rock band. Siamese Dream is classic, but I also enjoy Machina for being its own unique beast. When I listen to Machina, I hear brilliant song after brilliant song, but I can see why old-school Pumpkins fans might not like what they became.

I can't objectively convince anyone that Machina is good - I simply like what Flood did to them after Siamese Dream. Someone people love/hate Mellon Collie, some love/hate Adore, but even though everyone hates Machina, I still love it and listen to it on a monthly basis.


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I still don't get it, but that was a decent rationalization of your love of Machina. With the right staff, you could have a future in politics.

They still don't belong in this thread, especially with that full page ad business.

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Well, they are on "indefinite hiatus"...

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Boo Radleys - Kingsize

Some people slag on it, but I think it's a damn good pop record. Damn good.


So fucking OTM PopTodd. My choice for number one album from the 90s.

I had a chance to write about this album last month on ILM and will repost that along with a replay.

The Boo Radleys – Wake UP! C/D (91 matching messages)



"Just a simple song but God I love it Embedded in me, so bittersweet" from 'Jimmy Webb is God.'

That just about tells it all. I could write out a three-page review of why I love Kingsize but will cut it down and try not to get too personal.

I had just about giving up on trying to find someone, anyone on this earth who thought this is by far the best thing the boos have ever done. Than because of the anthology album Find Your Way Out that is coming out (July 4) the question came up on bravecaptain board, what is the best album? To my shock and amazement this beat ever other album easily when I thought it would be Giant Steps that would win.

First my criticism of this album is that 'Free Huey' does not work. In fact I always thought I hated this song but it’s not bad on its own. So I am so use to skipping this song every time I play the album it doesn’t even feel to me like it’s part of it.

I have always been drawn to powerful music that seems to draw me in and speak to my inter soul. When you can relate to ever single song on an album than you know you have something special. With age comes wisdom and everything just seem to come together perfectly for this album. Martin Carr has never written better lyrics before or after this period in his life. So I can understand this album not speaking for a lot of people but for the few it has it seems to have really made a certain connection.

It made me laugh that someone said that he felt like this was a Christian rock album. Martin is not a religious man but did write songs that might seem that way but really they are about drugs and friendship. "Now we’ve high as monkeys Now we’ve come so far You and I are simple friends no more Now we’re high as monkeys Opened a few doors Let the sunshine crash into our souls …Thinking fast and feeling free And there’s no one who can touch me Higher than the universe itself Thanks I don’t need no help."

'Kingsize' is the Boo Radleys best song and is a powerful statement when they have a song called 'Lazarus' but is true. I always felt that song would be the song I dedicate to my wife someday…

Their best ever single is on this album as well but was never released as such or on the UK version of this album. 'Put Your Arms Around Me And Tell Me Everything’s Going To Be OK' is pure pop genius, IMO.

'The Future Is Now' is also a peek into what he would be doing next with bravecaptain stuff. 'Song From The Blue Room' is a much better or perfect ending for this album however.

So I do understand many, many people not getting or liking this album. I also feel it doesn’t reveal itself for a bit and could be a bit off putting a first. The rewards are so much greater in the end but could be just me.

Deon

-- BeeOK June 7th, 2005 11:25 PM.

I completely agree with Bee that Kingsize only reveals itself to be their best album after a fair few plays. I can understand if people give up before that stage, but it really is worth it. I was co-running the Boo fanclub at the time (had been since around the re-release of Lazarus), and I remember that for the first time, I wasn’t very taken with the early versions of the songs I was playing. The band didn’t seem too happy either, although I think they were just getting tired of a lot of things rather than being unhappy with the music. Up until that point, everything had seemed effortless for them – they would breeze into a studio and knock things out at a fantastic rate. It all just *happened*. But Kingsize seemed like more of a slog.

When I check back, the finished album tracks were almost the same as the ones I was having a hard time with – simple things like good sequencing brought the album to life a bit. Free Huey and Kingsize were grafted on as late additions (ironically the worst and best tracks). The early demo of Kingsize was drone-pop, and sounded like early Spiritualized, who Martin used to adore.

It was heartbreaking that they split on the back of such a great album. But if no-one is buying your records, what can you do?

-- Ian Edmond June 7th, 2005 8:13 AM.

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I SO need more Boos. All I own are the last 2.
I knew I was forgetting somthing I wanted on my last shopping trip. Giant Steps would have been so much more worth it than de nova, as good as that record is.

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