The Inaugural 2005 NFL Thread: Put Up Or Shut Up

Patrick Bateman · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:03 pm

i'm seriously floored that 2 of you have the falcons going to the big game and one actually has them winning it
i'll post mine in a bit

el_scorcho · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:15 pm

AFC:
North- Stillers
South- Colts
East- Pats
West- Chargers

Wild cards- Jets, Ravens

NFC:
North- Vikings
South- Falcons
East- Eagles
West- Cardinals

Wild cards- Cowboys, Green Bay

AFC Wild card games: Pats over Jets, Chargers over Ravens
Next round: Steelers over Pats, Colts over Chargers
AFC Championship: Colts over Steelers

NFC wild Card- Green Bay over Vikings, Cowboys over Cardinals
Next Round- Eagles over Cowboys, Atlanta over Green Bay
NFC Champ- EAgles over Atlanta

Super Bowl: Eagles over Colts 31-14

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:24 pm

elephantstone Wrote:

Quote:

If they trade for Ricky Williams, they'll win the NFC's weakest division.

???

where have you heard even a rumor of this?

Good lord, man. I heard this last night and I don't even attempt to follow the NFL.

Damen · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:21 am

I'm shocked the Chargers are getting as much play as they are. They won the division last year with 2 victories vs above 500 teams & 1 only of those was a playoff team. And if you saw that game you know Denver handed it to them in the final minutes after the Broncos had beat them in Mile High. The schedule isn't as favorable this year. They have to go to NY & play a Jets team who beat them twice in SD last year (including in the playoffs), to Foxboro, to Indy & to Philly & home vs Pittsburgh & Buffalo. That plus the 2 with Denver give them 8 games vs quality opponets, last year counting the playoff loss they they went 2-5 vs quality opponents with both victories with at home. That means they have 2 more regular season games vs good teams, 2 more potential losses. And the 4 victories vs the combined 12-20 KC & Oak won't be as easy this year

e-stone · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:34 am

Elvis Fu Wrote:

elephantstone Wrote:

Quote:

If they trade for Ricky Williams, they'll win the NFC's weakest division.

???

where have you heard even a rumor of this?

Good lord, man. I heard this last night and I don't even attempt to follow the NFL.

still waiting for a source or link....

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:41 am

I can try and recite what I heard on the radio.

e-stone · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:43 am

there's nothing on the vikings or dolphins message board over on espn...nothing on google...nothing on the herald.com. in other words...nothing to worry about. there will be no trade until the end of this season.

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:48 am

Nothing to worry about because Ronnie Brown is good shit and Ricky Williams is finished.

Billzebub · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 10:26 pm **Posts:** 6459

Elvis Fu Wrote:

Nothing to worry about because Ronnie Brown is good shit and Ricky Williams is finished.

Which is why they'll trade him. The fantasy guys on Foxsports were writing about this. Makes sense--too much bad chemistry in Miami, and a solid alternative who's already got to start the first four games.

Minnesota doesn't seem to give a crap about chemistry, nor about dealing with RB's serving four game suspensions. The purple backfield is a mess.

e-stone · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:15 am

but they won't trade him until the end of the season. it's pretty well known in south florida that this is the plan.
he's already been welcomed back open arms by the team/media/fans. his best chance for a continued nfl career is to have a solid nfl season and hope he gets some interest (looking at you, al davis) at the end of this season. miami is paying him next to nothing this year...there is no reason to trade now. and there is no reason not to have a ronnie brown/ricky williams backfield this season.

e-stone · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 1:17 am

and the bad chemistry in miami was all wannstedt. things are much different under saban, already.

Patrick Bateman · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 2:13 am

AFC
East-Pats
West-Oakland
North-Steelers
South-Colts

Wild cards- Bills, Bengals

NFC
East- Eagles
West- Rams
North- Packers
South- Atlanta

Wild cards- Detroit, Dallas

AFC Wild card games: Pats over Bengals, Bills over Steelers
Next round: Pats over Oakland, Colts over Bills
AFC Championship: Colts over Pats

NFC wild Card- Detroit over Packers, Dallas over Atlanta
Next Round- Eagles over Cowboys, Detroit over Rams
NFC Champ- Eagles over Detroit

Super Bowl: Colts over Eagles

ps, i havent heard anything about a williams to minny trade anywhere, and my homepage is a site that is pretty good at reporting stuff like that when its in the very early stages...
www.profootballtalk.com
check it out

gauchebag · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:43 am

Yail Bloor Wrote:

cmanhatan4 Wrote:

Why are the Vikings such a trendy pick? I hope people keep having faith in this misguided team. They're the VIKINGS. They always find a way to blow it. The only big game they've won is beating the Packers this past year. MAybe that was the turning point in their history, but they've always been failures and I don't expect this year to be any different.

NFC NORTH: Packers.

That's the only pick I'll give right now.

The Vikings are a solid pick because they have 3 front-line running backs, a Top 5 QB, a monster O-line, and a completely revitalized Defense; coaching is the Vikings only potential weakness (which, sorry to all my Loozeeanna brothers----this is why I can't pick the Saints to do anything better than 8-8, coaching wil buy you a couple wins and teams like the Vikings and Saints----BLECH. *vomits*

I don't see how one could have faith in Tice. He's always found a way to blow it no matter how much luck falls into their laps. The inventor of "The Randy Ratio." Appeasement is not how to topple a dictator. Maybe he's learned though and it's finally time for this troubled franchise to step back into the spotlight. I'm just not yet a believer. Maybe this season will do some convincing (probably one of the weakest, though most competitive division in football.)

1. Packers
2. Vikings
3. Lions
4. Bears

I don't think it will look any different than that. The Pack and the Vikes will be neck and neck, and even though Vikes have long been Favre's nemesis he will overcome somehow, even if it takes an Arizona Cardinal fluke interception touchdown return or whatever it was to win the division one last time.

Sketch · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 3:48 am

I think Moss' departure will make the Vikes a better team. Tice can put the offensive focus on Daunte, where it's always belonged.

MontyTheMongoose · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:36 am

AFC:

West - Broncos

South - Jaguars

North - Bengals

East - Jets

wildcard(s): Bills, Patriots

NFC:

West - Rams

South - Falcons

North - Lions

East - Eagles

wildcard(s): Cardinals, Redskins

AFC Championship: Bengals over Patriots

NFC Championship: Eagles over Rams

Super Bowl XL: Bengals 24, Eagles 17

... Mark it, Dude

Diggity Dawg · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 10:49 am

AFC :

West : Chiefs
East : Pats
North : Steelers
South : Colts
Wild Cards : Bengals, Texans :shock:

NFC :

East : Eagles
North : Packers
South : Falcons
West : Seahawks
Wild Cards : Cardinals, Panthers

AFC Championship Game : Chiefs 38, Colts 35
NFC Championship Game : Eagles 27, Falcons 24

Super Bowl : Chiefs 31, Eagles 24

2 Minutes After Super Bowl : People start calling the Eagles the Bills of the 00's.

Senator LooGAR · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:03 am

Sketch Wrote:

I think Moss' departure will make the Vikes a better team. Tice can put the offensive focus on Daunte, where it's always belonged.

WRONG!!!!

Sketch · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:23 am

Sen. Z-Grade LooGAR Wrote:

WRONG!!!!

And you neglected to call another panelist or give the correct answer. Some McLaughlin you are...

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:54 am

cmanhatan4 Wrote:

NFC NORTH: Packers.

That's the only pick I'll give right now.

Go Pack. I love how Favre is calling out Javon Walker publicly.

Busty Rhodes · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 11:57 am

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

cmanhatan4 Wrote:

NFC NORTH: Packers.

That's the only pick I'll give right now.

Go Pack. I love how Favre is calling out Javon Walker publicly.

Trader

paladisiac · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:01 pm

Busty Rhodes Wrote:

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

cmanhatan4 Wrote:

NFC NORTH: Packers.

That's the only pick I'll give right now.

Go Pack. I love how Favre is calling out Javon Walker publicly.

Trader

traitor

[editted to keep from feeling too stupid]

Sketch · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:03 pm

TRAITOR

Cap'n Squirrgle · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:04 pm

Busty Rhodes Wrote:

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

cmanhatan4 Wrote:

NFC NORTH: Packers.

That's the only pick I'll give right now.

Go Pack. I love how Favre is calling out Javon Walker publicly.

Trader

I think he's referring to my love of trading pogs.

But seriously, I didn't enjoying watching NFL until the Packers. It's the environment up here... there's nothing better going on, and people just get into it more.

But Vick is VERY entertaining. I enjoy him.

MontyTheMongoose · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:04 pm

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

cmanhatan4 Wrote:

NFC NORTH: Packers.

That's the only pick I'll give right now.

Go Pack. I love how Favre is calling out Javon Walker publicly.

RACIST.

nacho · **Posted:** Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:17 pm

Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:

But seriously, I didn't enjoying watching NFL until the Packers. It's the environment up here... there's nothing better going on, and people just get into it more.

Buffalo (my hometown) is very similar, the whole town lives and dies with the team.

And I'm pleasantly surprised so many people here picked the Bills to either win the division or make the playoffs. You guys have higher expectations than I do. I have a bad feeling JP Losman is gonna have some growing pains that will cost them some wins, especially early in the season. Though I do think Kelly Holcomb, if given a shot (I say he gets one by week 5) could produce nicely. Either way, I'd be absolutely thrilled with a wild card.

On the Ricky trade scenario, I don't see the 'fins trading him until after the season. His trade value is at rock bottom right now. After the season, if he has a return to form, they could get a ton more for him.

P.S. I hate the dolphins

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