Led Zeppelin

alongwaltz. · **Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2005 12:35 am

DHRjericho Wrote:

It seems to me that quite a few people here don't like Zep because of the people that typically do like them.

I'll admit that's the reason I've never given artists like Sublime or Bob Marley a fair shake. I always associated them with the the stoner kids and thus never gave them a real chance.

harry · **Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2005 1:08 am

alongdrive Wrote:

DHRjericho Wrote:

It seems to me that quite a few people here don't like Zep because of the people that typically do like them.

I'll admit that's the reason I've never given artists like Sublime or Bob Marley a fair shake. I always associated them with the the stoner kids and thus never gave them a real chance.

Well yes, and no. I am not thrilled with people who leave Creed in the cd player ... but I also do not like Creed very much. One can disitinguish.

Kit · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:47 pm **Posts:** 3052

What can I say. I like the SOZA album. I bought it back in 1997 thinking I wasn't going to like it but wanted to see what the big deal was. It was a pretty big CD for me that year - 26 years after it came out. Haven't listened to it much since then tho.

jewels santana · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:36 pm **Posts:** 10198

alongdrive Wrote:

DHRjericho Wrote:

It seems to me that quite a few people here don't like Zep because of the people that typically do like them.

I'll admit that's the reason I've never given artists like Sublime or Bob Marley a fair shake. I always associated them with the the stoner kids and thus never gave them a real chance.

for the love of god give bob marley a chance.
he probably has about 200 songs you would love.

and i know nothing about the music you listen to.

Dick Meatwood · **Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2005 2:05 pm

alongdrive Wrote:

I'll admit that's the reason I've never given artists like Sublime or Bob Marley a fair shake. I always associated them with the the stoner kids and thus never gave them a real chance.

It's funny, I've had always had a problem liking both of those, but the reasons are a little different. I don't give a shit about distancing myself from "stoner kids" (mainly because I was one for a little while) or assuming that the tastes of people I don't like are inferior to mine. I liked Sublime at first, but then they got overplayed as shit. (I also think they were overrated as shit.) Bob Marley on the other hand was always getting shoved down my throat when I was hanging out with certain people, and so I've never had the urge to listen to him on my own until very recently.

I mean, I know I'm guilty of avoiding the whole jam-band thing (Phish, Widespread, etc.) because of my aversion that whole crowd of fans. But I think it's pretty important as a music fan, if you want anyone to take your opinions seriously, (I know a lot of you "don't give a fuck" and might jump all over me for saying this) to get over that and just judge the music for what it is rather than who embraces it. I haven't managed to do that myself, but I do think it's worthwhile to try. I'd rather be surprised by finding that I like something I thought I hated than just to be able to go on talking shit to people about how shitty their tastes/lifestyle is and how listening to certain music puts them in a "dumb" crowd.

thisotherkingdom · **Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:48 pm

I can't remember the last time I put on a Zeppelin CD to listen to (used to love 'em back in high school), but I certainly don't hate them. And for some reason, I still have like 3 Zeppelin t-shirts that I still wear frequently.

alongwaltz. · **Posted:** Sat Jul 30, 2005 9:02 pm

Sloan Wrote:

It's not the band I hate, it's the fans

I do try/am trying to be more open about that and just judge music and music alone. But the fans really make it hard. Bands like Nirvana and Death Cab are/were torn with having these guys in the crowd that would beat them up in highschool. They really didn't want to have anything to do with them, but sometimes you don't have much of a chance.

Regardless, I don't mind Sublime but I don't think I'd buy anything from them. I'm sure I should look into Bob Marley but he's still near the bottom of my list of artists I want to check out. Not as a knock against him, I'm just not much of a reggae guy, plain and simple.

And back to the initial discussion, I just don't like LZ's music. Their fans are my family so I can't hate them. I'm just not too much into their songs. Then again, I don't like the Beatles either. But I try not to mention that much because the backlash and criticism it evokes bores me to tears.

The Mayor of Simpleton · **Posted:** Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:51 pm

alongdrive Wrote:

I'm sure I should look into Bob Marley but he's still near the bottom of my list of artists I want to check out. Not as a knock against him, I'm just not much of a reggae guy, plain and simple.

I'm not a reggae guy either but I do like Marley - he's not "just reggae." I just put him under the huge umbrella of "rock" because his music transcends the genre to me. It's more important than just being reggae, I mean. There's some fantastic stuff in his catalog that I would think almost any open-minded rock fan would like. Catch a Fire is freaking amazing.

alongdrive Wrote:

And back to the initial discussion, I just don't like LZ's music. Their fans are my family so I can't hate them. I'm just not too much into their songs. Then again, I don't like the Beatles either. But I try not to mention that much because the backlash and criticism it evokes bores me to tears.

You don't have to like Zep, but I think saying "I've never met anyone with good taste in music who likes Led Zeppelin. Or anyone who likes Led Zeppelin that I'd give any credibility towards" is pretty presumptuous and pretentious, don't you? Replace Zep with any band you like and tell me that doesn't sound totally conceited.

Dusty Chalk · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:18 am

Mot Wrote:

You don't have to like Britney, but I think saying "I've never met anyone with good taste in music who likes Britney Spears. Or anyone who likes Britney Spears that I'd give any credibility towards" is pretty presumptuous and pretentious, don't you? Replace Spears with any band you like and tell me that doesn't sound totally conceited.

Nope, still works.

J/K...

shiv · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 2:44 am

I have Houses Of The Holy and I like maybe 2 songs off it. Other than that, I have no use for them.

andyfest · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:28 am

Sen. Z-Grade LooGAR Wrote:

andyfest Wrote:

Sen. Z-Grade LooGAR Wrote:

I know Bloor, Busty, Derris and Dalen are with me on this one:

Go to a crowded bar

Put on Led Zeppelin II aka THE BROWN BOMBER

watch the place go instantly crazy

then tell me you don't like this band.

I think this would probably hurt my perception of the band.

That's right, because of people like them, you are obligated to hate them.

Buster.

Someone has finally pegged me. I didn't think it would ever happen.

Busty Rhodes · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 11:33 am

andyfest Wrote:

Sen. Z-Grade LooGAR Wrote:

andyfest Wrote:

Sen. Z-Grade LooGAR Wrote:

I know Bloor, Busty, Derris and Dalen are with me on this one:

Go to a crowded bar

Put on Led Zeppelin II aka THE BROWN BOMBER

watch the place go instantly crazy

then tell me you don't like this band.

I think this would probably hurt my perception of the band.

That's right, because of people like them, you are obligated to hate them.

Buster.

Someone has finally pegged me. I didn't think it would ever happen.

Wow. A buster AND quick whitted. Nice.

A Northern Soul · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:23 pm **Posts:** 3742

i learned to drum by listening to custard pie over and over. and i can still listen to it and love it. whatever you think of their music, you can fuck with the fact that jimmy page and john bonham are incredible musicians.

jewels santana · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:36 pm **Posts:** 10198

Northern Soul Wrote:

i learned to drum by listening to custard pie over and over. and i can still listen to it and love it. whatever you think of their music, you can fuck with the fact that jimmy page and john bonham are incredible musicians.

john paul jones was pretty amazing too.

if you haven't seen the acoustic section of the DVD, check it out. He does all the cool acoustic parts on Led Zeppelin III.

juice · **Posted:** Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:33 pm

Mot Wrote:

I'm not a reggae guy either but I do like Marley - he's not "just reggae." I just put him under the huge umbrella of "rock" because his music transcends the genre to me. It's more important than just being reggae, I mean. There's some fantastic stuff in his catalog that I would think almost any open-minded rock fan would like. Catch a Fire is freaking amazing.

I just picked up Catch a Fire on vinyl over the weekend. And yes, amazing it is.

jewels santana · **Joined:** Thu Nov 04, 2004 2:36 pm **Posts:** 10198

the first disk of the marley box set is the one that made me realize i didn't understand the man at all.

RolledMeat · **Posted:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:55 pm

jagged Wrote:

growing up in OKC, there was only one radio station that was even close to being listenable...and they played the shit out of Led Zep

and that's my problem with them...I was beat over the head with Zepplin rock blocks and Led Zep all-request hours for many years and that's sucked most of the enjoyment out of the music for me

it's not about being too indie for Plant and the fellas...I just have no interest in hearing their music

Hell yeah! The KATT with Greg Zubek and the Bladerunner! Man, that station sucked but I have a lot of memories associated with it.

I really like Led Zeppelin but I don't care to listen much to the 10 songs that the aforementioned DJs pushed down my throat. Their recently released live DVD and BBC recordings are really good.

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