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Notre Dame fired football coach Tyrone Willingham after three seasons, the school announced Tuesday.

Willingham had a record of 21-15, including 6-5 this season.

It is not immediately clear whether Willingham would coach the team at the Insight Bowl on Dec. 28. Notre Dame accepted the invitation to the game on Sunday.

Athletic director Kevin White was to hold a news conference on the firing later Tuesday.

i gotta say, this is a load of crap.


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Bad move, do they really think they're in the Urban Meyer sweepstakes..after all wasn't Ty the black Urban Meyer of three years ago?

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butch davis is available too........


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butch davis is available too........


That's true, and probably a more likely candidate.

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My prediction

Urban Meyer --> Notre Dame

Butch Davis --> Florida

Ron Zook --> Kentucky

Bobby Bowden --> Hell

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I've heard Ohio State might put itself in the running for Pope Urban in the near future

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Willingham had a record of 21-15


Remember when he was like 9-0?

This sucks. I really really liked Ty at Stanford (3rd fave college football team) & met a guy who played for him at Rice who said he was an amazing coach & great guy (Ty was his DB coach). I think he can do it, I mean they beat Michigan & Tennesse. I was actually talking to a friend a Miami alum yesterday & I told him the difference between ND of today & Holtz era is Barry Alvarez who was an awesome def cor, Vinny Cerrato who could recruit the fuck out of the country & lower academic standards. I don't think Chris Zorich & his vocational HS diploma would land him in ND today. If they want to compete with USC they have to lower their standards to USC's level. USC has a freshman who can't play since he hasn't gotten 800 on his SAT yet. When USC was bad in the mid 90's their academic standards were high, late 80's they were low & the team rocked. Don't get me wrong, Chow & Carrol deserve tons of credit, but you gotta be able to land some dummies to win in football. I think that's why Ty was so attractive to ND, he beat USC with tough standards at Stanford. How did it not workout, it was a perfect match on paper?


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urban is going to be a domer. shit...


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Willingham had a record of 21-15


Remember when he was like 9-0?

This sucks. I really really liked Ty at Stanford (3rd fave college football team) & met a guy who played for him at Rice who said he was an amazing coach & great guy (Ty was his DB coach). I think he can do it, I mean they beat Michigan & Tennesse. I was actually talking to a friend a Miami alum yesterday & I told him the difference between ND of today & Holtz era is Barry Alvarez who was an awesome def cor, Vinny Cerrato who could recruit the fuck out of the country & lower academic standards. I don't think Chris Zorich & his vocational HS diploma would land him in ND today. If they want to compete with USC they have to lower their standards to USC's level. USC has a freshman who can't play since he hasn't gotten 800 on his SAT yet. When USC was bad in the mid 90's their academic standards were high, late 80's they were low & the team rocked. Don't get me wrong, Chow & Carrol deserve tons of credit, but you gotta be able to land some dummies to win in football. I think that's why Ty was so attractive to ND, he beat USC with tough standards at Stanford. How did it not workout, it was a perfect match on paper?
I think my fellow Georgia fans are with me in saying we do not give a fuck if a guy is retarded. Football players aren't coming to Georgia to get an education. They are coming here to make me a happy drunk instead of the guy who is forced to belittle others in order to make up for his football team's shortcomings. Pay the players give 'em cars I really don't care. If ND doesn't take this approach they will NEVER win 10 games again.

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Good. I'll take him at Washington. Let's bring Ty back to the Pac 10 where he belongs.


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i can't wait to hear what type of racial spin michael wilbon puts on this on "pti" tonight.


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you guys just reminded me why i think i might prefer division II and division III ball - at least having the illusion of the student athlete.

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Lou Holtz is available. Coincidence???

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"Don't believe the hype!"


I just heard on The Zone that Urban has 3 "outs" in his contract one of which is Dame...so lookslike they get the guy named after the Popes...good fit I guess.

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you guys just reminded me why i think i might prefer division II and division III ball - at least having the illusion of the student athlete.


my alma mater, Linfield College, is moving into the Division 3 quarter finals on Saturday - it is a lot of fun to watch.


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Urban is for sure a candidate---though he does have Florida ties....

Wisconsin should get their checkbooks out, b/c N.D. will come calling on Coach Alvarez....

Stanford just fired their coach yesterday, any chance they bring Ty back?

Or maybe he goes to be an assistant coach with his old buddy Denny Green in Arizona and start working up the NFL ladder

Or maybe he sits on that buyout cash and does some TV

I'm sorry they didn't give Ty a longer shot (5 years is fair), but dude is PAID--this thing works both ways

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you guys just reminded me why i think i might prefer division II and division III ball - at least having the illusion of the student athlete.


my alma mater, Linfield College, is moving into the Division 3 quarter finals on Saturday - it is a lot of fun to watch.


And mine ( Pittsburg State University ) continues to roll thru the D2 playoffs, setting scoring records. Awwww yeah. 8)


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you guys just reminded me why i think i might prefer division II and division III ball - at least having the illusion of the student athlete.


or is it b/c D-II and D-III are more "indie"

Seriously student athlete is just what you say--an illusion.

The coaches are mercenaries--if they win they will get a better job and leave the kids they recruited; if they lose they get fired---and leave the kids they recruited....

but what the fuck do the kids care? They are only auditioning for a job (pros) like every single fucking college student whether you are an athlete btwpro scouts know where small schoolsare), in a professional degree program, or a debutante sucking MBA cock at a frat mixer looking to become a trophy wife

Everybody just lookin for that cheddar

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Not that JoePa would resign ever, but his leaving would make this off-season even more interesting. My buddy has an interesting theory revolving around Neuheisel, but we'll see...


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i hate this. the timing of it makes it seem like he could have kept the job had he beaten USC. did anyone look at that team and think that they could beat usc? is he being punnished for them being at the recent peak of their program? i don't know, but that team's ass and i'm not sure if he was the cause or the cure of it.


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