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 Post subject: Killing Yourself to Live - Chuck Klosterman
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has anyone been reading this? His last one kinda dragged in spots for me, but this I'm almost done right now, and so far it's been cracking me up. There's a lotta hack writing in there (which he openly admits - good for him), and he missed some things (how someone writing a story on rock deaths doesn't visit Al Jackson Jr's house is beyond me), but still, it's the kinda book i stay up until 4 reading for 3 nights in a row and not even realize it. I love how he divides the Spin staff into the "coke sniffing Interpol fans" and the "pot smoking Creedence fans". I dunno, it reads to me like such a "confessions of a music nerd" that I assumed everyone here would be ripping through it.

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shit. didnt even know it was out.

I'll be stopping by B&N on the way home.

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I read the excerpts that were in SPIN last year so I'm gonna pick it up soon, I've enjoyed both his books and just finished reading Fargo Rock City again.

I can't comment on hack writing as I don't know what it is.

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i'm thinking mostly of the extremely self-aware segment in which he has three imaginary girlfriends in the car with him lecturing him on his foibles, (which he describes as being "Eggers-esque" or some such thing) and a few other parts where he just gets ahead of himself.

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shit. didnt even know it was out.

I'll be stopping by B&N on the way home.


don't you mean "I'll have the Senator stop by and pick this up, read it this week, and bring it to me when he's in town in 2 weeks"?

^

A dude who hasn't bought a book in 5 years.

I tried to get this at Books A Million a week or so ago, they supposedly had one copy but the illiterate trogoldyte who worked there couldn't find it, and of course had never heard of Klosterman, but was able to reccomend some books from the Left Behind series for me.

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Not fair, I buy 3 or 4 books a year, but why buy more? You buy 50 or 60 and then drop them off at Redlands.

BTW, I just reserved a copy at B&N so I'll have it when you come in in a couple weeks. Punk.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Not fair, I buy 3 or 4 books a year, but why buy more? You buy 50 or 60 and then drop them off at Redlands.

BTW, I just reserved a copy at B&N so I'll have it when you come in in a couple weeks. Punk.


NOICE! I was gonna swing by and pick it up tonite, but I think I shall now hold out.

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Asked my mom to pick it up for me this weekend (long story)... came back with "Cocoa Puffs" instead - I mean, after all, I wouldn't have asked her for a hardcover now, would I? I reread that one, so I'll probably be "Killing" some time this weekend....

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finished this on my lunch break. the ending is kinda weak, but these kinda books rarely do otherwise.

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Enjoyed "Cocoa Puffs" a good bit will pick the new one up shortly. Yail let me borrow "Fargo" This weekend but I left it in the throughs of a killer hangover. Should have let him put it in my car when he asked.

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Need to pick this up, the dude is a fun read.

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Need to pick this up, the dude is a fun read.


Never thought I'd see another Milwaukeean say that.

Klosterman seemed too earnest and honest to get a fair hearing in this burg, I mean. Prolly still doesn't.

We either like our genuinity chintz'd* up so much as to be a contrivance -- ergo, the Frogs -- or our pretention to seem down-to-earth -- ergo, the Promise Ring.

Truth doesn't do well here.

*Sometimes, I do like the chintz, though. The pageantry, the gallantry, the masquerade. The party.


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Picked this up last night, cos I am mad at myself for not reading more.

Yail, have you gotten it yet? anyone reccomend it/have thoughts?

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Sen. Domestication LooGAR Wrote:
anyone reccomend it/have thoughts?


you mean other than me?

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Sen. Domestication LooGAR Wrote:
anyone reccomend it/have thoughts?


you mean other me?


I almost added an addendum of "Not that Cotton's opinion doesn't count"

I read the first little chapter, and I predict I may finish this bugger by C.O.B. today.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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i was actually talking to my boss today, trying to figure out where i'd seen nancy spungen referred to as "universally acknowledged as the most annoying human being that ever lived" or something and just remembered when i saw this thread where. Yeah, it's got some good stuff where it wants it.

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Parts of this are pure Gold, parts are wannabe-Thompson-esque, parts of it make it obvious why this dude has girl problems...

My favorite line is his "How you know if you are a drug addict" bit....

I would give this 3 stars on a 5 star scale, but it gets points for being a book you can read in one sitting. If this was even 50 pages longer the scale would slide.

Enough about music, girls, driving, drugs, and life to keep me interested, though, and that is saying a lot these days.

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Truth doesn't do well here.

*Sometimes, I do like the chintz, though. The pageantry, the gallantry, the masquerade. The party.


I'm a fan of both truth and chintz.

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was gonna pick it up last week, but given it's length, $40 price tag and somewhat mixed reviews, I'll wait until paperback. Ended up getting Hey Rube! instead.

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I liked it not that much. Not that much at all...

Bad allegories, bad narrative, a few funny asides... I'd wait for p'back if you wanted to read this one...

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i ordered the audio book of this for my ball'n chain. i could probably rip it for my own personal use if i wanted to...


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i ordered the audio book of this for my ball'n chain. i could probably rip it for my own personal use if i wanted to...


Ripping Audiobooks is killing book burning.... no, wait...

Audiobooks are killing home reading.... no, wait...

Well, since I can't think of the proper "Home recording is killing the music industry" analogy, I neither approve of nor condone your actions.

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how about "getting married is killing my indiscriminate whore-pegging"?


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it came today! i love mail.


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was gonna pick it up last week, but given it's length, $40 price tag and somewhat mixed reviews, I'll wait until paperback. Ended up getting Hey Rube! instead.


Finally found a nice discounted price online and got it last week. Finished it in about about 3 sittings. I really enjoy Chuck's writing and have always found him very relatable, particularly his love of Kiss and other 80s metal, but would have to agree that parts of this book did drag a bit. Overall, though it was very enjoyable. I probably would have liked even more musical stops along the way, but then again I wasn't the one driving the whole way.

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