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I recently learned a friend who is in his late 30's is romantically involved with an 18 year old. She's freshly graduated from high school and still lives with her folks. Apparently, has been wooing (for lack of a better word) for a year. If ya do the math (subtract the one, carry the two...), she was 17 when the interest began.

Now, maybe it's just me, but isn't that on the pervy side? Oh sure, if he were just looking for a slampiece, I might understand. But, he's not which is the creepy part!

Since most of you are guys, what's your opinion? Would you become romantically involved with an 18 year old in your late 30's?


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If this counts for anything, my sister dated a 28 year old when she was 18. They began seeing eachother at that age. She's 20 now, and they're on and off because he's a fucking dickhead. He has no idea of how to treat a girlfriend.

I think it's weird because when you hit 18, you should be looking forward to meeting people and beginning college and that sort of thing, but around 30, if I wasn't married already I know i'd be looking for someone to settle down with. So.. yeah it's weird.
Seeing as though i'm female, I think it would be weird if I was the 30 year old and he was 18. That's probably worse than the given situation.


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I knew this girl who dated a 40-ish year old guy when she was 17. She thought it was hilarious.


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To be honest, my respect level for him has dropped. In my eyes, it says a lot about him -- either he's plain ol' desperate or a lot less emotionally immature than I ever perceived him to be. If she were 23-25, it wouldn't bother me whatsoever.


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To be honest, my respect level for him has dropped. In my eyes, it says a lot about him -- either he's plain ol' desperate or a lot less emotionally immature than I ever perceived him to be. If she were 23-25, it wouldn't bother me whatsoever.


that would be a good age, however the fact that this began at 17 is creepy. very..


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It also says a lot about her, and maybe her relationship with her father.

I think it's weird. This coming from someone whose recent breakup with his girlfriend had a lot to do with the 5 year age difference, me being closer to twenty, than she who's nearly 30. Either way, something smells like bullshit.


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I knew this girl who dated a 40-ish year old guy when she was 17. She thought it was hilarious.


me too, he was a dj at the shittiest radio station in richmond, and he had children, and they went off and got married and moved away. weird.


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Honestly if she was 25 and he was 45 I wouldn't see much issue with it - but older guys who seek out women under 21(let alone 18) creep me out...there is just a huge maturity difference from an 18 year old woman to a 22 year old

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I'm thirtty and have met quite a few ladies in their low-mid 20s and mid-upper 30s whom I'd date in a second. One of the hottest girls I know is 19, and she's cool to hang out with... but there's something missing there.

I also know 30+-year-olds who are just as immature as they were when they were 18. Maybe that's where Tania's friend is coming from. Also, while I think Chrome's assessment is generally accurate (and most of us agree), there are always exceptions. I'm just curious where the 18 vs. 22 distinction comes from. Is it just the presumption that you've been living independently for four years?


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a few girls i know of that age have had relationships with dudes 26+, especially girls with low self-confidence and low self esteem, and most of the time, they are afraid to break up with them.

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Aural Fixation Wrote:
I recently learned a friend who is in his late 30's is romantically involved with an 18 year old. She's freshly graduated from high school and still lives with her folks. Apparently, has been wooing (for lack of a better word) for a year. If ya do the math (subtract the one, carry the two...), she was 17 when the interest began.

Now, maybe it's just me, but isn't that on the pervy side? Oh sure, if he were just looking for a slampiece, I might understand. But, he's not which is the creepy part!

Since most of you are guys, what's your opinion? Would you become romantically involved with an 18 year old in your late 30's?


As a divorced, 35-year old single guy, I agree with you. If it were for one night or something, fine, but for a serious relationship, no way. Different people have different maturity levels, but that's just too young (for me at least). Do they (can they) have anything in common?

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First off, yes it is creepy and pretty wrong...

but looking at it from a primal male urge type of way...i think it can be looked at as , in a sense, scoring the purest of the pure....granted kids, are having sex as young as 11 and 12 years old these days, 18 seems to be the magiical age of adulthood, and ir can be looked upon as a prize score.

I wouldnt do it...But i can see how some guys would.

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slampiece



Awesome.


I agree with Sketch that there are always exceptions to the rule.

For me, that would be too much of a maturity/life experience gap to get over if I was seriously trying to make a real relationship out of it.

Late 30's + 18 = Usually reserverd for the very rich or rock stars.


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i think that anything under 21 is beyond the realm of propriety.


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I'd like to say that I find it very creepy, but I'm a bit sensitized to it. In my hometown there were lots of guys in their mid-late twenties dating 17-18 year olds, it was a cliche. Older dudes from the mill dating high school chicks. It was a real Wooderson thing.

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Aural Fixation Wrote:

Now, maybe it's just me, but isn't that on the pervy side? Oh sure, if he were just looking for a slampiece, I might understand. But, he's not which is the creepy part!


I have to say it's wrong, "Slampiece" or whatever. My opinion.

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corrupt 'em while they're young

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First of all, lots of girls at about 18 have this misconception that scoring a "mature" guy in his late 30's is somehow:
- difficult, and thus desireable
- an accomplishment of some kind
- a way of proving how mature they are.

None of these is correct. Ask any 38 yr old guy's dick if it wants an 18 year old, and if he's straight, it'll say YES. It is, therefore, not difficult for a decent-looking 18 yr old girl to sleep with an older guy. Quite the opposite. I imagine painting your own toenails presents much more of a challenge. And even though she's expending a lot of energy to convince people otherwise, there's honestly almost 0 chance that she really is done maturing yet, unless she's very unlucky. That shit doesn't just go away, it gets stored up... they get together now, they stay together for years, and she's 19, then 21, then 24, and then one day she wonders "why am I 24, dating a 43 yr old guy? Why did I not have fun for a few years first?" And then things fall apart.

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That's creepy, but It's not as creepy as the two roommates I had in their mid 20's dating 15 and 16 year old girls. The worst part was their friends who would come over and hit on me.

Tania, tell your friend he's an idiot. Girls that age are nothing but trouble. They're not mature enough, especially if they're going after much older guys. She needs to work out her daddy issues in therapy, not the bedroom.

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I agree with you Tania. It's very inappropriate. My only question is, where does a guy in his late 30s meet an 18-year old girl?


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That kind of age difference doesn't work. Not the actual number of years between them, but the fact that he's 30 and she's just out of high school. She's not going to be mature enough to handle the relationship.

Yes it's a tiny bit creepy. But I can see where perhaps at first he thought she may have been older when he found himself attracted to her and then by the time he found out her real age may have been in a little too deep emotionally. Unless he was purposely seeking her out because she was so young then I won't say it's overly creepy. Girls today grow up physically a bit too fast causing confusion for the men.

Only in this day and age do we find these things wrong. A hundred years ago and even a little less it was very commonplace for families to pair off their teenage daughters with older men for a dowry. And while I don't condone it I suppose the girls back then were a tad bit more mature then they are today. They worked hard and they didn't have the bullshit that goes on around kids today.

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