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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:08 pm 
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Something I found on another forum..


> http://homepage.mac.com/apexgrin/.Public/fascism.wmv
>
>
> Knick of Evol intent puts the night's events into
> his
> own words::
>
> Last night, I was booked to play an event about an
> hour outside of Salt Lake City, Utah. The hype
> behind
> this show was huge, they presold 700 tickets and
> they
> expected up to 3,000 people total. The promoters did
> an amazing job with the show.. they even made
> slipmats
> with the flyers on them to promote in local shops.
>
> So, we got to the show around 11:15 or so and it was
> really cool. It was all outdoors, in a valley
> surrounded by huge mountains. They had an amazing
> light show flashing on to a mountain behind the
> site,
> the sound was booming, the crowd was about 1500
> people
> thick and everything just seemed too good to be true
> really. Well...
>
> At about 11:30 or so, I was standing behind the
> stage
> talking with someone when I noticed a helicopter
> pulling over one of the mountain tops. I jokingly
> said
> "Oh look, here comes big brother" to the person I
> was
> with. I wasn't far off.
>
> The helicopter dipped lower and lower and started
> shining its lights on the crowd. I was kind of in
> awe
> and just sat and watched this thing circle us for a
> minute. As I looked back towards the crowd I saw a
> guy
> dressed in camoflauge walking by, toting an assault
> rifle. At this point, everyone was fully aware of
> what
> was going on . A few "troops" rushed the stage and
> cut
> the sound off and started yelling that everyone "get
> the fuck out of here or go to jail". This is where
> it
> got really sticky.
>
> No one resisted. That's for sure. They had police
> dogs
> raiding the crowd of people and I saw a dog signal
> out
> a guy who obviously had some drugs on him. The
> soldiers attacked the guy (4 of them on 1), and
> kicked
> him a few times in the ribs and had their knees in
> his
> back and sides. As they were cuffing him, there was
> about 1000 kids trying to leave in the backdrop,
> peacefully. Next thing I know, A can of fucking TEAR
> GAS is launched into the crowd. People are running
> and
> screaming at this point. Girls are crying, guys are
> cussing... bad scene.
>
> Now, this is all I saw with my own eyes, but I heard
> plenty of other accounts of the night. Now this isnt
> gossip I heard from some candy raver, these are
> instances cited straight out of the promoters
> mouth..
>
> - One of the promoters friends (a very small female)
> was attacked by one of the police dogs. As she
> struggled to get away from it, the police tackled
> her.
> 3 grown men proceeded to KICK HER IN THE STOMACH.
>
> - The police confiscated 3 video tapes in total.
> People were trying to document what was happening
> out
> there. The police saw one guy filming and ran after
> him, tackled him and his camera fell, and luckily..
> his friend grabbed it and ran and got away.
> priceless
> footage. That's not all though. Out of 1,500 people,
> there's sure to be more footage.
>
> - The police were rounding up the staff of the party
> and the main promoter went up to them with the
> permit
> for the show and said "here, I have the permit." The
> police then said, "no you don't" and ripped the
> permit
> out of his hand. Then, they put an assault rifle to
> his forehead and said "get the fuck out of here
> right
> now."
>
>
>
> Now.. let's get the facts straight here.
>
> This event was 100% legal. They had every permit the
> city told them they needed. They had a 2 MILLION
> DOLLAR insurance policy for the event. They had
> liscenced security guards at the gates confiscating
> any alcohol or drugs found upon entry (yes, they
> searched every car on the way in). Oh, I suppose I
> should mention that they arrested all the security
> guards for possession.
>
> Oh another interesting fact.. the police did not
> have
> a warrant. The owner of the land already has a
> lawsuit
> against the city for something similar. A few months
> ago, she rented her land for a party and the police
> raided that as well. And catch this, the police
> forced
> her to LEAVE HER OWN PERSONAL PROPERTY. That's
> right.
> They didnt arrest her, but made her leave her own
> property!!!
>
> Don't get it twisted, this is all going down in
> probably THE most conservative state in the USA. And
> this is scary.. a gross violation of our civil
> liberties. The police wanted this party shut down,
> so
> they made it happen. Even though everything about
> this
> event was legal. The promoters spent over $ 20,000
> on
> this show and did everything they had to to make it
> legit, only to have it taken away from them by a
> group
> of radical neo-con's with an agenda.
>
> This was one of the scariest things I have ever
> witnessed in person. I can't even begin to describe
> how surreal it was. Helicopters, assault rifles,
> tear
> gas, camoflauge-wearing soldiers.... why? Was that
> really necessary?
>
> This needs to be big news across the USofA. At least
> in our music scene (edm as a whole)... this could
> happen to any of us at any time. When we're losing
> the
> right to gather peacefully, we're also letting the
> police set a standard of what we can get away with.
> And I think that's BULLSHIT!
>
> The system fucked up last night... They broke up a
> party that was 100% legal and they physically hurt a
> lot of people there at the same time. The promoters
> already have 6 lawsuits ready to file with their
> lawyers and the ACLU is already involved.
>
> I'm sure some pictures (and hopefully some video)
> will
> surface soon. I'll make sure to post them up here on
> 404, so you can see the Police State of America at
> work.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:23 pm 
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that's nuts, i hope they get sued mega for this


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god i wish that they'd take this act to Bonaroo or something.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:32 pm 
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what'll those crazy Mormons do next!?

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ryan, a douche Wrote:
what'll those crazy Mormons do next!?


Hopefully, stop the next PA Pilots show.


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OPA! Wrote:
ryan, a douche Wrote:
what'll those crazy Mormons do next!?


Hopefully, stop the next PA Pilots show.


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 3:52 pm 
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Sounds screwed up, but I'm taking everything that guy "reported" with a HUGE grain of salt.

And besides, it's a friggin' rave. We all saw what happens at those things on that one episode of 90210.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:14 pm 
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Official Police report
http://www.utahcountyonline.org/News/De ... em=SHERIFF
Rave Party

Utah County Sheriff's Office shuts down Rave Party in Spanish Fork Canyon.
During the summer of 2005 the Utah County Sheriff's Office has seen an increase in the number of large Rave parties that have occurred within Utah County. Approximately four weeks ago the Sheriff's Office became aware of another possible Rave party that was to occur somewhere in Utah County on August 20, 2005.

Tickets were sold through a Salt Lake vendor, Uprock, for $20.00. Tickets could be bought in advance and directions to the exact location of the Rave would be provided on the day of the event.

Utah County mass gathering ordinance prohibits the gathering of two hundred and fifty or more persons without a permit, bond, and Utah County Commission approval.

Research was conducted and no mass gathering permit had been obtained for this incident. However, a health department permit had been obtained and EMS personnel were contracted to be on scene for first aide.

From several previous experiences with Rave parties of this size, a large amount of drug use and underage consumption of alcohol occur. In addition reports of sexual assaults, overdoses, firearm violations, vehicle burglaries, and numerous individuals drive from the party under the influence of alcohol and or drugs.

Utah County Sheriff's Office Detectives interviewed several females that had attended a prior rave party in the Utah county area in the past month that had been sexual assaulted. These females stated that the combination of drugs and alcohol made them fear for their safety due to the groping and sexual assaults that occurred during the Rave party. In the last year alone one near fatal shooting was investigated by Utah County Sheriff's Office at a similar party.

Around noon on Saturday, August 20th, the Sheriff's office learned that the Rave Party was to take place in the Diamond Fork area located in Spanish Fork canyon at the Child's ranch. At that point it was again verified that the Utah County Commissioner's office had no knowledge of this nor had a permit been obtained.

Utah County Major Crimes was contacted to assist with undercover surveillance. Both local and state SWAT teams were called in to control the crowds ( Utah County Metro SWAT, Utah Department of Corrections out of Salt Lake and Gunnison, Department of Public Safety and their helicopter and Provo SWAT) approximately 90 law enforcement personnel combined.

At 9 pm the Rave party began and by 10 pm Major Crimes observed numerous illegal activities. Which included illegal use of drugs, distribution of drugs, and underage consumption of alcohol.

It was verified that more than 250 individuals were at the party, in violation or county statutes and by 11:30 pm law enforcement personnel moved in to curtail and disburse the party. During this process at least 60 arrests were made for weapons offenses, DUI, illegal underage consumption of alcohol, possession of marijuana, possession of cocaine, possession of methamphetamine, possession of ecstasy, distribution of ecstasy, resisting arrest, assault on a police officer, and disorderly conduct.

A safety sweep was conducted after the crowd was ordered to disburse and numerous narcotic items were located scattered on the ground which included: cocaine, ecstasy, marijuana, mushrooms, alcohol and large amounts of drug paraphernalia.

A 17 year old female from West Jordan, found by officers, had overdosed on ecstasy. She was treated and released to her parents.

Several local teenagers from Spanish Fork, Springville, Provo, and Payson were identified at the party by officers. As well as, numerous individuals out of the Salt Lake and Davis County area.

Parents need to be aware of the type of illegal activities that occurs at these type of gathering. Sexual assaults, rapes, overdoses, drugs, alcohol abuse, thefts, and firearms violations. The sale of drugs at these parties is so prevalent that at this particular Rave party drugs were offered to a local off duty emergency medical service personnel who were contracted to be there. In addition two security personnel hired by the promoter were arrested for possession of cocaine and ecstasy


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Lame. Fuckin' militia have nothing better to do.


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Holy shit that is horrible. That video is pretty damaging evidence though. Hope they get their asses handed to them.

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I hope every one of those fuckers gets fired.

"I was just following orders."

I call bullshit -- you guys enjoy that shit just way too much.

And: who cares! Welfare! Next?

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How is the video damaging evidence? You don't get a good sense of context or the events that led to the individuals being targeted.

The promoters claim they have the permit, while authorities disagree. That should be pretty easy to clear up, one would think. It's not out of the realm of possibility that the organizers didn't secure all proper permits, especially since this occured on a patch of private property. It's also possible that authorities could have made an error when researching the permit situation.

Also, with an expected 3000 attendees, and an estimated 1500 actually at an event at night, with suspicion of drug and alcohol use, the police would have to pull out some extra stops to maintain as much order as possible to prevent any mob mentality or potential riot. Using "approximately 90 law enforcement personnel", the police were pretty handily outnumbered.

The person who was a participant in the rave claims there were security guards that searched not only every individual but also every car on the way in, yet also concedes a dog pointed out one raver who "obviously had drugs on him."

He also rips the police confiscation of video tapes, but it's not hard to believe that those can be used as evidence in proceedings against the promoters and attendees, not just a massive coverup.

As for arresting the security officers for possession, that may be petty, but perhaps it would have been much wiser to simply turn those with CDS away at the door rather than inviting potential trouble.

I'm not saying who is right or who is wrong in this whole situation. It's just not as clear-cut as this guy wants everyone to believe. Using loaded worded like "Police State" and "neo-cons with an agenda" clearly illustrates he is incapable of looking at the situation objectively.

Thing is, though, these promoters should have known they would be watched carefully, and they made some mistakes along the way. That will probably be what harms any legal arguments they attempt to make in the near future.

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Haha, yeah the guy whose shit just got fucked up shouldn't look at it subjectively.

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