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I don't know if any of you are familiar with a metal band called Soilent Green, but if anyone's heard any info on them I'd love to hear it. They are from New Orleans and were supposed to start a tour today I think.


My college roommate was friends with Donovan (?), I believe. My friend is in Jacksonville now, but his family and friends were in St. Bernard, though I would assume they evacuated. I talked to him on the phone briefly and he's supposed to call me back, hopefully in the next couple days. I'll ask him, but I really doubt he still keeps in close touch, since he's got a couple kids and a wife and all.

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My brother just told me that the president of Plquemines Parrish (where my brother was stationed) said that the ocean is several miles further inland than it used to be.

Read: The toe of the boot is underwater.


Gallery with pics of Plaquemines Parish, and maybe some St. Bernard mixed in. Some pics may repeat between the two.
http://photobucket.com/albums/a103/paise/
http://photobucket.com/albums/a276/gauthier2800/

St. Bernard Parish, Chalmette looking WNW to Arabi:
http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1425/1328/1600/st%20bernard1.jpg

St. Bernard Parish, Chalmette. Judge Perez & Paris Rd.
If you locate the clump of trees just up and to the left of the center of the picture, that's another friend's parents' house, and his grandparents and cousins live on the same block.
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Those photos of Buras are unreal.

That area may never be re-built. The ships, nay, the huge tankers just look like toy ships sitting on the highway.


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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050901/ap_on_en_mu/katrina_fats_domino

Fats is missing in the 9th Ward..............


I've read rumors that Irma Thomas is missing as well.

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I wonder what Jerry Garcia would make of this picture...

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Never mind about the Soilent Green thing. Turns out they were already on tour.


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They have us on curfew here. We've got around 3000 refugees here, and they are beginning to get a little restless. Cops had to regain control earlier. Now cops are stationed on almost every street. My parents' neighbor was patrolling her house with a shotgun. It's so surreal. Now there is talk of building a tent city here, but I doubt our mayor will allow that now.

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Speaking of friends in that part of the country, anyone heard from "Saved" aka Mike Cassell? Hope he's ok.

Seriously, this shit is too fucked up... I particularly like the crack vials, suicide, murder and rapes. And this is in the "safe zone" of the superdome!

God knows the shit going on outside on the streets.

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Trapped in an Arena of Suffering
'We are like animals,' a mother says inside the Louisiana Superdome, where hope and supplies are sparse.

By Scott Gold, Times Staff Writer


NEW ORLEANS — A 2-year-old girl slept in a pool of urine. Crack vials littered a restroom. Blood stained the walls next to vending machines smashed by teenagers.

The Louisiana Superdome, once a mighty testament to architecture and ingenuity, became the biggest storm shelter in New Orleans the day before Katrina's arrival Monday. About 16,000 people eventually settled in.

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By Wednesday, it had degenerated into horror. A few hundred people were evacuated from the arena Wednesday, and buses will take away the vast majority of refugees today.

"We pee on the floor. We are like animals," said Taffany Smith, 25, as she cradled her 3-week-old son, Terry. In her right hand she carried a half-full bottle of formula provided by rescuers. Baby supplies are running low; one mother said she was given two diapers and told to scrape them off when they got dirty and use them again.

At least two people, including a child, have been raped. At least three people have died, including one man who jumped 50 feet to his death, saying he had nothing left to live for.

The hurricane left most of southern Louisiana without power, and the arena, which is in the central business district of New Orleans, was not spared. The air conditioning failed immediately and a swampy heat filled the dome.

An emergency generator kept some lights on, but quickly failed. Engineers have worked feverishly to keep a backup generator running, at one point swimming under the floodwater to knock a hole in the wall to install a new diesel fuel line. But the backup generator is now faltering and almost entirely submerged.

There is no sanitation. The stench is overwhelming. The city's water supply, which had held up since Sunday, gave out early Wednesday, and toilets in the Superdome became inoperable and began to overflow.

"There is feces on the walls," said Bryan Hebert, 43, who arrived at the Superdome on Monday. "There is feces all over the place."

The Superdome is patrolled by more than 500 Louisiana National Guard troops, many of whom carry machine guns as sweaty, smelly people press against metal barricades that keep them from leaving, shouting as the soldiers pass by: "Hey! We need more water! We need help!"

Most refugees are given two 9-ounce bottles of water a day and two boxed meals: spaghetti, Thai chicken or jambalaya.

One man tried to escape Wednesday by leaping a barricade and racing toward the streets. The man was desperate, National Guard Sgt. Caleb Wells said. Everything he was able to bring to the Superdome had been stolen. His house had probably been destroyed, his relatives killed.

"We had to chase him down," Wells said. "He said he just wanted to get out, to go somewhere. We took him to the terrace and said: 'Look.' "

Below, floodwaters were continuing to rise, submerging cars.

"He didn't realize how bad things are out there," Wells said. "He just broke down. He started bawling. We took him back inside."

The soldiers — most are sleeping two or three hours a night, and many have lost houses — say they are doing the best they can with limited resources and no infrastructure. But they have become the target of many refugees' anger.

"They've got the impression that we have everything and they have nothing," 1st Sgt. John Jewell said. "I tell them: 'We're all in the same boat. We're living like you're living.' Some of them understand. Some of them have lost their senses."

Thousands of people are still wading to high ground out of the flooding, and most head for the Superdome. Officials have turned away hundreds.

"The conditions are steadily declining," said Maj. Ed Bush. "The systems have done all they can do. We don't know how much longer we can hold on. The game now is to squeeze everything we can out of the Superdome and then get out."

New Orleans Mayor C. Ray Nagin said Wednesday that more than 100 buses were staged outside the city for today's evacuation. He had asked officials in Baton Rouge and Lafayette, La., to send all of their school buses — about 500 — to New Orleans. If all of the buses make it into the city, Nagin said, the Superdome could be cleared out by nightfall today.


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I can't believe how mismanaged this whole fucking thing is. If the news teams can get to people, why not a guy with a truck of water? Why not a convoy of busses?


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The floating hospital ship isn't supposed to leave port until Sunday.

It's almost as if the fed didn't think such massive horror could happen here and is having to be yanked out of its beaucratic bullshit methodology.

Time for that's way long gone. All of New Orleans needs to be evacuated now, en masse, not "orderly and as resources are put together." Now.

So far the FEMA and Homeland Security chiefs have come across as paper-pushing putzfucks. That night be harsh, but that's how it seems when so many people are in danger of dying from dehydration, starvation and disease.

The logistics of all this should have been firmly in place years ago and officals going on Larry King saying "Let's not talk about woulda-shouldas" need to be smacked up the head.


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frosted Wrote:
So far the FEMA and Homeland Security chiefs have come across as paper-pushing putzfucks. That night be harsh, but that's how it seems when so many people are in danger of dying from dehydration, starvation and disease.


Also from Political Animal -

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LIKE FATHER, LIKE SON?....Back in 1995, Danny Franklin wrote a piece in the Washington Monthly about the travails of FEMA, an agency that had an abominable reputation for poor planning and bureaucratic incompetence in the 80s and early 90s:

FEMA was, in the words of former advisory board member and defense analyst Lawrence Korb, a "political dumping ground," a backwater reserved for political contributors or friends with no experience in emergency management.

....Because FEMA had 10 times the proportion of political appointees of most other government agencies, the poorly chosen Bush [Sr.] appointees had a profound effect on the performance of the agency. Sam Jones, the mayor of Franklin, Louisiana, says he was shocked to find that the damage assessors sent to his town a week after Hurricane Andrew had no disaster experience whatsoever. "They were political appointees, members of county Republican parties hired on an as-needed basis....They were terribly inexperienced."

In 1992 the GAO recommended sweeping changes in FEMA's mission and organization, and the newly elected Bill Clinton took the GAO's recommendations seriously. The first thing he did was appoint as FEMA's director James Lee Witt, a former construction company owner who had worked with Clinton in Arkansas as director of the state Office of Emergency Services, where he earned high marks for his management of three presidential disaster declarations, including two major floods in 1990 and 1991.

Witt resurrected FEMA's reputation and turned it into a highly respected agency, but via email, Franklin wonders if the widely reported problems regarding federal response to Hurricane Katrina are related to George Bush's rather more patronage minded approach to staffing critical positions:

The difficulties of coordination seem to indicate we've returned to the bad old days where the FEMA administrator position is given away on the basis of political favor, rather than hard experience. The whole story of FEMA's response to Katrina has yet to be written, but it has always troubled me that Bush has appointed, in succession, his 2000 campaign manager and an Oklahoma lawyer whose only emergency management experience prior to joining FEMA was as an assistant city manager.

I hope Franklin is wrong about this, but after hearing one too many stories about unqualified political appointees taking over scientific, technical, and reconstruction positions in the Bush administration, it's hard not to wonder if FEMA hasn't suffered under his administration as well.

UPDATE: More here from Eric Holdeman in the Washington Post:

The advent of the Bush administration in January 2001 signaled the beginning of the end for FEMA. The newly appointed leadership of the agency showed little interest in its work or in the missions pursued by the departed [James Lee] Witt. Then came the Sept. 11 attacks and the creation of the Department of Homeland Security. Soon FEMA was being absorbed into the "homeland security borg."

This year it was announced that FEMA is to "officially" lose the disaster preparedness function that it has had since its creation. The move is a death blow to an agency that was already on life support. In fact, FEMA employees have been directed not to become involved in disaster preparedness functions, since a new directorate (yet to be established) will have that mission.

Read the whole thing.


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