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discuss. I have heard a few singles in the past which were ok, but I still don't know what to make of them.

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The first couple LPs are great - Especially for You and Green Thoughts, which are all Rickenbacker jangle, Kinks-style riffs, and downbeat vocals. After that, it got a tad sketchy and they started rehashing the same riffs and stuff. Eventually they devolved into semi-parody songs like "Free John Gotti."


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Lot fo great stuff. lots of blah stuff...

'blown to smithereens' (thier best of) is the tits though! highly loved!

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Don't own any.
But wehen the singles come on the radio, I turn it up.
I know that onebrownjeff likes 'em. We covered "A Girl Like You" in our band together.

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Yeah, go with the first albums. They went from and dark and fairly aggressive jangle-rock to competent froth-pop by the early 90's. First two records are excellent, though


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I'll echo everyone else & say go with the first 2 CDs...Especially For You is still one of my favorites. As they're all Jersey boys, I've always had a soft spot for 'em.

I also have one of the compilations, Attack of the Smithereens. Some cool demos/outtakes, and I dig their versions of The Seeker and One After 909. Not a good starting place, though.


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They have a great bassist who moonlighted in Stickfigure which is as far as I know defunct.

I own "Smithereens - 11" and "Blown to Smithereens"


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Seems like I'm their biggest fan here ( so far, at least ). I LOVE this band. Lots of great tunes throughout their career - about the only album that's close to a stinker is their most recent ( "God Save The Smithereens" ) , IMO.

Saw Pat DiNizio play a solo acoustic show a few years back - great show, & a really interesting guy to chat with.


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I grew up loving this band. Nothing to write home about but great catchy pop songs with lots of guitar, etc. No earth-shattering genius here, but strong moments, for sure.

Best Of... is the one to start with, IMHO, as it contains all their most accessible work.


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They're one of those bands that I respect (hey, the backed up Otis Blackwell, fergawdsakes), but I'd say that "Behind The Wall Of Sleep" is the apex and template of their entire recorded output. Great song, great sound, but very little variation throughout their career.

And I thought they did a kickass cover of T.Rex's "The Slider".


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I can agree with the "little variation" take, but I think that's mostly intentional. DiNizio's never made any bones about the concept of the band being 4 guys making 3 minute pop songs.

Then again, a lot of my favorite bands fall into the "All The Songs Sound The Same" category, so my threshold for this kinda thing is probably higher than most peoples.


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I can agree with the "little variation" take, but I think that's mostly intentional. DiNizio's never made any bones about the concept of the band being 4 guys making 3 minute pop songs.

Then again, a lot of my favorite bands fall into the "All The Songs Sound The Same" category, so my threshold for this kinda thing is probably higher than most peoples.

Oh, me too, Diggity. One word: Ramones. But I guess one's tolerance for the micro-variation of certain bands depends on how exciting you find that original template. What makes me inpatient with the Smithereens is how deliberately mid-tempo it all is, plus DeNizio's tendency to never push his voice out of its comfort range.


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I can see that. Although I'd say they have more "up-tempo" numbers than you might think. But that's splittin' hairs.

Speaking of DiNizio...while posting on this thread I received this article via an email group I'm in. Talk about synchronicity :


Rock 'n' chin music - Smithereens front man tries baseball for TV

By JIM WHITE, Staff Writer.

BRIDGEWATER -- In the dugout at Commerce Bank Park, Pat DiNizio let on that he still has a long way to go.

The front man for the seminal '80s and early-'90s rock band The Smithereens, DiNizio had just finished warming up with the Somerset Patriots prior to their Sept. 1 match-up with the Long Island Ducks and talked about his upcoming reality show "7th Inning Stretch."

"It's kind of like a cross between 'Field of Dreams,' 'The Rookie' and 'Spinal Tap,'" said the Scotch Plains native who turns 50 next month. DiNizio, who likes baseball almost as much as he likes playing guitar, wants to be the oldest player on a minor league club, and "7th Inning Stretch," which began filming in early June and should wrap up in February, will chronicle his attempt to reach that goal. The show is expected to air sometime in late March on ESPN2.

The visit to Commerce Bank Park was just one stop on DiNizio's whirlwind tour to get back in shape and reclaim the talent he had as a star player at Scotch Plains High School in the early '70s.

It has taken him to a number of ballparks including Fenway Park, where he nearly hit the Green Monster off a pitch from David Wells. He got batting tips from Don Mattingly at Yankees Stadium. "Iron Man" Cal Ripken is also featured in the show as well as a number of rock musicians, including Gene Simmons, Todd Rundgren, Ted Nugent, Sugar Ray, George Thorogood and Joan Jett.

"We're targeting older athletes and musicians who are still out there kicking ass," said the show's producer, Michele Alessi of Famous Monsters Media.

DiNizio was adamant that the show's premise is no gimmick and insisted he believes he really has a shot at making a minor league team.

"Absolutely," he said. "It's just a matter of getting the proper amount of coaching. It's like playing the guitar. You have to be dedicated and practice every day."

He continued: "It's a reality show meant to empower people. It's for guys who wear the baseball jersey of their favorite player. It's for families with kids who play ball. It's about a 50-year-old man with a dream."

DiNizio said his dream began after he came down with a nervous disorder that resulted in life-threatening hives.

"After 25 years on the road (with The Smithereens) I wound up getting sick. It took its toll," he said, adding he was prescribed a powerful steroid that saved his life but caused him to balloon up to 310 pounds -- 100 pounds more than his average weight.

"Have you seen Jerry Lewis? Like him," he said.

"During that time I watched a lot of baseball on TV," he said. DiNizio, currently at 275 pounds, said he began to notice that professional outfielders were letting catchable pop-ups drop in front of them. "I started thinking gee wiz, if I had that opportunity I wouldn't be lazy. Baseball became a way out of being sick."

He said Cal Ripken thought it was a good idea for a show and after a pitch to ESPN, Famous Monsters Media was given the green light.

The rest is reality television.

"Swing from your ass," Manager Sparky Lyle recommended to DiNizio earlier in the day, before batting practice.

"I can do it. I can do it. I can do it," a sweaty DiNizio said a bit later, after exiting the batting cage. "It feels good when I hit it with the sweet spot of the bat."

Lyle, the former legendary relief pitcher for the New York Yankees and Boston Red Sox, pitched to DiNizio, who, after starting off with foul tips and weak grounders, eventually began to hit consistent and powerful bombs into the outfield.

"Don't let him run one in on your hands. He's made a living doing it," pitching coach Liam Healy told DiNizio as players encouraged him to keep it up.

"He's got a great bat path, down through the ball," Healy said. "But you gotta remember, he hasn't played in 35 years. You also gotta remember he's hitting off Sparky Lyle."

"He did like I would expect anyone to do who hasn't played baseball in a while," Lyle said at the end of batting practice. "He takes too big a stride. He needs to work on that. Either no stride at all or a shorter one."

Lyle said DiNizio's stride was causing him to strike the ball from below the trademark of the bat.

"His hands probably hurt right now," he said.

"It's good what he's doing," Lyle said about the television show. "I think he's having fun, what the hell? We enjoyed having him here."

DiNizio also practiced pitching and fielding ground balls with his Mizuno mitt signed by Alice Cooper Tommy Lee, Heather Locklear and Rob Lowe -- a memento from a charity softball event in Hollywood back in the early '90s.

"I have to be twice as good as these kids half my age," he said after the workout. "I may not have the physical gifts but I have the reflexes."

DiNizio said he is aware that at the age of 46, outfielder Rickey Henderson was and remains the oldest player in the history of the Atlantic League. Henderson will turn 48 this Christmas and currently plays for the San Diego Surf Dawgs in the Golden Baseball League. He also has 25 years of Major League Baseball experience under his belt.

DiNizio compared his own comeback to that of former two-time Heavyweight Champion George Foreman.

"People said he was too fat and too old, and he was gonna get hurt. But he did it," he said. "Some people have told me it's impossible, but if I believed all the naysayers who told us The Smithereens were terrible, we would have given up." The Smithereens will mark their 25th anniversary in March.

"The human spirit is an amazing thing. If you work hard enough you can do damn near anything," he said. "That would be the most amazing thing ever, to make a team. But in the end it's not about whether I make a team or not. It's about the journey."


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I think I own 'Especially For You'. Yeah, I do. Hmm.

I must have bought it for a reason but I never listen to it. I probably found it used. I'm sure it's good, there's just a ton of cd's in my collection that I always seem to overlook.


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I've got the first two, and would recommend them highly. Especially for You is particularly good.

These guys were fantastic when I saw 'em on the tour for Especially for You. They played pretty much the whole album, a few new songs, a few covers, traded instruments and did some Micheal Jackson songs. One of the most fun, rock and roll bands I've seen. I heard they were a bar band for many years before getting some exposure, and the experience really showed in their live show. Or, maybe I was just really drunk, it was a bar gig after all.


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They DO have a reputation as a great live band.

My one chance to see them had the kibosh put on it by shitty weather. Gawddamnit.


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I loved the first two albums, and then bought the greatest hits collection in college. The greatest hits promptly went to the used cd shop, and I have no idea where the first two are. They were fun at the time (highschool). If I had to pick, "Especially for You" was the best.


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Smithereens + The Jam made me get a Rickenbacker in high school. They were great live. They kind of perfected their sound on '11' but all the interesting edges of the first two records were sanded off. Those records have some neat touches that reache outside the perfect three-minute guitar rock song. I think Don Dixon produced those first two records. I know Ed Stasium slicked 'em up for '11'.


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"Behind The Wall Of Sleep" is the apex and template of their entire recorded output.


somewhere in the top 20 of my listmania.
love this band even though a lot of it does sound the same.
some people think pat dinizio is a heart broken lesbian.


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ayah Wrote:
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some people think pat dinizio is a heart broken lesbian.



lol...he's definitely in touch with his sensitive side, as they say. I remember reading a quote years ago...I think it was him & Aimee Mann, & they came to the conclusion that love/relationships were the only things worth writing songs about.

I don't agree, but it explains a lot about their stuff.


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I also have the first two. Both are great, but I prefer "Green Thoughts".

Along similar lines Wire Train's "In A Chamber" is an excellent 80s jangle-pop album.

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