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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:28 pm 
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what do you do with mash-ups?

i picked up the mylo vs miami sound machine "doctor pressure" 12" a couple days ago and am figuring out where to put it. unfortunately, i have about twenty records between ministry and rafael muñoz that'd keep this from being easy. i'm leaning toward putting it under mylo since his name's first and he actually did the mash-up too.

also, how do you note it? right now, i just have it as mylo vs miami sound machine (also why it's being filed under mylo) in my database, but am open to better suggestions.


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I stopped putting thing in alphabetical order a long time ago. Too much work. I just separate by year.


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OPA! Wrote:
I just separate by year.



that seems like FAR more work.

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I just organize my collection by putting the artists together. Sometimes I go further and put related artists together (Jay Dee/Madlib/MED/Wildchild).

I have over 1,200 CDs, but I reserved an 800 CD Tower for the albums I listen to the most. Basically, a lot of my collection collects dust.


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Cotton Wrote:
OPA! Wrote:
I just separate by year.



that seems like FAR more work.


It's less work once you have all the CDs in their place.


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OPA! Wrote:
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I just separate by year.



that seems like FAR more work.


It's less work once you have all the CDs in their place.

Same is true of keeping them in alphabetical order. In fact, it's 100% exactly the same amount of work either way. The only way you wouldn't be doing more work would be to simply file any new purchases after the previous purchase. Which would be a freakin' mess. Trust me, I have like 2000 CDs, and I've organized them numerous ways thinking one way would save some time. Nothing ever does. The only way you'd ever prevent yourself from having to move every CD after your new purchase down is to leave wide gaps between artists. I know, for me, that ain't gonna happen. I need every inch of shelf-space I have . . . at least until I rip and trade off the inessentials.

So, wait, you have to remember what year an album was released in in order to find it? Pardon my non-French, but that sounds totally ridiculous.

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maybe this is why some people file their albums by the spine color. it must be difficult to find anything, but it'd sure be easy to re-file it quickly.


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Mot, no hoople Wrote:
So, wait, you have to remember what year an album was released in in order to find it?

I've never heard of anyone filing their CD's like OPA. Kind of an interesting way of doing it, but I agree with you on the obvious problems involved.
Just to play devils advocate though, thinking about it I do know for the most part what year a majority of my CD's came out in. :shrug:


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It's also probably a lot easier doing "best of year" lists that way.

In answer to the original question -- the correct answer is to put it immediately after the first-listed artist. For example, in the library, the books by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle would go after the ones written solely by Larry Niven.

Personally, I find this contrary to the mindset of certain artists. Bill Laswell, for example, was all about the collaboration, and has a slew of recordings with other artists. What I will do, once I get organized, is to have multiple columns in my database, and the report generated will reflect certain things.

For example, I will have a "sort-by" column. This will be of the form "ArtistNumber" -- E.G. "Gabriel,Peter1", "Gabriel,Peter2"...and if I get an album I want to squeeze between the two later, I'll probably add it in as "Gabriel,Peter1.5".

There will also be an "as" column, I.E. "Bill Laswell and Pete Namlook", which will be shown in a lighter font just before the entry.

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Borg166 Wrote:
I have over 1,200 CDs, but I reserved an 800 CD Tower for the albums I listen to the most. Basically, a lot of my collection collects dust.


That's a pretty good idea. I've had a bare shelf that I think I'll try this on. Makes it easier to figure out what to get rid of, too.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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i've ripped my entire collection.

alphabetical by artists last name

album name has the year before it....

adams, ryan - 2005 cold roses

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my cd's are in a jumbled mess at the moment.

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CD - in order of purchasing
Digital - first letter of artist name -> artist - year - album


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I think once your collection becomes a certain size it's very difficult to keep them in alphabetical order. For instance John Peel just filed his records in the order he got them, put a sticky label on it and then cateloged it with a number. Put then he had 30,000 records.

Me, I have an alphabetical system for my older CD's and have a seperate shelf for the CD's I've bought this year. At the end of the year I'll merge them all into the main collection and start a new 'new' CD shelf. That way everything is in order and I only have to file once a year. The way my CD's are set out makes it a big job (4, 5 hours easy) to file anything new in the proper place and I just can't be bothered doing it every week or month.

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I sort CD's/Vinyl in the order I purchase them. I also rip them the day I get them.

MP3's are sorted: artist>album>label>year, with each album filed in it's genre folder [demos, uk indie, world indie, idm, drum and bass, ambient, classical, jazz greats, etc]. Much easier to find artists this way.


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Me, I have an alphabetical system for my older CD's and have a seperate shelf for the CD's I've bought this year. At the end of the year I'll merge them all into the main collection and start a new 'new' CD shelf. That way everything is in order and I only have to file once a year. The way my CD's are set out makes it a big job (4, 5 hours easy) to file anything new in the proper place and I just can't be bothered doing it every week or month.


I'm liking this idea.

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konstantinl Wrote:

Me, I have an alphabetical system for my older CD's and have a seperate shelf for the CD's I've bought this year. At the end of the year I'll merge them all into the main collection and start a new 'new' CD shelf. That way everything is in order and I only have to file once a year. The way my CD's are set out makes it a big job (4, 5 hours easy) to file anything new in the proper place and I just can't be bothered doing it every week or month.


I do this too, but refile whenever I have an urge (maybe twice a year). Also, I only have about 700 so it doesn't really take that long. Plus, all my shelves are easy to slide rows of CDs down without much effort.


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konstantinl Wrote:

Me, I have an alphabetical system for my older CD's and have a seperate shelf for the CD's I've bought this year. At the end of the year I'll merge them all into the main collection and start a new 'new' CD shelf. That way everything is in order and I only have to file once a year. The way my CD's are set out makes it a big job (4, 5 hours easy) to file anything new in the proper place and I just can't be bothered doing it every week or month.


I do this too, but refile whenever I have an urge (maybe twice a year). Also, I only have about 700 so it doesn't really take that long. Plus, all my shelves are easy to slide rows of CDs down without much effort.


I guess I have this system informally. I don't like filling anything away into the permanent collection until I've given it at least 5-10 listens. I don't have any separate rack though so they just get stored in large stacks on my dresser or wherever until assimilated. It doesn't seem worth it though to file away half the stacks but its getting pretty messy and disorganized so I'm figuring that pretty soon I'll take a break from buying anything new and fully digest everything and then assimilate it all back into the general collection.

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bump... a friend of mine files sly & the family stone under "sly" and i think it should go under "stone." where do you put them?


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sly is under sly but i'm not too anal about this kind of stuff. my cds are all over the place and then about every 4 months i pay my daughter $40 to re-alphabetize them for me.

i'm a slob.


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