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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:55 am 
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If you hate on either this topic aint for you. Goodbye.

The Beatles and Stones, pretty different from each other, both competing for the mantle of biggest rock & roll band for a brief time there

There are plenty of Beatles songs that you could never imagine Jagger/Richards writing and vice versa.

What I want to know is what Beatles and Stones songs could you in some kind of freaky Twilight Zone thing see the other band writing?

Any Stones songs that sound kinda Beatleish or that you could at least imagine Lennon or McCartney writing? How 'bout Beatle songs that are kind of Stonesy?

Hell, I don't even know that I'm making sense, but if you get me let me hear from 'ya.

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Beatles: Come Together, Helter Skelter

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:59 am 
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I could see The Beatles doing "She's A Rainbow" or "You Can't Always Get What You Want"

I could see the Stones doing "Everybody's Got Something To Hide (Except My & My Monkey)" or "Yesterday"

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Not sure, but yesterday while listening to "What's the Story? (Morning Glory)" Squirrgle summed it up nicely as "Stones attitude, Beatle execution"

I am tempted to say something like "Why Don't We Do It In the Road," or something else more uptempo, but that is more what convention would tell you, than truth. You have to remember that both of these groups spring from basically the same time period and same influences, with The Stones relying more on blues, and Beatles more on skiffle, than the other, but John and Keef both wanted to be Elvis or Chuck Berry...but I'll throw this one out for starters:

I can see Mick and Keef whooping to "Doctor Robert"

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PopTodd Wrote:
"Yesterday"

Really, Todd?? Wow, written by Jagger, Richards, both?

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I could see the younger Stones doing a few Beatles tunes "Drive my Car". The Beatles doing Stones songs is a bit harder arly this Monday morning.

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Atticus Finch Wrote:
PopTodd Wrote:
"Yesterday"

Really, Todd?? Wow, written by Jagger, Richards, both?

Steve


It's in the same vein as "Ruby Tuesday" or "Wild Horses".
Beautiful, melodic ballad.
People don't think of the Stones as being capable of that stuff; but think about it for a minute. It makes sense.


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growing up i thought Ruby Tuesday WAS a Beatles song.

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Senator LooGAR's #9 Dream Wrote:
I can see Mick and Keef whooping to "Doctor Robert"


That's a great call, dude.

This is hard.

I will say that I've always thought that "Happiness Is A Warm Gun" and "She's So Heavy" are two Beatles songs that to me have a Stones attitude to them.....

I dunno, even serious Beatles songs have that childlike quality that I dont think the Stones could really pull off....

I think Lennon could've torn up Monkey Man, but he would have to have been playing with the Stones.

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I could see the Stones having written something like "Taxman"

And I always thought that "Mother's Little Helper" just felt like a John Lennon tune for some reason.

I could maybe see the Beatles doing "Brown Sugar" as well.

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"taxman" is a good choice.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
Senator LooGAR's #9 Dream Wrote:
I can see Mick and Keef whooping to "Doctor Robert"


That's a great call, dude.

TI dunno, even serious Beatles songs have that childlike quality that I dont think the Stones could really pull off....

I think Lennon could've torn up Monkey Man, but he would have to have been playing with the Stones.


Good calls as well. I almost put Taxman out there, but The Stones would've gone with a little more SPITE, and less of the childlike quality Bloor speaks of...plus they left the whole goddamned country over it.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2005 12:30 pm 
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Taxman is a good one. I could see the Stone's doing 'Back in the USSR' and 'Come Together'. The Beatles maybe 'Ruby Tuesday' and maybe 'Under MY Thumb'. I'm sure there are lots of others, though.

I see the Stones as being the "darker" of the two bands when it comes to each band's "classics."

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As Tears go by, Miss Amanda Jones, Ruby Tuesday for the beatles. I'm a bit surprised to see multiple You Can't Always Get What you want's. I can't picture that at all.

I have a hard time picturing the stones as having written any beatles songs. As Bo Diddley Says, The Stones were a rock n'roll band. The Beatles weren't.


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Overall, I could see the Stones doing a lot of the White Album with a few exceptions. Like Revolution, for instance. I just can't imagine a universe where I could believe Jagger singing that song. The Stones could do some of Abbey Road too. I think the only period where I could hear the Beatles doing Stones is somewhere around Between the Buttons and Satanic Majesty's. I also can't imagine the Beatles doing You Can't Always Get What You Want.

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Goddamnit, I used to listen to Helter Skelter 2039498 times a day a few years ago. Now you guys have fucking got my dick stuck in the Beatles again. If I had a dick.


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It would make things "interesting" for Blue Milk?


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Sergei Bubka Wrote:
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It would make things "interesting" for Blue Milk?


Well I was feeling insecure when I wrote that. I really do have one.


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cemeterypolka Wrote:
Sergei Bubka Wrote:
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It would make things "interesting" for Blue Milk?


Well I was feeling insecure when I wrote that. I really do have one.


Tied one on, then, huh?

And, you must like santorum?


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Interesting question. I always pictured the Beatles and Stones starting in more or less the same spot - the bluey, american-influenced rock genre of their early stuff... Think the stones'Time on my Side and Play with fire and the Beatles' Eight Days a a Week or No Reply or Tax Man. From there, the Stones decided to perfect that sound and truly make it their own, while the Beatles were more 'experimental' and grand. The stones were gritty and real, the beatles were smooth and drew inspiration from all over the map. But to me they are two sides of the same music evolution, and I could see either band kicking ass in the other's shoes.


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a lot of the Beatles work pre-1965 has similarities to Stones stuff of the same period. There's a bunch of songs on the Beatles first 4 albums and the Stones' first 6 or 7 that either group wouldnt be totally out of place doing. Similar skiffle/R&B feel. I think the Stones did it slightly better in points, though the Beatles were a bit more consistent overall in that time period. After that they diverge a bit more and it becomes cherry-picking as far as figuring out interchangable style-songs.


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Aside from Chuck Berry-ish stuff, my first thought was the Between The Buttons/Flowers era. So all the Ruby Tuesday mentions make sense to me.


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I'm not so sure on the Stones but I'd love to have heard Zeppelin take a whack at it.

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I'm a bit surprised to see multiple You Can't Always Get What you want's. I can't picture that at all.

Think of it as the Stones' "Hey Jude" and maybe you'll hear what I'm hearing.


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I can picture Lennon writing and singing "You Can't Always Get What You Want" and "Under My Thumb."


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