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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:08 am 
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No not the good book my friends, but this
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its their one truly excellent album, and it was just reissued. I was wondering if any of you have heard the bonus tracks?If so are they worth the price of buying an album i already have?.

If you havent heard this i would recommend it. After this the manics got a little soft but this album slays.


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wasn't this also the last album with richey? are you one of those people who think he's the reason they went downhill? i've not heard this reissue yet, but am looking forward to it.


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are you one of those people who think he's the reason they went downhill?


i do think this was their peak, but i enjoy Everything Must Go and the first half of This is my truth.... I think Know Your Enemy is shite and i havn't heard the new one.

Altough he wasn't much of a guitarist for sure, Richey was a much better lyricist then Nicky Wire


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I am still dumfounded as to how I never got around to hearing this record. 1994 was the end of shoegaze as Lush put out Split and Pale Saints lost Ian Masters so Slow Buildings only could be a disappointment. Finally after five years the Stone Roses gave us Second Coming and everyone knows that story. Meanwhile Oasis was released to the world and they became the new kings of the UK with Definitely Maybe. Pulp went disco and were finally discovered because of His ‘n’ Hers. You add Portishead’s Dummy, Blur’s Parklife and Suede’s Dog Man Star as some of the best music coming out of the UK. On a bit of a mellow side of things you had Mary Chain’s Stoned and Dethroned, Jeff Buckley’s Grace, the Auteurs Now I’m A Cowboy, and Luna’s Bewitched. In the US grunge was on it last leg but still had commercial success with Vitalogy, Superunknown, and Live Through This. Some amazing things were happening and I ventured out and bought Mellow Gold, Weezer, Bakesale and Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain and was having the time of my life. Despite all those amazing albums Moose’s Honey Bee was still the very best with DMS a close second.

Sorry, 1994 kind of washed over me and sleeping is overrated. It’s easy to see why I never got around to this album but the time seems right.

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Epic has set a Feb. 8 North American release date for a 10th anniversary edition of U.K. rock act Manic Street Preachers' 1994 album, The Holy Bible. The two-CD/one-DVD set arrives Tuesday (Dec. 8 ) internationally, but that DVD component will not be compatible with U.S. players (the DVD on the North American release will be).

The expanded edition of the album boasts the U.K. and U.S. mixes of The Holy Bible, the latter of which was never released in North America due to the contemporaneous disappearance of group member Richey Edwards. Edwards has not been seen since and is presumed dead.

Also included are four previously unreleased live cuts from the era, two demos and three extracts from a session on BBC Radio 1. The DVD rounds up television performances, videos for "Faster and "Judge Yr'self" and a 30-minute band interview.

np: Rodney on the KROQ (I don't like the Thrills)


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I am still dumfounded as to how I never got around to hearing this record. 1994 was the end of shoegaze as Lush put out Split and Pale Saints lost Ian Masters so Slow Buildings only could be a disappointment. Finally after five years the Stone Roses gave us Second Coming and everyone knows that story. Meanwhile Oasis was released to the world and they became the new kings of the UK with Definitely Maybe. Pulp went disco and were finally discovered because of His ‘n’ Hers. You add Portishead’s Dummy, Blur’s Parklife and Suede’s Dog Man Star as some of the best music coming out of the UK. On a bit of a mellow side of things you had Mary Chain’s Stoned and Dethroned, Jeff Buckley’s Grace, the Auteurs Now I’m A Cowboy, and Luna’s Bewitched. In the US grunge was on it last leg but still had commercial success with Vitalogy, Superunknown, and Live Through This. Some amazing things were happening and I ventured out and bought Mellow Gold, Weezer, Bakesale and Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain and was having the time of my life. Despite all those amazing albums Moose’s Honey Bee was still the very best with DMS a close second.

Sorry, 1994 kind of washed over me and sleeping is overrated. It’s easy to see why I never got around to this album but the time seems right.



Did you post this over on Hipinion or another board? I've read this elsewhere. Word for word.


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I have the UK release. Is it very different from the US one?

Takes a while to wear in but the album itself is fantastic; still not sure I could take it if it went on for another hour. I doubt I'll get the re-release.


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Haven't heard it but the cover has me a little uneasy as to what lies within.


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Did you post this over on Hipinion or another board? I've read this elsewhere. Word for word.


No, I only tortured everyone here with this. I was just kind of wondering what came out in 1994 and got carried away. Back in those days I would do a top 10 every two weeks but couldn’t find it, only paperwork from 1996 onward. So I started to look at my CD collection and just kept going and going but took a few things out. The only part I copied was the part you didn’t quote concerning Holy Bible. It would be neat to see something similar but I can’t even recall reading anything even similar to that.


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Manic Street Preachers
The Holy Bible
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f you asked someone to name a Britpop album, they’d probably answer Definitely Maybe or Parklife. They might even mention the Manic Street Preachers’ breakthrough, Everything Must Go, the post-Richey album that made them, for a while, the biggest band in the UK. But we snobby, Richey-loving, “true” Manics fans knew the truth: this band had already released their masterpiece. The Holy Bible was all but lost among the new radio-friendly Britpop hordes, a commercial flop that proved, for the thousandth time, that the world is full of idiots. Or, as Richey put it, “People are like maggots—small, blind and worthless.”

Now, Sony have released a Tenth Anniversary Edition of The Holy Bible, comprising two CDs and a DVD. CD1 is a digitally remastered version of the original, plus live tracks. The Manics were a brilliant live band at the time, despite Richey’s increasingly self-destructive behaviour, and the versions of “Intense Humming of Evil”, “4st 7lbs”, “Yes” and “Of Walking Abortion” here pulsate with menacing intensity. The band ended this tour by smashing up all of their equipment—and they sound like they’re itching to do it all the way through these tracks.

After trying to sound like Guns ‘n’ Roses on “Gold Against the Soul”, the Manics went back to their original influences: Wire, PiL and Joy Division. The result was a muscular, stripped-down sound that proved how talented James Dean Bradfield is, taking Richey’s and (to a lesser degree) Nicky’s lyrics about the holocaust and anorexia and creating the perfect soundtrack to them: an album that is depressing, violent, unflinching, but also tuneful, uplifting and stirring. It’s awe-inspiring.

“Yes” is a perfect opener, a song about a world in which everything is for sale. The lyrics are uncompromising and disturbing: “He’s a boy—you want a girl so tear off his cock; Tie his hair in bunches, fuck him, call him Rita if you want”. All wrapped up in a sing-along chorus. This is incredible stuff, more powerful than any of the punk bands of the 70s managed; more powerful than pretty much anything that’s come since.

“Ifwhiteamerica…” is, lyrically, a slightly more traditional Manics song, with its references to River Phoenix and sociology textbooks. It takes in censorship, gun control, hypocrisy and militarism. Then things get really bleak. “Of Walking Abortion” is an anthem of self-loathing. “She is Suffering” talks about the desire to corrupt and destroy beauty. “This is Yesterday”, which was one of Nicky’s, and “Revol”, a throwaway number about the flaws of various revolutionaries, provide a little light relief. “PCP” is wonderfully gothic and “Die in the Summertime” has a lyric about, well, wanting to die in the summertime. Again, it’s got a great tune. You’ll find yourself humming it in the office and then realise with a start exactly what you’re humming.

At the album’s centre are a trio of songs that take your breath away. “4st 7lbs”, the tale of a teenage girl who wants “to be so skinny, that I rot from view” is clearly about Richey. It’s a deeply disturbing song, not only because you know what happened next, but also because it comes as close to glamourising anorexia as you can get. Then there’s “Mausoleum” which is so dark that it’s almost unlistenable. This is not pop music. And after that is the blistering “Faster”, which is so good that the English language lacks the words to describe it.

Once you’ve listened to the whole thing and reminded yourself how important the Manics used to be, you can turn to CD2 and hear the previously-unreleased US mix of the album by Tom Lord Alge. It’s actually better than the original. The sound is beefed up and nearly all the songs sound fuller and richer. CD2 also contains a couple of demos and three live session tracks, which are nice for fans, but hardly essential.

Finally, the DVD contains the group doing various performances on TV shows and on stage at Glastonbury, looking so goddamn cool in their military uniforms. They really were the perfect band. Just for a moment. That moment was, I would argue, during their performance of “Faster” on Top of the Pops, with James wearing a balaclava and terrifying Britain. The DVD also features an illuminating 30-minute interview, as well as the videos for the singles.

The Holy Bible is easily one of the best albums of the 90s—ignored by many, but loved intensely by the few who’ve lived with it over the years. With luck, this re-release will find a new audience. It puts everything the Manics have done since to shame, not to mention nearly everything else.


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