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I know a lot of you folks like this group. Since I had never heard them and was flipping around on the TV, I decided to check them out on the Letterman show last night.

Uhhhhhh, yeah I don't get it.

While I am sure there is some sort of talent there, it appears to me to be an overweight, deformed, transvestite, over-emoting EVERY single note in some sort of pseudo cabaret/opera style.

It was vaguely satisfying and Antony (whatever he "is") I'm sure is quite passionate about his music. I just can't see myself sitting around listening to it.

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Based on descriptions alone, I have avoided hearing this.

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Remember any lyrics? Am curious as to which song he did.


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Remember any lyrics? Am curious as to which song he did.


Something about his sister. Like, "You are my sister and I love you"

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Yup. Know that song (entitled "You Are My Sister" funnily enough). Like the recorded version quite a bit. Thanks for that.


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Yup. Know that song (entitled "You Are My Sister" funnily enough). Like the recorded version quite a bit. Thanks for that.


Oh, I'm sure the performance was note perfect. He waited for the crowd applause to become silent before he hit a note. Dude, I would imagine, probably went to like performing arts school or something.

I can see where people would like it, but Sketch do you think its just a little bit creepy or is that just me?

I had just got home from hosting Bingo, so my perception may have been a little off (even though I was quite sober)

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Opa has one of their songs on his mix, and while it's not my cup of tea, I like it more than I thought I would.

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I love 'You Are My Sister'. One of the better songs on the album but every song is really good so I can't complain.

I think once you get past the androgynous vocals and just let the music sink in, you'll love it. Antony can be a bit freaky in appearance, and sometimes in vocals, but I can't express how much I love the album.


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Yail Bloor Wrote:
I can see where people would like it, but Sketch do you think its just a little bit creepy or is that just me?

I can definitely how a lot of people would find it creepy. Some of the CD packaging follows suit: there is a pledge (IIRC on psychiatrist stationery) written by a ten-year-old Antony about how he promised to be and remain a boy. There are places for his parents' signatures. I have no reason to doubt its authenticity; gender identity crises take up a huge portion of the album's theme. EDIT: Once I got past the initial shock/weirdness of it, I found the theme and Antony's place it all that more intriguing. That's prolly me being sensitiv-o, though.

If not for the song themes and his voice, I would have bought this for my Dad ages ago. The arrangements are that amazing. I imagine most of the ATL crew would dig "Fistful of Love" if they gave the entire song a few listens.


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Based on descriptions alone, I have avoided hearing this.


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Yail Bloor Wrote:
I know a lot of you folks like this group. Since I had never heard them and was flipping around on the TV, I decided to check them out on the Letterman show last night.

Uhhhhhh, yeah I don't get it.

While I am sure there is some sort of talent there, it appears to me to be an overweight, deformed, transvestite, over-emoting EVERY single note in some sort of pseudo cabaret/opera style.

It was vaguely satisfying and Antony (whatever he "is") I'm sure is quite passionate about his music. I just can't see myself sitting around listening to it.

That was probably the most diplomatic way of saying "man, this sucks" and I congratulate you on that. I even gave the band a chance earlier this year and, once I'd "gotten used to" his voice, I found there were some nice moments, but overall I thought the whole thing was cloying and, as you later point out, creepy.

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<---- fully supports creepy freaks showing up on mainstream television.


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I'm not sure I'd want to see Antony do his thing live... the pictures I've seen kind of creep me out. But this song and "Hope There's Someone," despite being undeniably affected, are still somehow very powerful. The rest of the album is good, but a lot of the songs don't have that extra something to make you forget the drama schoolness.


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That it is "creepy" or "disturbing" or "we don't know what he is" is what attracts me to the idea. I absolutely agree that rock and roll is at its most valuable when it creeps out normal people, challenges the status quo, makes people uncomfortable.

1. But you have David Bowie (who in his time also creeped people out)... or more commericially Boy George... and the original archtype... Mick with his pouty lips and wiggly hips didn't quite seem like a man... and creeped people out. Marilyn Manson evoked death threats.

2. But then you have Tiny Tim or RuPaul... who are cartoons and abrasive and narcissistic....

Regrettably, although the songs on their own have some worth... Anthony and Johnsons, for me, fall into category 2. This empress has no clothes.

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<---- fully supports creepy freaks showing up on mainstream television.


Yeah, that part is actually kind of cool, especially after the song when Letterman comes over for the greeting. The scene is Antony on piano on the far left and then three dudes sitting down so Dave has to come all the way across the stage.

Dave: (shaking Antony's hand) Hi, nice to see you.

Dave: (turns to band) You guys must be the Johnsons?

Dave: (turns back to A) Antony, that was beautiful.

cut to commercial

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I wish I had avoided hearing this.

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I wish I had avoided hearing this.


Funny you changed it, cuz I did just go to All Music to check some clips.

And my hunch was right....I found it really, really fucking annoying.


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I wish I had avoided hearing this.


Funny you changed it, cuz I did just go to All Music to check some clips.

And my hunch was right....I found it really, really fucking annoying.


i gave this album many, many chances. and at certain times it did sound better than others. definitely a mood album. but most of the time it sounded...well, yail hit the nail on the head...it's creepy.

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I have nothing against the songs. It's just that his melodramodious tremoting annoys the asexuality right the frick outta me and I just want to bap him on the head with a stinky fish or something, tell him not to do that EVERY SINGLE NOTE.

(translation: It's too ghey even for me)


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i loved it.

no apologies. i dont mind if he 'over-emotes', sounds like he went to art school, is androginous, trannie, gay.....i just love the music. i find his lyrics interesting, especially when he takes love a equates in with physical pain.

btw on the album this song is more of a duet with boy george (and antony was sporting a boy george (culture club) t-shirt last night....


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btw on the album this song is more of a duet with boy george (and antony was sporting wood for boy george (culture club) last night....


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That it is "creepy" or "disturbing" or "we don't know what he is" is what attracts me to the idea. I absolutely agree that rock and roll is at its most valuable when it creeps out normal people, challenges the status quo, makes people uncomfortable.

1. But you have David Bowie (who in his time also creeped people out)... or more commericially Boy George... and the original archtype... Mick with his pouty lips and wiggly hips didn't quite seem like a man... and creeped people out. Marilyn Manson evoked death threats.

2. But then you have Tiny Tim or RuPaul... who are cartoons and abrasive and narcissistic....

Regrettably, although the songs on their own have some worth... Anthony and Johnsons, for me, fall into category 2. This empress has no clothes.


This dude (harry) has by far the best posts on this board.

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That it is "creepy" or "disturbing" or "we don't know what he is" is what attracts me to the idea. I absolutely agree that rock and roll is at its most valuable when it creeps out normal people, challenges the status quo, makes people uncomfortable.

1. But you have David Bowie (who in his time also creeped people out)... or more commericially Boy George... and the original archtype... Mick with his pouty lips and wiggly hips didn't quite seem like a man... and creeped people out. Marilyn Manson evoked death threats.

2. But then you have Tiny Tim or RuPaul... who are cartoons and abrasive and narcissistic....

Regrettably, although the songs on their own have some worth... Anthony and Johnsons, for me, fall into category 2. This empress has no clothes.


This dude (harry) has by far the best posts on this board.


With age comes wisdom (sometimes)... And dude has seven years on ayah, I think.

(53 versus 46, or some such...)


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I think once you get past the androgynous vocals


That's a big once, there.


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