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I'm sort of, not extremely into both genres. I like that sort of stuff but I just haven't been exposed to very much. I'm in love with Howlin' Wolf, I like Elmore James. I like Charles Mingus, Sun Ra, etc etc..

What are your favorite albums by old artists that are either well known or were obscure yet you believe they deserve more attention than they were given?

I honestly can't listen to too much jazz on repeat. It's that sort of music I really have to be in the mood to listen to... except for Sun Ra. However, I can listen to shit like Howlin' Wolf all day and half the night.

It'll take me a minute to think of my favorite Sun Ra. I need more access to his discography. He put out an insane amount of records. Anyways, bringing Obner back to musical discussion.

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A Fireside Chat With Lucifer-Sun Ra, as well.

I picked Mayan Temples even though this is about "old jazz" just because it's a beautiful album. I really enjoy it. It's exceptional considering it was made not long before his death.
He was such a weird man.

There is more stuff I like, but i'm going to bed. Goodnight. Hopefully you all won't ignore this thread.


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I've got a Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab CD of Howlin' Wolf's-The Real Folk Blues, that just ROCKS! Originally released in 1966.

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chowgurt Wrote:
I've got a Mobile Fidelity Sound Lab CD of Howlin' Wolf's-The Real Folk Blues, that just ROCKS! Originally released in 1966.


I actually started listening to Howlin' Wolf a while after I heard Safe As Milk (Captain Beefheart).... and once I heard Howlin' Wolf I thought Safe As Milk sounded identical to Wolf's style and everything... and i'm getting to the point, and this is what I love the most, is that when you start to listen to something more and more you realize the differences between the two you once compared and thought were so alike. I thought Tom Waits was black, the first time I heard him. I also think he and Louis Armstrong sound a hell of a lot alike, vocally, but I think it'll take a lot of me listening to Armstrong to find the big differences between the two.

I meant to say that now I realize Howlin Wolf+Captain Beefheart on Safe As Milk=not alike at all. Well sort of, but christ not nearly identical.


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Herbie Hancock - Headhunters!

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That reminds me of Six Feet Under. When the people were arguing over what music to play at a funeral.


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You'd probably enjoy this: http://obner.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=120 ... ht=concord

Scroll down a bit to see the track listing.

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You'd probably enjoy this: http://obner.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=120 ... ht=concord

Scroll down a bit to see the track listing.

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Oh I got a copy. Thanks though


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cemeterypolka Wrote:
Fixins Platte Wrote:
You'd probably enjoy this: http://obner.org/bb/viewtopic.php?t=120 ... ht=concord

Scroll down a bit to see the track listing.

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Oh I got a copy. Thanks though


Oh, yeah- I forgot the hoopla. :oops:

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Fryxell Wrote:
Herbie Hancock - Headhunters!

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That reminds me of Six Feet Under. When the people were arguing over what music to play at a funeral.



Never seen the show. Did someone want to play some Herbie or something?


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Lately I've been listening to (jazz):

Albert Ayler - Spritual Unity
Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar of...
Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else
Ornette Coleman - Change of the Century

nothing obscure


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And if yr into Sun-Ra-type jazz, google up Longineu Parsons. Longineu played trumpet with Sun Ra for a while. Relatively unknown in the U.S. as a solo artist, but well-respected in Europe and the Middle East. Not a very large catalogue of recordings over the years, as he spends a lot of time teaching at university level. I went to high school with him and he's been a friend for 35 years.

A note of caution if you go googling on his name- you'll probably get more hits for his son, Longineu Parsons III- he's the drummer for Yellowcard.


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cemeterypolka Wrote:
What are your favorite albums by old artists that are either well known or were obscure yet you believe they deserve more attention than they were given?



Not at all obscure, but if you have yet to fall in love with Billie Holliday, now's the time. You might want to start by watching Lady Sings the Blues which co-incidentally is being released on dvd tommorow. What a sad life.

As far as albums, you might want to start with her first Billie Holiday Sings, but if you don't want to spend a lot, you can pick up a cheap collection of her stuff to start.

I hate modern jazz with a passion, but I loves me some Billie! You may have to grit your teeth through some of the "my man done smacked me around, but I love that man o mine" lyrics, but it comes with the territory with torch songs.

Trust me. A fellow raindog wouldn't steer you wrong!


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For "old" jazz, Charlie Parker is the way to go. I've got the amazing 8-disc "complete" Dial/Savoy set that came out a few years ago (plus another set of live Savoy recordings.) Nothing compares.

But, seriously, don't ignore the new jazz out there. There's so much AMAZING stuff happening in jazz right now - Brad Mehldau, Dave Douglas, Matthews Shipp, John Zorn (when he's not freaking out.) Even guys like Branford Marsalis, or Ravi Coltrane (John's son,) who you might expect is just a tiny speck in the shadow of the Great Coltrane, are doing great stuff. I really wish more people would pay a little more attention to the modern world of jazz. Worshipping the greats is fine and warranted, but not at the expense of what's happening today. I've kind of passed my "old masters" phase, I guess, and I'm just excited to hear what's on the horizon - and there's plenty. Jazz isn't dead, and it doesn't even smell funny anymore.

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Just a couple:

Memphis Masters: Early American Blues Classics - (Yazoo 2008)
Nat Adderley - Work Songs
Ahmad Jamal - Poinciana
Sleepy John Estes - I Ain't Gonna Be Worried No More 1929 - 1941
Son House - Delta Blues_ The Original Library Of Congress Sessions From Field Recordings 1941-1942
Mississippi John Hurt - 1928 Sessions
Mississippi John Hurt - Avalon Blues 1963
Robert Wilkins - Robert Wilkins - The Original Rolling Stone
Miles Davis - In a Silent Way

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BLUES:

Assuming you already know Muddy Waters, as an alternative to all your Wolf, this is the guy:

http://www.bluesharp.ca/legends/jreed.html

BMG has a compilation:

http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=35269


This guy would seem to be up your alley:

http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=13171


JAZZ:

judging by the two people you mentioned, one would think Ellington or, more likely, Monk. If you don't know his stuff much and only want 1 (club, i.e., cheap) disc, this Blue Note maybe

http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=12818


not in the genius composer group it looks like you like, but BMG also has some art blakey: moanin', the birdland albums (the ken burns is really good but BMG dumped it apparently)
i think rock people can dig this guy more than most (at least i do

from the guy who played the saxaphone on rolling stones 'waiting on a friend':

http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=36660

or for an original album Saxaphone Colossus
http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=33397

i guess miles davis 70s stuff which has rock/funk guitar but maybe that defeats the purpose of what you're looking for


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You may have to grit your teeth through some of the "my man done smacked me around, but I love that man o mine" lyrics


No I like Billie Holiday a whole lot.


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Meat, no hula-hoop Wrote:
For "old" jazz, Charlie Parker is the way to go. I've got the amazing 8-disc "complete" Dial/Savoy set that came out a few years ago (plus another set of live Savoy recordings.) Nothing compares.

But, seriously, don't ignore the new jazz out there. There's so much AMAZING stuff happening in jazz right now - Brad Mehldau, Dave Douglas, Matthews Shipp, John Zorn (when he's not freaking out.) Even guys like Branford Marsalis, or Ravi Coltrane (John's son,) who you might expect is just a tiny speck in the shadow of the Great Coltrane, are doing great stuff. I really wish more people would pay a little more attention to the modern world of jazz. Worshipping the greats is fine and warranted, but not at the expense of what's happening today. I've kind of passed my "old masters" phase, I guess, and I'm just excited to hear what's on the horizon - and there's plenty. Jazz isn't dead, and it doesn't even smell funny anymore.


I know, I work with a guy who is really into jazz, and he's supposed to take me to jazz clubs and burn me cds and stuff, but his girlfriend is also pregnant, and she's a jealous girl and while I can understand, how can you get jealous about your boyfriend taking a 17 year old, someone younger than his sister (he is in his 20's, but come on) out. It'd be weird if he was a lot older, but he's a little older than me, and the big brother type. Oh, whatever.

Also, my friends dad probably has every jazz album ever made. Well, not really, but he has thousands and thousands of cds and records. I may go to him for some advice.


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Drinky Wrote:
Lately I've been listening to (jazz):

Albert Ayler - Spritual Unity
Wes Montgomery - The Incredible Jazz Guitar of...
Cannonball Adderley - Somethin' Else
Ornette Coleman - Change of the Century

nothing obscure


I didn't need it to be obscure, I just said if you want to list obscure or popular I don't really care.


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BLUES:

Assuming you already know Muddy Waters, as an alternative to all your Wolf, this is the guy:

http://www.bluesharp.ca/legends/jreed.html

BMG has a compilation:

http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=35269


This guy would seem to be up your alley:

http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=13171


JAZZ:

judging by the two people you mentioned, one would think Ellington or, more likely, Monk. If you don't know his stuff much and only want 1 (club, i.e., cheap) disc, this Blue Note maybe

http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=12818


not in the genius composer group it looks like you like, but BMG also has some art blakey: moanin', the birdland albums (the ken burns is really good but BMG dumped it apparently)
i think rock people can dig this guy more than most (at least i do

from the guy who played the saxaphone on rolling stones 'waiting on a friend':

http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=36660

or for an original album Saxaphone Colossus
http://www.bmgmusic.com/catalog/product ... ctId=33397

i guess miles davis 70s stuff which has rock/funk guitar but maybe that defeats the purpose of what you're looking for


the links take me to a login screen. i dont have an account there. :?


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