Best Album Of...(Volume 9)

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Spade Kitty Wrote:

It was released Dec. 15th, 1992. Damn, that's the first one I've gotten wrong.

at least based on dates

I'm just being a wise ass....I like these and appreciate you doing 'em.

paper · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:11 pm

Wu-Tang

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Elvis Fu Wrote:

Am I the only one who would rather listen to my entire family run through a mulcher than Liz Phair?

as long as its your family and not mine...maybe....not really a fan either.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:12 pm

You know in that other thread where someone's acquaintance insisted that Panic! In The Disco were better and more important than the Replacements and the Pixies? Well, '93 was the era in which I first noticed that same kind of cosmic shift in majority perspective. Prepare thyselves, youngish Obnish, prepare thyselves.

Vic Chesnutt Drunk
Danko/Fjeld/Andersen s/t
DM3 1 Time 2 Times 3 Red Light
Dramarama Hi Fi Sci Fi
Ethyl Meatplow Happy Days, Sweetheart
Grant Lee Buffalo Fuzzy
Nanci Griffith Other Voices, Other Rooms
IZ (Israel Kamakawiwo Ole) Facing Future
Daniel Lanois For The Beauty Of Wynona
The Loud Family Plants And Birds And Rocks And Things
Aimee Mann Whatever
Maria McKee You Gotta Sin To Get Saved
Van Morrison Too Long In Exile
The Pooh Sticks Million Seller
Chuck Prophet Balinese Dancer
Redd Kross Phaseshifter
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion Extra Width
Superconductor Hit Songs For Girls
The Walkabouts Satisfied Mind
The Wildhearts Earth Vs. The Wildhearts
Steve Wynn Take Your Flunky And Dangle
Dwight Yoakam This Time

My vote is for Cure For Pain.

Flowthgin · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:23 pm

I voted for Other: Rush - Counterparts

Stop Breathin' · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:25 pm

Since it was my Listmania! #1, obviously I went with the Whigs. Pumpkins and Nirvana were great and musically formative for me, too. GREAT year.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:28 pm

Elvis Fu Wrote:

Am I the only one who would rather listen to my entire family run through a mulcher than Liz Phair?

I've posted about this before. My opinion is that Guyville was the beneficiary of timing. The music itself was flat and lifeless, but for some reason, in 1993 - over two decades after the first wave of radical feminism - a woman saying the words "fuck" and "blowjob" seemed shocking and courageous to a certain demographic. Guyville subsequently took its place as some kind of mythic artistic achievement, even though its creator had neither the talent nor the vision to ever reach those heights again. And, of course, she was publicly reviled when she inevitably failed to be the Liz Phair of that myth.

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:42 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

Elvis Fu Wrote:

Am I the only one who would rather listen to my entire family run through a mulcher than Liz Phair?

I've posted about this before. My opinion is that Guyville was the beneficiary of timing. The music itself was flat and lifeless, but for some reason, in 1993 - over two decades after the first wave of radical feminism - a woman saying the words "fuck" and "blowjob" seemed shocking and courageous to a certain demographic. Guyville subsequently took its place as some kind of mythic artistic achievement, even though its creator had neither the talent nor the vision to ever reach those heights again. And, of course, she was publicly reviled when she inevitably failed to be the Liz Phair of that myth.

Pretty much.

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:42 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

Elvis Fu Wrote:

Am I the only one who would rather listen to my entire family run through a mulcher than Liz Phair?

I've posted about this before. My opinion is that Guyville was the beneficiary of timing. The music itself was flat and lifeless, but for some reason, in 1993 - over two decades after the first wave of radical feminism - a woman saying the words "fuck" and "blowjob" seemed shocking and courageous to a certain demographic. Guyville subsequently took its place as some kind of mythic artistic achievement, even though its creator had neither the talent nor the vision to ever reach those heights again. And, of course, she was publicly reviled when she inevitably failed to be the Liz Phair of that myth.

Pretty much.

bitterbuffalo · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:43 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

Elvis Fu Wrote:

Am I the only one who would rather listen to my entire family run through a mulcher than Liz Phair?

I've posted about this before. My opinion is that Guyville was the beneficiary of timing. The music itself was flat and lifeless, but for some reason, in 1993 - over two decades after the first wave of radical feminism - a woman saying the words "fuck" and "blowjob" seemed shocking and courageous to a certain demographic. Guyville subsequently took its place as some kind of mythic artistic achievement, even though its creator had neither the talent nor the vision to ever reach those heights again. And, of course, she was publicly reviled when she inevitably failed to be the Liz Phair of that myth.

yeah...but she is my blowjob queen. my vote is for other: Exile

now if you'll excuse me i need to go to the bathroom... :wanker:

HaqDiesel · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:43 pm

Yeah, that's my impression of Liz as well, but I didn't listen to Exile enough before selling it to say it myself.

PopTodd · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:45 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

Elvis Fu Wrote:

Am I the only one who would rather listen to my entire family run through a mulcher than Liz Phair?

I've posted about this before. My opinion is that Guyville was the beneficiary of timing. The music itself was flat and lifeless, but for some reason, in 1993 - over two decades after the first wave of radical feminism - a woman saying the words "fuck" and "blowjob" seemed shocking and courageous to a certain demographic. Guyville subsequently took its place as some kind of mythic artistic achievement, even though its creator had neither the talent nor the vision to ever reach those heights again. And, of course, she was publicly reviled when she inevitably failed to be the Liz Phair of that myth.

Bottom line is that Exile IS a great record (IMO). And whether or not she ever matches that achievement (smart money on no), she would not be the first artist in history to release only one great record and a bunch of drek.

It may lessen the achievement in your eyes, but those are some seriously great songs... blue language or no.

hey look · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:45 pm

yeah how did wu-tang not get on this list? thats the best album ever created.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Radcliffe Wrote:

Elvis Fu Wrote:

Am I the only one who would rather listen to my entire family run through a mulcher than Liz Phair?

I've posted about this before. My opinion is that Guyville was the beneficiary of timing. The music itself was flat and lifeless, but for some reason, in 1993 - over two decades after the first wave of radical feminism - a woman saying the words "fuck" and "blowjob" seemed shocking and courageous to a certain demographic. Guyville subsequently took its place as some kind of mythic artistic achievement, even though its creator had neither the talent nor the vision to ever reach those heights again. And, of course, she was publicly reviled when she inevitably failed to be the Liz Phair of that myth.

Well put...I think I may just give you authorization to speak on my behalf on all musical topics concerning english language albums by white folks released 1990- present.

HaqDiesel · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:48 pm

you hate radiohead too?

hey look · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 1:50 pm

also, modern life is rubbish

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

HaqDiesel Wrote:

you hate radiohead too?

Naw, I don't hate 'em. And I find that I've come full circle in recent years to thinking Ok Computer and Kid A are better albums than Bends.
But that's as much a result of discovering that I really don't like Bends much as it is of really liking OK Computer and Kid A. Not a huge fan.

Spade Kitty · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:49 am **Posts:** 4401

Flowthginger Wrote:

I voted for Other: Rush - Counterparts

You and your Rush albums. You crack me up. :wink:

and I'm a Rush fan!

Bee OK · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 3:29 pm

Boo Radleys - Giant Steps

MM #1 album of the year
NME #2 album of the year...

It's the modern White Album IMO>

Red House Vincent · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:17 pm

PopTurkey Wrote:

I voted "Other" for:
Liz Phair - Exile In Guyville

paladisiac · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:48 pm

in utero. possibly better than nevermind.

Borg166 · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:52 pm

I gotta give it to Siamese Dream.

Quote:

in utero. possibly better than nevermind.

It isn't even debatable. In Utero kicks Nevermind in the balls.

DumpJack · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 4:59 pm

Radcliffe Wrote:

I've posted about this before. My opinion is that Guyville was the beneficiary of timing. The music itself was flat and lifeless, but for some reason, in 1993 - over two decades after the first wave of radical feminism - a woman saying the words "fuck" and "blowjob" seemed shocking and courageous to a certain demographic. Guyville subsequently took its place as some kind of mythic artistic achievement, even though its creator had neither the talent nor the vision to ever reach those heights again. And, of course, she was publicly reviled when she inevitably failed to be the Liz Phair of that myth.

I see some of this as being true, but I think the idea that the album was a success because of the instances of blue language is overstating the case. Guyville was hardly As Nasty as They Wanna Be. She said fuck repeatedly in one song, said she'd suck dick and be a blowjob queen. This isn't a big deal and it wasn't a top 10 album by any means (<500,000 sold since debut) and I really don't think the people who bought were so naive as to think it was revolutionary or anything. It was a bunch of pop songs. I enjoyed them a lot. That is all.

puma · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 5:49 pm

Yams Bloor Wrote:

A Tribe Called Quest - Midnight Marauders

FUCK YEAH.

my vote goes to tribe.

second,
wu

third,
i'd say dre but that was '92 right?

oh nirvana and pumpkins were good too. but those hip-hop albums did it for me back then.

and no, i won't vote for pablo honey because duuude that album sucked.

MontyTheMongoose · **Posted:** Tue Nov 22, 2005 6:13 pm

Spade Kitty Wrote:

Flowthginger Wrote:

I voted for Other: Rush - Counterparts

You and your Rush albums. You crack me up. :wink:

and I'm a Rush fan!

What we need is a Rush v. Stones debate... Whofa King Cares and Flowth'giner against LooGAR and Bloor.

Which "better than every other band, ever, on every album" band is better?

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