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why are we including polk in this conversation?


He's not top five, but it's not terribly unwise to make him top ten.

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why are we including polk in this conversation?


It's a song lyric


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ye merry gentlespoon Wrote:
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why are we including polk in this conversation?


It's a song lyric


Doesn't he also make some qual speakers?

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He's not top five, but it's not terribly unwise to make him top ten.
i'm honestly asking why. i thought that he was just another guy that wasn't on our money.


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Joseph P. Crack Wrote:
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He's not top five, but it's not terribly unwise to make him top ten.
i'm honestly asking why. i thought that he was just another guy that wasn't on our money.


His biggest (by far) accomplishment was expanding the country all the way to the Pacific. He promised to only serve on term as President, and he didn't seek re-election.

In four years: he settled the Oregon dispute with Britain, gaining the territories of Oregon, Washington & Idaho. Gained the entire southwest, including California, Utah, Arizona and New Mexico, though through when negotiations to purchase the territory outright from the Mexican government failed, he did the American thing and went to war with them. His administration also saw the admittance of the independent state of Texas into the Union.

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so he got california.


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Yeah but if he hadn't we wouldn't have had the beach boys.

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or Reagan...


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Joseph P. Crack Wrote:
or Reagan...


Yeah! ronnie! and...

THE GOVERNATOR ahhhnold.

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Lol. Leave it to you guys for having a humorous, yet intelligent discussion about this topic. It's just one of the many reasons I keep coming back to this place, because there aren't too many people around here such as myself who would just blurt out a drunken (or sober) "Fuck Bush!"

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There must have been a half a dozen or more just as bad. It's not like scruples are historical powermonger traits.


Agreed, the Gilded Age Presidents were just as foul, inept and corrupt as W. We can only hope for a Teddy Roosevelt to clean up this mess.


I'd vote for about any chump with a big fat moustache or even a sweet 8-inch long beard.



...throw in a rotund beer belly and I'm in.
You want Ron Jeremy to be our next president?

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Dusty Chalk Wrote:
zeke the moody drifter Wrote:
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zeke the moody drifter Wrote:
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There must have been a half a dozen or more just as bad. It's not like scruples are historical powermonger traits.


Agreed, the Gilded Age Presidents were just as foul, inept and corrupt as W. We can only hope for a Teddy Roosevelt to clean up this mess.


I'd vote for about any chump with a big fat moustache or even a sweet 8-inch long beard.



...throw in a rotund beer belly and I'm in.
You want Ron Jeremy to be our next president?


haha, since you put it that way.


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Elvis Fu Wrote:
This is garbage. Obviously not very objective.


Ahhh... I was waiting for this. Didn't expect it as many as three posts in, though.

Thought you'd strike sooner.


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Lol. Leave it to you guys for having a humorous, yet intelligent discussion about this topic. It's just one of the many reasons I keep coming back to this place, because there aren't too many people around here such as myself who would just blurt out a drunken (or sober) "Fuck Bush!"

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That's the same reason Blue Milk keeps coming back right?

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Lol. Leave it to you guys for having a humorous, yet intelligent discussion about this topic. It's just one of the many reasons I keep coming back to this place, because there aren't too many people around here such as myself who would just blurt out a drunken (or sober) "Fuck Bush!"

Kudos.

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That's the same reason Blue Milk keeps coming back right?[/quote

nah. it's because Blue Milk is hated everywhere else he goes, just like George Bush.


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GW has higher poll numbers.

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well here goes the canadian edition:

1) some dude

2) that other guy

3) frenchie mcfrenchalot

4) that one other guy

5) some other french-sounding guy


Man, americans know Squat about Canadian anything, save Kids In The Hall and a few bands... that was like reading the appendices after Lord Of The Rings - coulda been a whole history of stuff from somebody's imagination for all I know.


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Frenchie McFrenchalot had that weird eye twitch. And there was that incident with the Nunavut hooker. You must remember that, at least. There's a statue and everything.


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Oh lordy. Not much to add here, I think Spoon nailed it, W's not the worst of the bunch, and not the best by far.

The original article is a ridiculous piece of leftist-frog ideology, spouting philosophy and trying to pass it off as fact.

My ranking of the five best Prezzies:

1. Teddy--the GOP's worst nightmare, single-handedly put the USofA on the map.
2. Jackson
3. Lincoln
4. Washington
5. Reagan

Yeah, I said it, Reagan's in the top five. It was easy to hate him, coming from Hollywood and all, but the man was an able administrator, generally true to his convictions, and damn if he didn't call the Russians' bluff and win the cold war--something Ike, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, nor Carter could do. He proved that a new look at what had been established economic/fiscal theory could work. He also made a striking impact on the leadership of the rest of the western world. Again, his polished image and film record made him an easy target, but he was adept at using others' eagerness to underestimate him to beat them in spades.


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Man, americans know Squat about Canadian anything, save Kids In The Hall and a few bands... that was like reading the appendices after Lord Of The Rings - coulda been a whole history of stuff from somebody's imagination for all I know.


Might I suggest reading a few Robertson Davies novels?


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Man, americans know Squat about Canadian anything, save Kids In The Hall and a few bands... that was like reading the appendices after Lord Of The Rings - coulda been a whole history of stuff from somebody's imagination for all I know.


Might I suggest reading a few Robertson Davies novels?


You can suggest anything. I can't promise I'll try to do it, but I'll try to try.

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Worse Presidents than W:

1) Warren G. Harding
2) Andrew Johnson
3) Rutherford B. Hayes
4) Gerald Ford


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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
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Man, americans know Squat about Canadian anything, save Kids In The Hall and a few bands... that was like reading the appendices after Lord Of The Rings - coulda been a whole history of stuff from somebody's imagination for all I know.


Might I suggest reading a few Robertson Davies novels?


You can suggest anything. I can't promise I'll try to do it, but I'll try to try.


He's written three dynamite trilogies:

The Deptford Trilogy ("Fifth Business", "The Manticore", "World of Wonders")
The Salterton Trilogy ("Tempest-Tost", "Leaven Of Malice", "A Mixture Of Frailties")
The Cornish Trilogy ("The Rebel Angels", "What's Bred In The Bone", "The Lyre Of Orpheus")

My favorite is The Cornish, but they're all excellent.

If you don't want to tackle a trilogy, I'd suggest "Murther and Walking Spirits".


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And these are all about Canada?

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Cap'n Squirrgle Wrote:
And these are all about Canada?


They all take place in Canada. His stories are all set in a university setting, and as such give fairly good insight into Canadian perspective--especially through the filter of the generally Scottish heritage of English-speaking Canada.

This is not to say that the stories are dry and dusty academic affairs--quite the contrary. They draw upon peculiarities and personal foibles and deviances of the lit-set and art-set to weave some fantastic tales.


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