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You know, I usually have trouble deciphering what Monty is saying, mostly because my attention span is really short, but I think he might have a valid point in there somewhere. Not to diss Druu's lady friend, whom neither Monty nor I know, but having been cheated on, I know that I usually am torn between defending them and talking alot of shit, mostly because I feel entitled to talking shit, having been shit upon. But don't talk shit about someone I care(d) about for so deeply... it's fucked up shit.

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A bigger question is why do guys and girls go out with guys that cheated with them on their respective bf and gf? Do you think you are uncheatable?


good fucking question. one of the dumbest things i've ever done was get involved with a girl who was cheating on her boyfriend with me. didn't end so good.

that being said, one of my good friends cheated on every guy she ever dated up until about a year ago. but as she got older and HER TITS STARTED TO SAG AND HER LAUGH LINES INTENSIFIED FROM SMOKING SO MUCH POLE AND/OR CRACK AND/OR METH, she stopped, and she's been with only one guy for the last couple years. people AGE QUICKLY WHEN THEY'RE LIVING RECKLESSLY, especially since most cheating i've witnessed is the result of stupid young selfishness.


you know what? fuck you. i'm not defending her behavior in the past at all, but my friend didn't stop cheating because she's old and not good looking anymore. she's 24 and in my opinion looks better than she ever did before. of course, how could you know that, seeing as you don't know the first thing about her. she stopped cheating because she grew the fuck up--you might want to do the same.


Touchy, eh?

Unrequited feelings for her, of long-term prolly, that you've sublimated into gallantry and defense of the friendship, no?

... I get it, though. Any amoral and/or unethical and/or insulting thing that anyone else (but me) has ever done before the age of twenty-five is absolved. That's why Michael Carey - no, not the NFL referee - is married to a "punk rock princess" and father of one, and touring the plains states while scouting artists and writers and musicians for his publishing copy - even after his early to mid twenties of psychedelics use and compulsive thieving - while I am alone (though occasionally scamming some play from an heavy-set near-divorcee (she's separated)) because I (supposedly) made a stupid remark about Kathy Kegel's tits once when I was fifteen.

Exactly.

... Yeah. Sure. Right. Whatever.

No - People stop doing the shitty things they did when they were younger 'cause eventually their pasts will catch up with them. So, better to have some distance on the indiscretions so as they can then just chalk it up to youth and "trying to experience everything life has to offer" instead of the fact that they were (and prolly still are) douchebags, plain and simple.


wow, it must be really nice to know everything there is to know about people you've never met. there's nothing gallant about being pissed when some random asshole on a message board thinks he's so insightful that he knows whats really going on with one of my good friends based on a two sentence description. and there's a big difference between speaking in broad generalities and assuming that those broad generalities describe every particular situation. i happen to believe that people can make a conscious decision to be better. they can grow. it's simplistic and not particularly illuminating to boil down the reasons people do shitty things into good guys vs. bad guys, douchebags vs. non-douchebags.
good luck with all that. maybe someday you'll find someone else with the mind-boggling arrogance to think that they know everything about how people work, and the self-righteousness to pass judgment on them.

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druucifer Wrote:
montythemongoose Wrote:
druucifer Wrote:
montythemongoose Wrote:
druucifer Wrote:
Flying Rabbit Wrote:
A bigger question is why do guys and girls go out with guys that cheated with them on their respective bf and gf? Do you think you are uncheatable?


good fucking question. one of the dumbest things i've ever done was get involved with a girl who was cheating on her boyfriend with me. didn't end so good.

that being said, one of my good friends cheated on every guy she ever dated up until about a year ago. but as she got older and HER TITS STARTED TO SAG AND HER LAUGH LINES INTENSIFIED FROM SMOKING SO MUCH POLE AND/OR CRACK AND/OR METH, she stopped, and she's been with only one guy for the last couple years. people AGE QUICKLY WHEN THEY'RE LIVING RECKLESSLY, especially since most cheating i've witnessed is the result of stupid young selfishness.


you know what? fuck you. i'm not defending her behavior in the past at all, but my friend didn't stop cheating because she's old and not good looking anymore. she's 24 and in my opinion looks better than she ever did before. of course, how could you know that, seeing as you don't know the first thing about her. she stopped cheating because she grew the fuck up--you might want to do the same.


Touchy, eh?

Unrequited feelings for her, of long-term prolly, that you've sublimated into gallantry and defense of the friendship, no?

... I get it, though. Any amoral and/or unethical and/or insulting thing that anyone else (but me) has ever done before the age of twenty-five is absolved. That's why Michael Carey - no, not the NFL referee - is married to a "punk rock princess" and father of one, and touring the plains states while scouting artists and writers and musicians for his publishing copy - even after his early to mid twenties of psychedelics use and compulsive thieving - while I am alone (though occasionally scamming some play from an heavy-set near-divorcee (she's separated)) because I (supposedly) made a stupid remark about Kathy Kegel's tits once when I was fifteen.

Exactly.

... Yeah. Sure. Right. Whatever.

No - People stop doing the shitty things they did when they were younger 'cause eventually their pasts will catch up with them. So, better to have some distance on the indiscretions so as they can then just chalk it up to youth and "trying to experience everything life has to offer" instead of the fact that they were (and prolly still are) douchebags, plain and simple.


wow, it must be really nice to know everything there is to know about people you've never met. there's nothing gallant about being pissed when some random asshole on a message board thinks he's so insightful that he knows whats really going on with one of my good friends based on a two sentence description. and there's a big difference between speaking in broad generalities and assuming that those broad generalities describe every particular situation. i happen to believe that people can make a conscious decision to be better. they can grow. it's simplistic and not particularly illuminating to boil down the reasons people do shitty things into good guys vs. bad guys, douchebags vs. non-douchebags.
good luck with all that. maybe someday you'll find someone else with the mind-boggling arrogance to think that they know everything about how people work, and the self-righteousness to pass judgment on them.


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Congrats Monty onthe upcoming nuptuals!

Wait let me guess,
The maid of honour is going to be Arrianna Huffington and the best man will be Shaun Hannity. That right?

I hope the kids come out normal.
Hey! didn't you register at the Dollar Store too?

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Congrats Monty onthe upcoming nuptuals!

Wait let me guess,
The maid of honour is going to be Arrianna Huffington and the best man will be Shaun Hannity. That right?

I hope the kids come out normal.
Hey! didn't you register at the Dollar Store too?


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Everyone is capable of cheating.


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discostu Wrote:
Everyone is capable of cheating.


Everyone is capable of climbing Kilimanjaro - paraclimbing, anyone? - but not everyone will do so.

'Cause, just because the capacity exists does not mean you should or will follow thru.

And, oftentimes, one's decision to follow-up on an option will be based as much in one's ethical grounding and conscientiousness. Thusly, cheating should be low on the list of capacities to pursue... Unless, as I stated above, one's a douchebag. A double-douchebag if one thinks s/he can do it without it catching up to him. (It always will.)


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