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THIS THREAD GETS A THUMBS UP

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on another note:

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DRUGS!

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What's offensive about "Oriental," he asks, not having a clue, but thinking it's probably something he should have known years ago?


Generally speaking, it's kind-of a derogatory term for an asian. Just like "gook," "jap," "nip," etc...

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What's offensive about "Oriental," he asks, not having a clue, but thinking it's probably something he should have known years ago?


Generally speaking, it's kind-of a derogatory term for an asian. Just like "gook," "jap," "nip," etc...


you equate ORIENTAL with GOOK, JAP and NIP!?!?!

How do you refer to black folks?

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I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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pumachik Wrote:
thumpetythumpthumpspoon Wrote:

What's offensive about "Oriental," he asks, not having a clue, but thinking it's probably something he should have known years ago?


Generally speaking, it's kind-of a derogatory term for an asian. Just like "gook," "jap," "nip," etc...


But why? Because of how it's been used in the past? The colonial dismissal of "the oriental" being a collective and not a person, maybe? I'm just wondering, because it's a four syllable word and most derogatory names are one or two-syllable. It just seems like such a bland word to use as a racial slur. Like "you Caucasian" or something. Does the word actually mean something bad or is it just an archaic name that's taken on bad connotations?


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Senator Richard LooGAR Wrote:
pumachik Wrote:
thumpetythumpthumpspoon Wrote:

What's offensive about "Oriental," he asks, not having a clue, but thinking it's probably something he should have known years ago?


Generally speaking, it's kind-of a derogatory term for an asian. Just like "gook," "jap," "nip," etc...


How do you refer to black folks?


them there coloreds.


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Dalen Wrote:
Senator Richard LooGAR Wrote:
pumachik Wrote:
thumpetythumpthumpspoon Wrote:

What's offensive about "Oriental," he asks, not having a clue, but thinking it's probably something he should have known years ago?


Generally speaking, it's kind-of a derogatory term for an asian. Just like "gook," "jap," "nip," etc...


How do you refer to black folks?


them there coloreds.


I refer to my wife as negro.

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Ah, nevermind- it's kinda hard to explain. I know plenty of people who don't like the term Oriental. It;s just one of those things that kinda goes without saying.

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Ah, nevermind- it's kinda hard to explain. I know plenty of people who don't like the term Oriental. It's just one of those things that kinda goes without saying.


Alright.

I guess I think it's pretty pathetic for someone to call me a Yankee. Doesn't offend me, but it's a stupid term.

How about Eastern Goddess, then?


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And what's with asians referring to themselves as AZNs?

That's stupid as shit.

But oriental doesn't fly.

Whatever...

Wait. How did this even come up again?

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And what's with asians referring to themselves as AZNs?

That's stupid as shit.

But oriental doesn't fly.

Whatever...

Wait. How did this even come up again?



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unreal.

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And what's with asians referring to themselves as AZNs?

That's stupid as shit.



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DunwoodyDude Wrote:
Dalen Wrote:
Senator Richard LooGAR Wrote:
pumachik Wrote:
thumpetythumpthumpspoon Wrote:

What's offensive about "Oriental," he asks, not having a clue, but thinking it's probably something he should have known years ago?


Generally speaking, it's kind-of a derogatory term for an asian. Just like "gook," "jap," "nip," etc...


How do you refer to black folks?


them there coloreds.


I refer to my wife as negro.

Steve


I wasn't talking shit, I just had never heard that Oriental was offensive to anyone.

I literally refer to black folks as "black folks" and white folks as "white folks" or "Them Honks"

Anything is better than ____ - American, IMO, no matter what group you are reffering to.

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harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

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Senator Richard LooGAR Wrote:
DunwoodyDude Wrote:
Dalen Wrote:
Senator Richard LooGAR Wrote:
pumachik Wrote:
thumpetythumpthumpspoon Wrote:

What's offensive about "Oriental," he asks, not having a clue, but thinking it's probably something he should have known years ago?


Generally speaking, it's kind-of a derogatory term for an asian. Just like "gook," "jap," "nip," etc...


How do you refer to black folks?


them there coloreds.


I refer to my wife as negro.

Steve


I wasn't talking shit, I just had never heard that Oriental was offensive to anyone.

I literally refer to black folks as "black folks" and white folks as "white folks" or "Them Honks"

Anything is better than ____ - American, IMO, no matter what group you are reffering to.


I'm in agreement with the senator. I don't want to be an Asian American, or an Indian American.

I'd much rather be a dothead, towelhead, camel jockey, hajji, or anything else than something stupidly p.c.

I'm offended by people who tiptoe. Say what you mean, mean what you say. Unless of course, it offends someone who can kick your ass, and you happen to be within asskicking range. Then, tact and internal editing can come in handy.

Yeah, we're all (mostly) Yanks, Canucks, honorary limeys, and what have you.

As long as you don't want to kill me or otherwise oppress me for the color of my skin, i don't have a problem with any of you calling me a dot.

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Quit shitting on my thread. When you're all asian you can decide what offends asians or not.

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so does that mean I'm not asian? I'm still not offended.

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so does that mean I'm not asian? I'm still not offended.


How about Subcontinent-American?

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honorary limeys

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Quit shitting on my head. I hate all of you. Gah. .


Dude, come on.

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Of course, I may just be drunk. My eyes are all a-slanty.


And the thread comes full circle.


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ORIENT: The noun ‘orient’ is derived from the Latin adjective ‘oriens,’ derived from the present participle (‘oriens,’ rising) of the verb ‘oriri’ (from which English also gets the word ‘origin’), ‘to rise or come forth.’ Its earliest English sense is ‘the place on the horizon where the sun rises when it is near one of the equinoxes,’ i.e. the direction of the rising sun, ‘the east.’ And thus it came to be used as it is today, most often capitalized, to refer to the Asian countries to the east of Europe. But to the Romans and back in the 14th century when this English sense of the word first came into use, the ‘the East’ meant just immediately east of the Mediterranean or of Southern Europe.

The word passed into English in the 14th century via Old French as the adjective and noun ‘orient.’ With the spread of Christianity into Europe it became customary to build churches with their longitudinal axes pointing eastward toward Jerusalem. This practice gave rise to the use of ‘orient’ as a verb (via the French ‘orienter,’ a derivative of the adjective ‘orient’— 1727-41) meaning ‘to cause to face or point toward the east,’ to turn east. It was then used by extension (1842) to mean ‘to place or adjust in any particular way with respect to the cardinal points or other defined data.’ And then, finally, in 1850 it came to be used figuratively to mean ‘to adjust, correct, or bring into defined relations, to known facts or principles; to put oneself in the right position or relation; to ascertain one's ‘bearings,’ find out ‘where one is.’”


Nowadays we say that maps are ‘oriented’ toward north, but it is interesting to note that before the widespread use of the magnetic compass enabled people to easily determine the direction of north, many European maps had east at the top, since the direction could be easily established by watching the sun rise, or on a cloudy days simply by noting the ‘orientation’ (mid-19th century) of the nearest church.


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