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" The game ended on a bizarre play, with Michigan's Chad Henne throwing a short pass and his teammates lateraling eight times up and down the field before the play fizzled out with Titus Brothers shoving Tyler Ecker out of bounds at the Nebraska 13. Extra players and some coaches from both teams were on the field as the play finished."

did anyone else see this? It was insane.

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also, Titus Brothers is an amazing name.

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i saw the reply. it was nuts.
they kept laterraling a ton until they were behind the original line of scrimmage, and on the final lateral the michigan dude dropped it and most of the nebraska team (and both sidelines) thought game over - incomplete pass...but since it was a lateral, it was a fumble...michigan dude scooped it up and almost went in.

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yeah..crazy ending......

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i'll have to watch out for this. the girl in the cubicle across from me is an enormous nebraska fan and was talking about it this morning, but i didn't see it and i dislike nebraska, so i only heard her shrieks as she relayed it to someone who cared.

with the obner seal of approval, i will find this on some highlight reel when i get home.


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anyone found video of this online?

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theyve shown it on espnnews about 300 times

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endings like these prove why coaches would be well advised to teach their players at least a little bit about rugby.


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I don't know how there isn't a flag thrown when the Nebraska bench emptied onto the field. Should have been at least five yards tacked on and another play.


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STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:
theyve shown it on espnnews about 300 times

i know, but i'm at work and trying to find it online for my co-workers to enjoy.

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I don't know how there isn't a flag thrown when the Nebraska bench emptied onto the field. Should have been at least five yards tacked on and another play.


Actually both benches emptied on to the field. If Michigan had scored, they would have had to call off-setting penalties and replay the down (with no time left on the clock).

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I don't know how there isn't a flag thrown when the Nebraska bench emptied onto the field. Should have been at least five yards tacked on and another play.


Y'know, I thought it was kinda funny at first, but by the end it was just sad. That was the worst officiating in a college football game that I've ever seen. Consistently. Throughout.

Worst thing for Michigan is there was a guy in position to block the 'husker who made the tackle, but he thought it was over, too. Plus, Breaston was right behind the big lug waiting for one more lateral. In any event, Mike Tirico jizzed.

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actually nebraska was out on the field a hell of a lot more.

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STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:
actually nebraska was out on the field a hell of a lot more.


Yeah, my impresion was that MI stayed on the sidelines, realizing the play was still live.


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STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:
actually nebraska was out on the field a hell of a lot more.


Yeah, my impresion was that MI stayed on the sidelines, realizing the play was still live.


See above. Replays show Michigan sidelines/players also on the field. Off-setting penalties... although it's true, officials sucked in this game.

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harry Wrote:
Noelzebub Wrote:
STRIKE LIGHTNING, STRIKE Wrote:
actually nebraska was out on the field a hell of a lot more.


Yeah, my impresion was that MI stayed on the sidelines, realizing the play was still live.


See above. Replays show Michigan sidelines/players also on the field. Off-setting penalties... although it's true, officials sucked in this game.


Fair 'nuff. No love loss for blue on this end.


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harry Wrote:
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I don't know how there isn't a flag thrown when the Nebraska bench emptied onto the field. Should have been at least five yards tacked on and another play.


Actually both benches emptied on to the field. If Michigan had scored, they would have had to call off-setting penalties and replay the down (with no time left on the clock).


Actually the NCAA came out with an official statement that the correct ruling would have been to call off-setting penalties but the game would be over due to no time on the clock.


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What amazes me is that the same sportscasters that said Michigan was the superior team on Tuesday (and that they would roll Nebraska), by Thursday morning said they were just overrated.


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What amazes me is that the same sportscasters that said Michigan was the superior team on Tuesday (and that they would roll Nebraska), by Thursday morning said they were just overrated.


after losing to Nebraska...yeah they were overrated, and I doubt anyone outside of Nebraska would've picked Michigan to lose. I was really surprised with the outcome. Still though, so far the BC/Boise St game was the best I've watched.

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Here is my take on the game and the ending.
Nebraska was nearly an 11pt underdog in the game but consistently outplayed the Wolverines who were a preseason number four the whole game.
Most experts were predicting Michigan wins of 38-14 or worse.
I thought Nebraska got hosed on the Kick/Catch interference, but then was on the generous end of the fourth quarter fumble call, although I agreed that it looked like Tiedke hit Henne before he actually attempted to throw it. If Callahan would have been burned by the "Tom Brady" rule again, he would have killed a ref.

As for the last play, Michigan would have been flagged for having a lineman touch the ball during a live play. Since he was not lined up in the backfield at the start of the play, he was an inelligible receiver. The Michigan player who was in position to make the block was supposedly one of the few Michigan players to come out on the field after the play was essentially dead.
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huskerpunk Wrote:
harry Wrote:
Noelzebub Wrote:
I don't know how there isn't a flag thrown when the Nebraska bench emptied onto the field. Should have been at least five yards tacked on and another play.


Actually both benches emptied on to the field. If Michigan had scored, they would have had to call off-setting penalties and replay the down (with no time left on the clock).


Actually the NCAA came out with an official statement that the correct ruling would have been to call off-setting penalties but the game would be over due to no time on the clock.


Agreed, but what would have happenend if the guy who was pushed out at the 13, had cut back to the middle and scored? Do the offsetting penalties nullify the play?

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harry Wrote:
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I don't know how there isn't a flag thrown when the Nebraska bench emptied onto the field. Should have been at least five yards tacked on and another play.


Actually both benches emptied on to the field. If Michigan had scored, they would have had to call off-setting penalties and replay the down (with no time left on the clock).


Actually the NCAA came out with an official statement that the correct ruling would have been to call off-setting penalties but the game would be over due to no time on the clock.


Agreed, but what would have happenend if the guy who was pushed out at the 13, had cut back to the middle and scored? Do the offsetting penalties nullify the play?


Yes.


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As for the last play, Michigan would have been flagged for having a lineman touch the ball during a live play. Since he was not lined up in the backfield at the start of the play, he was an inelligible receiver. The Michigan player who was in position to make the block was supposedly one of the few Michigan players to come out on the field after the play was essentially dead.


Sorry, but you are incorrect in your interpretation here - the only time that linemen aren't eligible to touch the ball is on a forward pass - as all of the passes in question here were laterals(passes to somebody behind you) there would have been no foul for them touching the ball.

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Wasn't the initial pass to Avant a forward pass, at that point doesn't that prevent the lineman from touching the ball. I believe the NCAA instituted a rule in 1992 after Nebraska and Oklahoma used the fumblerooski to prevent Linemen from touching the ball once it was snapped. The only time a linemen is allowed to touch a ball is to recover fumble. I could be wrong on all of this, I am just going by what I have read on an AFCA website. I am also not certain it is entirely legal for the offense to advance a fumble, only a Defensive player is allowed to advance the ball on a fumble, the offensive player can only recover the ball.


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Wasn't the initial pass to Avant a forward pass, at that point doesn't that prevent the lineman from touching the ball. I believe the NCAA instituted a rule in 1992 after Nebraska and Oklahoma used the fumblerooski to prevent Linemen from touching the ball once it was snapped. The only time a linemen is allowed to touch a ball is to recover fumble. I could be wrong on all of this, I am just going by what I have read on an AFCA website. I am also not certain it is entirely legal for the offense to advance a fumble, only a Defensive player is allowed to advance the ball on a fumble, the offensive player can only recover the ball.


You are, indeed, wrong. The BC/Boise St. game provides a timely example. If you didn't see the game, the highlight's been on about 1000 times where the BC quarterback gets hit, fumbles, then the ball is recovered not once, but twice by offensive linemen who then advance the ball for a first down. A lineman can touch the ball during a play as long as he's not the first person to touch a forward pass (that would be Avant, in this case.)

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