I never said "the newer stuff." I said Abattoir Blues/The Lyre Of Orpheus. Nocturama is very weak comparatively, though I don't dislike it.

I don't really know what popularly considered classics means, though, because Cave's status varies from country to country . He's never been genuinely popular in the U.S. "The Mercy Seat" is the closest he ever came to a hit and even that never got anywhere near the charts.

I'm actually only recently acquainted with Mr. Cave &co., so I haven't really "grown up with it". I do have Murder Ballads and perhaps one or two others from the classic era (not sure if I even have Boatman's Call, but not about to accidentally buy it twice, neither).

So I guess my point is, I can't really say.

Well both are good: TBC is worth owning 2x so you have a spare if there is an emergency. Last album before the possible kidnapping too So, anway, I think that about wraps it up for the Nick Cave discussion. Cheers.

Now, hhhmmm, oh yeah: HAWKWIND POLL TIME

I apologise in advance. Konstant said he wouldn't approve anything to do with Dio or Hawkwind, but fuck it-it's only a reputation. I'm sure there's a few Hawk geeks out there?