No Depression Top 40 of 2005

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Motherf'er, goddamn shitsandwich-eating sum of a bitch bastard...I just spent 5 minutes typing this list out and hit one wrong key and it disappeared... :nutkick:

I'll come back and post it later when I'm less pissed off.

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:51 am

Buzzkill.

Flying Rabbit · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:00 am

That happens all the time with me and my laptop...it overheats and *bang* I lose what I was working on.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

1. Ry Cooder - Chavez Ravine
2. Mary Gauthier - Mercy Now
3. Bettye Lavette - I've Got My Own Hell To Raise
4. Marty Stuart and His Fabulous Superlatives - Souls' Chapel
5. Robbie Fulks - Georgia Hard
6. James McMurtry - Childish Things
7. My Morning Jacket - Z
8. Neil Young - Prairie Wind
9. Rodney Crowell - The Outsider
10. White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan
11. John Prine - Fair & Square
12. Lee Ann Womack - There's More Where That Came From
13. Son Volt - Okemah & The Melody of Riot
14. Caitlan Cary & Thad Cockrell - Bagonias
15. New Pornographers - Twin Cinema
16. Ryan Adams - Cold Roses
17. Bruce Springsteen - Devils & Dust
18. Sufjan Stevens - Illinoise
19. Kathleen Edwards - Back to Me
20. Patty Loveless - Dremin' My Dreams
21. Bobby Bare - The Moon Was Blue
22. Okkervil River - Black Sheep Boy
23. Nickel Creek - Why Should the Fire Die?
24. North Mississippi Allstars - Electric Blue
25. Kanye West - Late Registration
26. Los Super Seven - Heard It on the X
27. Hayes Carll - Little Rock
28. Amy Rigby - Little Fugitive
29. Beck - Guero
30. Tom Russell - Hot Walker
31. Sleater Kinney - The Woods
32. Lizz Wright - Dreaming Wide Awake
33. Chip Taylor & Carrie Rodriguez - Red Dog Tracks
34. Delbert McClinton - Cost of Living
35. Jimmie Dale Gilmore - Come On Back
36. Tim O'Brien - Cornbread Nation
37. Pernice Brothers - Discover A Lovelier You
38. Dwight Yoakam - Blaime The Vain
39. Eliza Gilkyson - Paradise Hotel
40. Sarah Lee Guthrie & Johnny Irion - Exploration

south pacific · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:02 am

Cut and paste much?

Man, I always look forward to year end lists and then end up disappointed that everyone pretty much has the same thing.

(i.e. Andrew Bird and his Mysterious Eggs, Animal Collective, MIA...yawn fest)

edit: I stand corrected. That list posted is pretty different from what I've seen. :lol:

Elvis Fu · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:04 am

I bought that Mary Gauthier today and I love it more with each listen.

Tentoze slipped it my way a while ago, but it didn't quite stick until I was relistening to his post-Katrina mix that has "Empty Spaces" on it.

I popped that Bettye Lavette into a listening station at Tower today, but the samples I got just sounded too labored and forced. Anyone have a more complete take on it?

I still don't get the allure of My Morning Jacket.

PS: Thanks, Dr. O'Boogie.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

south pacific Wrote:

Cut and paste much?

Man, I always look forward to year end lists and then end up disappointed that everyone pretty much has the same thing.

(i.e. Andrew Bird and his Mysterious Eggs, Animal Collective, MIA...yawn fest)

I was typing, not cutting and pasting wiseass.

Anyway, none of those made the cut which is nice....very little duplication between ND's list and most others and its not diversity for the sake of diversity. While I haven't heard most of the list, I agree that 2 of the 3 I've heard from the top ten actually belong in the top 10.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Elvis Fu Wrote:

I popped that Bettye Lavette into a listening station at Tower today, but the samples I got just sounded too labored and forced. Anyone have a more complete take on it?

I still don't get the allure of My Morning Jacket.

PS: Thanks, Dr. O'Boogie.

I like it and it'll likely make my top ten. That said, if you don't already own a ton of soul, you're better off buying something from the 60's or early 70's.

I love some MMJ but don't get the allure of Z.

Radcliffe · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:13 am

dr winston o'boogie Wrote:

1. Ry Cooder - Chavez Ravine
3. Bettye Lavette - I've Got My Own Hell To Raise
10. White Stripes - Get Behind Me Satan
11. John Prine - Fair & Square
13. Son Volt - Okemah & The Melody of Riot
17. Bruce Springsteen - Devils & Dust
21. Bobby Bare - The Moon Was Blue
32. Lizz Wright - Dreaming Wide Awake
35. Jimmie Dale Gilmore - Come On Back
38. Dwight Yoakam - Blaime The Vain
39. Eliza Gilkyson - Paradise Hotel

I should really hear these ones before I fill out my Shmoo poll. Doubt I will, though.

Nice to see some recognition for Amy Rigby's album on that ND list. She released that with virtually no fanfare whatsoever - and it might be the best thing she's done since Diary of a Mod Housewife.

Kingfish · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:14 am

For some reason I thought Son Volt would finish higher in No Depression. I accidently left it off my shmoo poll. Jet Pilot is the best song ever written about Bush/Iraq war.

Flying Rabbit · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:15 am

south pacific Wrote:

Cut and paste much?

Man, I always look forward to year end lists and then end up disappointed that everyone pretty much has the same thing.

(i.e. Andrew Bird and his Mysterious Eggs, Animal Collective, MIA...yawn fest)

edit: I stand corrected. That list posted is pretty different from what I've seen. :lol:

Except that this is a specialized publication. Therefore of course this list will be different. Just as much as I'm sure a irish folk mag would be different. The fact that so many people have many of the same things on their lists attest to the fact that these albums got out to many people. Whether they are the best or not, thats to be seen, but the distribution worked and it clicked with enough people. I've been seeing this lately on the board here, that people are bashing lists because they have "mainstream independent releases" on them. Screw that. Look, me personally, I had over 100 albums to pick and choose from. Some were good some weren't. Yes, yes its all very good to go out and search out new music that is so under the radar it hurts, but you know what? Not everyone goes and mailorders the most obscure crap. Some of us find it easier to run up to a Borders or something like that and grab the new Animal Collective because we have a history with the band. Sorry to get all soapboxy but it just seems to me that for you to say the lists are "boring" is rather boring in and around itself.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

oldbullee Wrote:

For some reason I thought Son Volt would finish higher in No Depression. I accidently left it off my shmoo poll. Jet Pilot is the best song ever written about Bush/Iraq war.

I guess that's a bit surprising, although I haven't heard it myself. Ryan Adams at #16 too (although I think that album is really weak).

Its also pretty surprising to see Sleater Kinney, Kayne West and Lizz Wright make their list. Makes me think maybe I need to hear those.

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

Flying Rabbit Wrote:

The fact that so many people have many of the same things on their lists attest to the fact that these albums got out to many people. Whether they are the best or not, thats to be seen, but the distribution worked and it clicked with enough people. I've been seeing this lately on the board here, that people are bashing lists because they have "mainstream independent releases" on them. Screw that. Look, me personally, I had over 100 albums to pick and choose from. Some were good some weren't. Yes, yes its all very good to go out and search out new music that is so under the radar it hurts, but you know what? Not everyone goes and mailorders the most obscure crap. Some of us find it easier to run up to a Borders or something like that and grab the new Animal Collective because we have a history with the band. Sorry to get all soapboxy but it just seems to me that for you to say the lists are "boring" is rather boring in and around itself.

We're talking about the list of critics though. They are supposed to educate us about the best out there, not spoonfeed us crap just cause it has more marketing behind it. They are getting paid to do that after all.

Twilightkid · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:24 am

White Stripes is the only one I own or have even heard!

south pacific · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:27 am

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We're talking about the list of critics though. They are supposed to educate us about the best out there, not spoonfeed us crap just cause it has more marketing behind it. They are getting paid to do that after all.

Exactly.

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Nice to see some recognition for Amy Rigby's album on that ND list. She released that with virtually no fanfare whatsoever - and it might be the best thing she's done since Diary of a Mod Housewife.

I dig that Amy Rigby too. She is underappreciated for her talent.

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The fact that so many people have many of the same things on their lists attest to the fact that a lot of people aren't trying hard enough

Flying Rabbit · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:28 am

dr winston o'boogie Wrote:

Flying Rabbit Wrote:

The fact that so many people have many of the same things on their lists attest to the fact that these albums got out to many people. Whether they are the best or not, thats to be seen, but the distribution worked and it clicked with enough people. I've been seeing this lately on the board here, that people are bashing lists because they have "mainstream independent releases" on them. Screw that. Look, me personally, I had over 100 albums to pick and choose from. Some were good some weren't. Yes, yes its all very good to go out and search out new music that is so under the radar it hurts, but you know what? Not everyone goes and mailorders the most obscure crap. Some of us find it easier to run up to a Borders or something like that and grab the new Animal Collective because we have a history with the band. Sorry to get all soapboxy but it just seems to me that for you to say the lists are "boring" is rather boring in and around itself.

We're talking about the list of critics though. They are supposed to educate us about the best out there, not spoonfeed us crap just cause it has more marketing behind it. They are getting paid to do that after all.

I'm not referring to these lists though. I completely agree with yr statement and agree that 99% of us are gonna question that stuff, but I was talking in reference to the shmoo polls that boarders did, and how they are coming under scrutiny and called "boring".

tehobner · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 8:48 pm **Posts:** 4479

ry cooder is excellent

tentoze · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:30 am

No surprise that this one comes closest to my top 20. I should probably give the Marty Stuart and Rodney Crowell disks a listen, but neither have ever done much for me in the past. Definitely would like to hear the Amy Rigby, Delbert McClinton, and Eliza Gilkyson ones. Hayes Carll's Little Rock didn't quite make my top 20, but was damned close, and is a great 2nd album.

Yail Bloor · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 10:40 am

Having Kanye on there is an abomination. Do much tokenism?

Just leave it off and keep your credibility.

Pretty nice list though. Reminds me of some stuff I still need to hear.

Finch Platte · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 1:06 pm

Elvis Fu Wrote:

I popped that Bettye Lavette into a listening station at Tower today, but the samples I got just sounded too labored and forced. Anyone have a more complete take on it?

I've only heard one song, a remake of a fave Joan Armatrading tune of mine (Down To Zero). But she overdoes it, beating it into submission. :evil:

katie, a princess · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 3:43 pm

Mary Gauthier is so very awesome.

i like how caitlan cary scored higher than any of ryan's discs.

rogneeb · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:07 pm **Posts:** 12618

once again No Depression and I agree on a lot.

djdan · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 4:34 pm

dr winston o'boogie Wrote:

Elvis Fu Wrote:

I love some MMJ but don't get the allure of Z.

jagged · **Posted:** Fri Dec 30, 2005 7:04 pm

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Having Kanye on there is an abomination. Do much tokenism?

yea, I was gonna comment on this one too...I don't think I've seen a critic's list yet that doesn't have it thrown in there...never #1 and usually not any other hip-hop on the list

billy g · **Joined:** Mon Oct 25, 2004 1:41 pm **Posts:** 9020

jagged Wrote:

Yail Bloor Wrote:

Having Kanye on there is an abomination. Do much tokenism?

yea, I was gonna comment on this one too...I don't think I've seen a critic's list yet that doesn't have it thrown in there...never #1 and usually not any other hip-hop on the list

Its so far out of their ballywick that I have a hard time thinking that it was an intentional token hip hop pick. Same with Sleater Kinney.

I haven't heard either but I will say that their inclusion on this list makes me more curious. And I just ordered Mary Gauthier based on the #2 showing and high praise from a few boarders. If I'm thinking correctly someone (Bloor?) had recommended her in singer/songwriter thread I started a month or so ago too.

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