Ahh, I see talking with you is a complete waste of my time, as you clearly know everything about me and what I'll do in the future. Thanks for clearing that up!

You should listen to music like he does.

(for the record) This took on more of a life than I intended. I have heard worse, I guess.

'Revolution #9'

I just wanted to say that even though I disagree with you, that is a really nicely written paragraph. It's like ad copy.

This reminds me of an Arrested Development thread on another board, where the vast majority proclaimed how happy they were it got cancelled because it was a completely meritless show full of unlikeable characters and devoid of humor.

I didn't try to convince anyone there it was a good show, and I won't try to convince anyone Animal Collective or Deerhoof are good bands. They're two of my favorites, especially Deerhoof, but somehow I'm not worried they are going to read this board and quit making music because someone heard one song and decided they were bad.

Thanks, Dusty.

Hipsters can be an annoying lot in general.

I thought hipsters were the only people who even liked that show. Then again, I'm allergic to hip, so what do I know.

Also, a couple people have missed the boat on Squirrgle's intent here. I don't think he necessarily wants them to pack up and leave or open up the gates to an AC lynch mob, but was trying ascertain where the love stems from based on his initial taste of the band, especially when the initial listen fit the Ticklemonster stereotype.

Finally heard "Fickle Cycle" and loved it immediately. There's more dynamic range on it than anything else on "Feels", but it would have fit well if included. Though it does seem a little less rounded than any other recording thereon.

Anyway. Just to refuel a near-deadened fire ...

I can't remember if I said this earlier in the thread and I didn't feel like going back and rereading, but - basically, they were going to put it on the album and decided that they'd keep it as a b-side since they wanted the fans to actually get something for their money on the Grass single.

Since the UK release of the Grass single hasn't really been released in the US, they're going to do a real US release of the single with the video for Grass, the two b-sides and possibly more extras.

Apparently, a shipment of the Grass singles were sent to a US distributor for a semi-official US release and they all actually got lost in shipment.

Anyway, Fickle Cycle is awesome. I love the tune, no matter how many times they scream fickle cycle.

I can't wait for March and the show here in Asheville. Akron/Family this Friday, Fiery Furnaces next month & Animal Collective & Silver Jews in March. It's going to be a good few months.

I missed the Akron/Family here last Tuesday (was actually just downstairs from the show eating tapas at a birthday party), and I regret that. I heard it was amazing.

AC on 2/22!! Can't wait to hear new material.

To me they are "experimental" and hence, by definition, uneven. Each album pursues some new set of ideas.

In their uneveness, I like when they deconstruct our expectations of what pop music should be... but one of their tools is a strategic aural silliness.

Sung Tongs was about texures and fragments. Feels is more about songs, and structures. Sung Tongs was interesting. Feels is silly.

For me they are like Cocteau Twins or even a band like The Books... the silliness is tactical... but a little goes a long way, or on Feels, too far. Like Metalica is better than other contemporaneous metal/hair bands 'cause thet used the vomit-making bombast more judiciously. I'll stop now.

Glad to see you agree with me on something, sorta, harry.

Music, the universal language....

Now I wanna hear "Fickle Cycle" again. I think it's probably a lot better than I initially gave it credit for being.

Have you listened to Feels and Sung Tongs?

I can't follow you at all. Sung Tongs is interesting and Feels is silly? I wouldn't say it, but the opposite seems more true.

"Uneven" in what sense? Between albums over the course of their career? Or within each album? To me, every album is incredibly even/uniform/homogenous in its focus ...

Drinky, you can hit me up for Fickle Cycle +++ I've got a live set of theirs from last year with all this material ...

Of course not. I don't even get around to hearing shit from bands I DO like. But they're probably ok rekkids.

I'm just saying... Harry's comment wasn't an all-round criticism but a comparison of the two albums, so I was wondering how you agreed with him, but I take it you honed in on the "silly" part.

Indeed. I think I'm in Harry's doghouse somehow, something about los lonely boys. Most people I wouldn't care.

Cool, I have "Fickle Cycle", but I'd like to have a live show of theirs. I think I actually saw them play that song here, but I could be wrong.

No dog house. Both dogs, the old black lab with the hip problems, and the black german shepherd with the seizures, sleep on the bed. Andale.

For me (and for me only, not asking for agreement) the "textural and framentation experimentation" of Sung Tongs was interesting... the "pop song deconstruction" of Feels seemed less successful, and often, to my ears, silly. I think of AC as uneven both within works, and among their different albums.

Weeeeeee, speaking of the devil, an angel just placed a copy of the Grass 7" in my hands!!

Say it with me nooooowwww, FICKLE CYCLE FICKLE CYCLE FICKLE CYCLE.