dvd comes out feb 21. there's a trailer available on the website and some pics in the gallery.

http://www.ultimateavengers.com/

when I saw the url, I was really hoping for a super deluxe version of the Avengers...the tv show.

Nah, I hate the whole "Ultimates" line.

i can't watch something this dorky in class, but i probably would like it.

i haven't seen anything ultimate, but I've heard the spider man is awesome. I still won't check it out though.

The Ultimates book has been mostly pretty good, actually. This thing looks awful, though. It looks like it takes off from the worst part of the comic book, the part where they actually have to function as a superhero team and fight aliens and shit. That sucked.

The good thing about the comic book is all the internal conflict and how nothing ever works out. I like how they treat all of the major characters in it, and how it focuses way more on that and the politics of the team than it does them actually going out on missions and stuff. I haven't read any of the other "Ultimate" titles, but none of them look as interesting.

Yeah The Ultimates is probably the only one of that line that I actually read. Spidey, FF & X-Men are kind of corny, though the new Ultimate Hulk Vs. Wolverine is pretty neat.

I just lost any interest in it when I found out that it doesn't take place in the current Marvel Universe and it's basically starting from scratch with anything.

Half the things I love about reading current comics is the references to old characters and storylines and things. Like the sudden appearance of Swarm in Runaways, or Cassie Lang becoming a superhero in Young Avengers.

Warning, Geek rant ahead:


I think the Ultimate thing as a whole is a good idea. To me, the constant burden of "continuity" kills comics. If you're a comic book writer, you can't kill anyone important off or do anything too weird cause the next writer will just come up with some half-assed scheme to reverse it. For example, I love Bendis's run on Daredevil. To me, they should just end it after next issue when he stops writing it. The story he has been telling is essentially the fall of Matt Murdock, and really it should end with him in jail or dead. Either way, all the shit that's happened can't just be ignored. I think they should end the series. When a new writer comes on, renumber it or make it Ultimate or whatever, and let them work with the basic tenets of the character however they want, totally ignoring Bendis's stuff. However, this would probably never fly, because millions (OK, hundreds) of fanboys couldn't live without knowing which timeline was the real Daredevil timeline. Which is fucking stupid because they are fictional characters and there is no real timeline.

Marvel has some good characters. They should find good writers and let them do what they want with them. That's why Ultimate is good. A new writer gets to start over with a character and do what they want.

Well, it has ended with him in jail so far. It's just a matter of waiting and seeing what the next guy does.

I don't know. Maybe it's four decades worth of comics absorbed into my pores that, even at the age of 20, I'm still fascinated and obsessed with chronlogy and continuity.

I get majorly annoyed when there's three Spider-Man titles on the go at one time and in one he's living with his aunt, in one he's with his wife, and in one she's away on a photo shoot across the world.

Without continuity, a lot of the events matter even less. Sure, Captain Marvel and Hawkeye can die dramatically. But if the next comic title is a brand new one with no relation to the past one then who cares? The new series can have them walking around completely fine with the other storyline having no importance at all.

I like how the Marvel Universe functions as a fully real (or as close as possible) universe where a villain can show up in one title and be defeated by one hero, then be shown breaking out of jail in another title, his being there a result of that. I like how the Wrecker and his gang can get their asses whipped by the Runaways in their title then, when they run into the New Avengers in their title, Spider-Woman and Luke Cage can laugh at them about this.

Is Bendis leaving Daredevil? I think his run on it has been one of the best Marvel titles of the past few years.

Yeah, Ed Brubaker takes over on #82. I don't know much about him, but people say he's good.

Oh he wrote The Authority: Revolution which I thought was really good, and he's been writing Captain America, which I don't read but a lot of people thought The Winter Soldier storyline was good.

He's also taking over Uncanny X-Men in a few months.

I'm not a big fan of marvel, but I really like the first issue of this.

I have also really enjoyed Spiderman "The Other" story very much.

Other than that, I read DC.