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That's impressive, but also shows how little of a team game the NBA is, which is the primary reason (of many) that I have very little interest in it.

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I still think Jordan's 65 or 69 against the Celtics was still more impressive, and that was when the Bull's were mediocre and still a decent playoff team. Watching the Suns tear up the Lakers on Friday night only shows that Kobe can score all night but not lead his team to victory over quality opponents like Jordan could.


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Kobe is very talented, but without Shaq, he'd likely have 0 rings instead of three. The true test of his talent will be his ability to take a Shaq-less team on his back to win a title.


Kobe will win another ring. Shaq will never win another ring. Them's just the facts.

I'm no fan of Kobe, but that's an amazing performance. Fuck the team game, the Lakers have a dude named Smush playing for them. If I was Kobe I'd trust Lamar Odom to inbound me the ball and that's it. I wouldnt pass either.

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I still think Jordan's 65 or 69 against the Celtics was still more impressive, and that was when the Bull's were mediocre and still a decent playoff team. Watching the Suns tear up the Lakers on Friday night only shows that Kobe can score all night but not lead his team to victory over quality opponents like Jordan could.


One game shows this? They've beaten Dallas & Denver twice this year and Indiana and Miami.

They are a playoff team this year -- a marginal one maybe, but one that on any given night can beat any team in the league and one that hopefully will improve as players get more familiar with the triangle and their expected roles.

Kobe is MVP at this point. He's not as selfish a player as he once was, and it always was a bit over stated. Yes, he scored 81 with only 2 assists, but 55 of those points were in the second half pulling the team out of an 18 point deficit. Marc Stein of ESPN called it the greatest individual performance ever recorded.

Jordan is still the best player ever, but I think its a lot closer than people (read Kobe haters) want to admit.


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Jordan is still the best player ever, but I think its a lot closer than people (read Kobe haters) want to admit.


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That's impressive, but also shows how little of a team game the NBA is, which is the primary reason (of many) that I have very little interest in it.


And when Wilt scored 4-5 games over 70 in 1962-3 that means it was even less of a team game then?

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Lakers coach Phil Jackson, who coached the Jordan-led Chicago Bulls to six championships in the 1990s, said Bryant's single-game performance surpassed anything Jordan ever did on a given night.

"That was something to behold - it was another level," Jackson said. "At halftime we were disturbed about the way we were playing. We came out and Kobe just found a way to do everything.

In the second half, it was Bryant 55, Toronto 42.


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And also now because of both of the above, this is likely going to be forgotten.





wow a game went into 2 overtimes.


the third highest points total in history.


way to play defense guys.

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Pretty amazing. Although I do agree that Jordan could have scored way more points if he wanted, but chose to do what was best for the team.

The weird thing here is, Kobe is also doing what is best for the team. His team is horrible, and it is up to him to win games. If they do end up getting a decent seed in the playoffs I don't see how you can argue for anyone else as MVP.


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BTW, and not for nothing, but that 100 point Wilt the Stilt game NEVER HAPPENED.

Prove it.

And I won't even get into that Jackson quote---especially after the way he talked about Kobe in his book. The Zen master indeed. Glad you bought in, Billy.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
BTW, and not for nothing, but that 100 point Wilt the Stilt game NEVER HAPPENED.

Prove it.


Wasn't there a radio broadcast? Conspiracy theories are great and all, but did the radio guy just sit there and pretend he was scoring that much?


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BTW, and not for nothing, but that 100 point Wilt the Stilt game NEVER HAPPENED.

Prove it.

And I won't even get into that Jackson quote---especially after the way he talked about Kobe in his book. The Zen master indeed. Glad you bought in, Billy.


Huh? You work for Lyndon Larouche?

NBA's Greatest Moments
Wilt Scores 100!


The number matches the man.
Chamberlain's record for most points scored in a game has stood for 38 years.

On March 2, 1962, Wilt Chamberlain set the NBA single-game scoring record by tallying 100 points for the Philadelphia Warriors in a 169-147 victory over the New York Knicks.
Not 98 points, not 102, but a nice, round 100 -- an imposing record set by a most imposing player.

Chamberlain was a gargantuan force in the NBA, a player of Bunyanesque stature who seemed to overshadow all around him. He was a dominant offensive force, unstoppable on his way to the basket, yet he was also a fine all-around athlete who took pride in developing the all-around skills to compete with players a half-foot shorter.

He certainly was unstoppable that night in Hershey, Pa., where the Warriors played a few of their "home" games in order to attract additional fans. With New York's starting center, Phil Jordan, sidelined by the flu, Chamberlain could not be contained by Darrall Imhoff and Cleveland Buckner. He scored 23 points in the first quarter and had 41 by halftime, then tallied 28 in the third quarter, when the fans began to chant, "Give It To Wilt! Give It To Wilt!"

That's exactly what the Warriors did, feeding Chamberlain at every opportunity in the fourth quarter. The Knicks tried fouling other Philadelphia players to keep the ball away from Chamberlain, but the Warriors countered by committing fouls of their own to get the ball back.

Finally, Chamberlain took a pass from Joe Ruklick and hit a short shot with 46 seconds left to give him 100 points. Fans raced onto the court and play was halted as Chamberlain went to the lockerroom, where PR man Harvey Pollack scrawled "100" on a piece of paper and had Chamberlain hold it up for photographers.

In obliterating his previous NBA scoring record of 78 points set less than three months earlier, Chamberlain shot 36-for-63 from the field and 28-for-32 from the foul line, a remarkable feat for a man whose career free throw percentage was a weak .511.

"As time goes by," Chamberlain reflected more than three decades later, "I feel more and more a part of that 100-point game. It has become my handle, and I've come to realize just what I did."

Chamberlain went on to average an NBA-record 50.4 ppg in the 1961-62 season and became the only player to surpass 4,000 points in one season with 4,029. He also led the league in rebounding with 25.7 rpg and was second in field goal percentage at .506. Amazingly, Chamberlain also averaged 48.5 minutes per game-quite a feat when you consider that an NBA game lasts only 48 minutes. The Warriors played a total of 10 overtime periods in seven games that season, and Chamberlain was on the court for 3,882 of a possible 3,890 minutes. Of the team's 80 games, he went the distance in a record 79 of them.

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Yail Bloor Wrote:
BTW, and not for nothing, but that 100 point Wilt the Stilt game NEVER HAPPENED.

Prove it.


Wasn't there a radio broadcast? Conspiracy theories are great and all, but did the radio guy just sit there and pretend he was scoring that much?


Ever heard the tape? I have. Dunno, I've heard a lot of radio tape.....Again, prove it.

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BTW, and not for nothing, but that 100 point Wilt the Stilt game NEVER HAPPENED.

Prove it.


Wasn't there a radio broadcast? Conspiracy theories are great and all, but did the radio guy just sit there and pretend he was scoring that much?


Ever heard the tape? I have. Dunno, I've heard a lot of radio tape.....Again, prove it.


Umm.... and why would it be a fabrication?

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Huh? You work for Lyndon Larouche?

NBA's Greatest Moments
Wilt Scores 100!


The number matches the man.
Chamberlain's record for most points scored in a game has stood for 38 years.

On March 2, 1962, Wilt Chamberlain set the NBA single-game scoring record by tallying 100 points for the Philadelphia Warriors in a 169-147 victory over the New York Knicks.
Not 98 points, not 102, but a nice, round 100 -- an imposing record set by a most imposing player.

Chamberlain was a gargantuan force in the NBA, a player of Bunyanesque stature who seemed to overshadow all around him. He was a dominant offensive force, unstoppable on his way to the basket, yet he was also a fine all-around athlete who took pride in developing the all-around skills to compete with players a half-foot shorter.

He certainly was unstoppable that night in Hershey, Pa., where the Warriors played a few of their "home" games in order to attract additional fans. With New York's starting center, Phil Jordan, sidelined by the flu, Chamberlain could not be contained by Darrall Imhoff and Cleveland Buckner. He scored 23 points in the first quarter and had 41 by halftime, then tallied 28 in the third quarter, when the fans began to chant, "Give It To Wilt! Give It To Wilt!"

That's exactly what the Warriors did, feeding Chamberlain at every opportunity in the fourth quarter. The Knicks tried fouling other Philadelphia players to keep the ball away from Chamberlain, but the Warriors countered by committing fouls of their own to get the ball back.

Finally, Chamberlain took a pass from Joe Ruklick and hit a short shot with 46 seconds left to give him 100 points. Fans raced onto the court and play was halted as Chamberlain went to the lockerroom, where PR man Harvey Pollack scrawled "100" on a piece of paper and had Chamberlain hold it up for photographers.

In obliterating his previous NBA scoring record of 78 points set less than three months earlier, Chamberlain shot 36-for-63 from the field and 28-for-32 from the foul line, a remarkable feat for a man whose career free throw percentage was a weak .511.

"As time goes by," Chamberlain reflected more than three decades later, "I feel more and more a part of that 100-point game. It has become my handle, and I've come to realize just what I did."

Chamberlain went on to average an NBA-record 50.4 ppg in the 1961-62 season and became the only player to surpass 4,000 points in one season with 4,029. He also led the league in rebounding with 25.7 rpg and was second in field goal percentage at .506. Amazingly, Chamberlain also averaged 48.5 minutes per game-quite a feat when you consider that an NBA game lasts only 48 minutes. The Warriors played a total of 10 overtime periods in seven games that season, and Chamberlain was on the court for 3,882 of a possible 3,890 minutes. Of the team's 80 games, he went the distance in a record 79 of them.


*applause* Great. That tells me nothing. I've never even seen an a scorers chart that even the radio PBP hosts use to document this alleged thing. "Bunyonesuque" indeed. And 100 in a game or not, Wilt doesnt even crack the all time Top 8 IMHO (Jordan, M. Johnson, Bill Russell, Kareem, Oscar Robertson, Bird Jerry West, Elgin Baylor)

So, true or not, enjoy your cartoon record Mr. Chamberlain.

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BTW, and not for nothing, but that 100 point Wilt the Stilt game NEVER HAPPENED.

Prove it.


Wasn't there a radio broadcast? Conspiracy theories are great and all, but did the radio guy just sit there and pretend he was scoring that much?


Ever heard the tape? I have. Dunno, I've heard a lot of radio tape.....Again, prove it.


Umm.... and why would it be a fabrication?


Because the game was played in Hershey PA and reeks of an exibition not a legit NBA game. Because the evidence is not substantiated by anything other than some hazy accounts.....

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That's impressive, but also shows how little of a team game the NBA is, which is the primary reason (of many) that I have very little interest in it.


That's where you're wrong. The fact that he did it against the Raptors is case in point; if he did that against the Pistons (which he wouldn't) then Detroit would still probably win. An individual has still never won a championship in basketball.


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Jordan is still the best player ever, but I think its a lot closer than people (read Kobe haters) want to admit.


Wilt


how can you say that? Have you ever watched tapes of those games? There is no defense. Even if that wasn't the case, Jordan has won more championships. What makes Wilt better? He always talked himself up and rarely delivered the goods.


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Yail Bloor Wrote:
harry Wrote:
Yail Bloor Wrote:
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Yail Bloor Wrote:
BTW, and not for nothing, but that 100 point Wilt the Stilt game NEVER HAPPENED.

Prove it.


Wasn't there a radio broadcast? Conspiracy theories are great and all, but did the radio guy just sit there and pretend he was scoring that much?


Ever heard the tape? I have. Dunno, I've heard a lot of radio tape.....Again, prove it.


Umm.... and why would it be a fabrication?



Because the game was played in Hershey PA and reeks of an exibition not a legit NBA game. Because the evidence is not substantiated by anything other than some hazy accounts.....


I just think that if Kobe can put up 81 in this day and age, I'm sure Wilt could put up 100 against a bunch of 5'9" white guys in 1962. But I'm positive no human has ever walked on the moon.


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harry Wrote:

Huh? You work for Lyndon Larouche?

NBA's Greatest Moments
Wilt Scores 100!


The number matches the man.
Chamberlain's record for most points scored in a game has stood for 38 years.

On March 2, 1962, Wilt Chamberlain set the NBA single-game scoring record by tallying 100 points for the Philadelphia Warriors in a 169-147 victory over the New York Knicks.
Not 98 points, not 102, but a nice, round 100 -- an imposing record set by a most imposing player.

Chamberlain was a gargantuan force in the NBA, a player of Bunyanesque stature who seemed to overshadow all around him. He was a dominant offensive force, unstoppable on his way to the basket, yet he was also a fine all-around athlete who took pride in developing the all-around skills to compete with players a half-foot shorter.

He certainly was unstoppable that night in Hershey, Pa., where the Warriors played a few of their "home" games in order to attract additional fans. With New York's starting center, Phil Jordan, sidelined by the flu, Chamberlain could not be contained by Darrall Imhoff and Cleveland Buckner. He scored 23 points in the first quarter and had 41 by halftime, then tallied 28 in the third quarter, when the fans began to chant, "Give It To Wilt! Give It To Wilt!"

That's exactly what the Warriors did, feeding Chamberlain at every opportunity in the fourth quarter. The Knicks tried fouling other Philadelphia players to keep the ball away from Chamberlain, but the Warriors countered by committing fouls of their own to get the ball back.

Finally, Chamberlain took a pass from Joe Ruklick and hit a short shot with 46 seconds left to give him 100 points. Fans raced onto the court and play was halted as Chamberlain went to the lockerroom, where PR man Harvey Pollack scrawled "100" on a piece of paper and had Chamberlain hold it up for photographers.

In obliterating his previous NBA scoring record of 78 points set less than three months earlier, Chamberlain shot 36-for-63 from the field and 28-for-32 from the foul line, a remarkable feat for a man whose career free throw percentage was a weak .511.

"As time goes by," Chamberlain reflected more than three decades later, "I feel more and more a part of that 100-point game. It has become my handle, and I've come to realize just what I did."

Chamberlain went on to average an NBA-record 50.4 ppg in the 1961-62 season and became the only player to surpass 4,000 points in one season with 4,029. He also led the league in rebounding with 25.7 rpg and was second in field goal percentage at .506. Amazingly, Chamberlain also averaged 48.5 minutes per game-quite a feat when you consider that an NBA game lasts only 48 minutes. The Warriors played a total of 10 overtime periods in seven games that season, and Chamberlain was on the court for 3,882 of a possible 3,890 minutes. Of the team's 80 games, he went the distance in a record 79 of them.


*applause* Great. That tells me nothing. I've never even seen an a scorers chart that even the radio PBP hosts use to document this alleged thing. "Bunyonesuque" indeed. And 100 in a game or not, Wilt doesnt even crack the all time Top 8 IMHO (Jordan, M. Johnson, Bill Russell, Kareem, Oscar Robertson, Bird Jerry West, Elgin Baylor)

So, true or not, enjoy your cartoon record Mr. Chamberlain.


You forgot Dr. J.

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*applause* Great. That tells me nothing. I've never even seen an a scorers chart that even the radio PBP hosts use to document this alleged thing. "Bunyonesuque" indeed. And 100 in a game or not, Wilt doesnt even crack the all time Top 8 IMHO (Jordan, M. Johnson, Bill Russell, Kareem, Oscar Robertson, Bird Jerry West, Elgin Baylor)

So, true or not, enjoy your cartoon record Mr. Chamberlain.


You forgot Dr. J.


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*applause* Great. That tells me nothing. I've never even seen an a scorers chart that even the radio PBP hosts use to document this alleged thing. "Bunyonesuque" indeed. And 100 in a game or not, Wilt doesnt even crack the all time Top 8 IMHO (Jordan, M. Johnson, Bill Russell, Kareem, Oscar Robertson, Bird Jerry West, Elgin Baylor)

So, true or not, enjoy your cartoon record Mr. Chamberlain.


You forgot Dr. J.


Walton.


his dad was better.


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