I still have man love for you Chris.

I agree, Chris, that you shouldn't change your attitude toward someone based simply on finding out that they're gay, but you should realize that your online persona has changed drastically since you came out, so any change in others' perception of you could also be motivated by a change in the way you present yourself.

I gotta give you props. You, Aaron, and Matt were good sports the night I hung out in my boxers. And that's what love about you guys.

And your friend, Megan was pretty cool too. How's she doing?

I don't think I've changed that much, except for the gay thing. So basically if you liked me before I came out, why wouldn't you like me after? That's my point. So I would have to think it's the gay thing.

How would you categorize someone who I had a nice relationship with and even met in person, had lunch with, and now ever since they found out I was gay, avoids me like the plague.

Also, why haven't you changed your attitude towards me Aaron? Why hasn't Jen? But yet, some have and made it very obvious.

I dunno, I haven't talked to her in ages.

i don't know, chris - i guess it's hard to judge motives. maybe this person didn't have as nice a lunch as you did

but apart from just being gay, i think you talk about your personal sex life, or allude to it, a lot more now. some people might consider that generally in poor taste. of course, it's always possible that part of, even most of that is motivated more by the fact that it's gay sex talk than sex talk, but it's not for sure in every case.

Same thing, as far as I'm concerned. We will evolve our way past the first as we are already evolving past the second.

Chris, I have no problem with you. If you remember, we had a few disagreements before you came out. Haq's touched on some things that you post now that bother me a bit, and I just tend to react and post about them more than others do, maybe. I promise you, though, if I met you in person today, I would have no problem giving you a big hug. Honest.

ARE YOU KIDDING ME?
there is more talk from straight guys about their sex lives--real or imagined--going on here on a daily basis than all of our (yes, i did just say that) sex lives/desires put together.

more photos of naked women in some of the most horrendous situations posted by the straight male population on this board. although i must admit if i see that orleans album cover one more time i'm going to vomit.

i am in no way a separatist in terms of gay/straight or male female. my book is open. i wish i was into statistics because i would love to see how many straight guys have started these threads. y'know, most of them and the comments they hold are hysterical but then there's that fine line.

people consider chris' posts in poor taste? give me a break--this board is 80% poor taste and 20% music and even that 20% contains poor taste.

I feel, in some way, responsible for this.

I think Chris talks about the Phillies too much.

I will cop to the fact that I post those pictures in football threads just to be a dick.

But a gay dick, which I think is kinda refreshing.

lol, i don't even read the football threads but i'm going to start.
gotta say that it's not like i want things to change around here. alls i'm saying is i'm tired of the complaints that "the gays" are expressing their poor taste/funny crap (known for the funny) and get called out for it.

we're all half assed morons for spending so much time here in the first place.

i'm done.
i need a fucking day off.

Yeah, but my wife's adultery sure did hurt, fuck the 10 Commandments, it hurt.

Hopefully there are people here who consider that in poor taste too. I don't doubt that by and large the guys on this board are less receptive to explicit reference to gay sex than to straight sex. My point was only that some of the negative response Chris perceives may not be solely from the fact of his homosexuality but from his occasionally explicit reference to specific events. Come on, ayah - you're less enthusiastic about some posters because of the way they express their sexuality, "imagined" or otherwise, right? I'm not interested any boarder's sexual conquests, but sometimes I'm subjected to them, and sometimes the stories don't improve my opinion of the poster in question.

That shitting your pants thread is worse than anything Chris has posted.

this is a pretty stupid parallel to draw

and im on your side of this argument

this thread is wicked gay!!!

But it was HIlarious.

I liked Chris before I found out he is gay, and I still like Chris since finding out he is gay.

The only person about who my opinion changed upon learning of their homosexuality was my Dad, for obvious reasons. He's dead now, and I still love him, but it's still a very confusing and difficult to process situation. It would be a lot different to have been raised by openly gay parents, because I'd have known from the very beginning. But to not find out until well into my 30s, and for my Mom to have gone through more than three decades of marriage wthout knowing...that's really difficult. And he never really "came out," either. It started with us finding his stash of gay porn, then finding out about his trips to academic "conventions" to "collaborate" with "colleagues." It wasn't until his death that we finally managed to put all the pieces together, so I never had a chance to even really talk to him about it. I guess it doesn't change his relationship with me over the years, it just makes things a bit more ponderous in retrospect.

You know, this sounds less like you having a problem with your dad being gay, and more like you having a problem with your dad lying and manipulating.

what dana said.