Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 47 posts ] 

Board index : Music Talk : Rock/Pop

Go to page 1, 2  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: "His nudity was innapropriate" (a watcha readin thread)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:21 pm 
Offline
A True Aristocrat of Freedom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am
Posts: 22121
Location: a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot
I am reading Means of Ascent by Robert Caro, about LBJ, and specifically the 1948 Senate campaign against Coke Stevenson. It is awesome. I listened to the third volume on tape, but i will now finish this (Vol2) and go read the first, and then read the third for myself.

Still need to finish a book on Jim Folsom, and pick up something else for lighter-hearted fare.

I did, however get that new version of Curse of Lono finally. OH. MY. QUAL.
The fucker's huge! and a beautiful re-print of a great Thompson book. All of you fans who don't know this one, RUN, don't walk to get your copy.

_________________
Throughout his life, from childhood until death, he was beset by severe swings of mood. His depressions frequently encouraged, and were exacerbated by, his various vices. His character mixed a superficial Enlightenment sensibility for reason and taste with a genuine and somewhat Romantic love of the sublime and a propensity for occasionally puerile whimsy.
harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:28 pm 
Offline
"Weddings, Parties, Anything…"
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:12 pm
Posts: 988
Location: Seattle, WA
I've gone all these years without reading any Ellis, and that makes me a dummy-head. I'm reading Less Than Zero now and it's excellent. I think I'm going to go on an Ellis binge and just read it all in a row up to that thing that just came out. WTF took me so long to pick up one of his books? Jeez.

_________________
Believe this: The world works.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:35 pm 
Offline
Post-Breakup Solo Project
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:53 pm
Posts: 3262
Just finished My Dark Places by James ellroy, enjoyed it a lot so i have ordered a few more.

Currently re-reading perfume by Patrick Suskind. Such a beauty of a book.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:36 pm 
Offline
Alcoholic National Treasure

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm
Posts: 17155
LooG is the rest of that Caro series on tape? I should be listening to that right now...

_________________
Are you kidding? I have no talents. Nothing. I was very well educated to be an idiot. And I was a very good student.


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:38 pm 
Offline
A True Aristocrat of Freedom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am
Posts: 22121
Location: a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot
petecockroach Wrote:
Just finished My Dark Places by James ellroy, enjoyed it a lot so i have ordered a few more.

Currently re-reading perfume by Patrick Suskind. Such a beauty of a book.


Do yourself a favor and get American Tabloid and Cold 6 Thousand, stat!! You'll thank me.

Cotton -- dunno. The best thing about this volume, for me, is that it is about the beginnings of media campaigning. And you really get to see just what a power hungry duplicitous piece of shit Johnson is. It RULES.

_________________
Throughout his life, from childhood until death, he was beset by severe swings of mood. His depressions frequently encouraged, and were exacerbated by, his various vices. His character mixed a superficial Enlightenment sensibility for reason and taste with a genuine and somewhat Romantic love of the sublime and a propensity for occasionally puerile whimsy.
harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:38 pm 
Offline
frostingspoon
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:59 pm
Posts: 10777
Location: Sutton, Greater London
Gene Wolfe's Book of the New Sun series is going slowly, but I'm loving every minute of it.


Back to top
 Profile WWWYIM 
 
 Post subject: Re: "His nudity was innapropriate" (a watcha readin thread)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:40 pm 
Offline
Hair Trigger of Doom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 2:05 pm
Posts: 21295
Location: Subpoenaed in Texas
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
Coke Stevenson


Mrs. FT attended Coke Stevenson Jr. High in San Antonio.

_________________
bendandscoop.com


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject: Re: "His nudity was innapropriate" (a watcha readin thread)
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:42 pm 
Offline
A True Aristocrat of Freedom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am
Posts: 22121
Location: a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot
FT® Wrote:
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
Coke Stevenson


Mrs. FT attended Coke Stevenson Jr. High in San Antonio.


Apparently he was at one point the most popular politician in TX, Speaker of the House, Lt. Governor, Governor, and was drafted to run for Senate...and then LBJ dismantled him with some of the worst lies in history, and a lot of vote buying.

_________________
Throughout his life, from childhood until death, he was beset by severe swings of mood. His depressions frequently encouraged, and were exacerbated by, his various vices. His character mixed a superficial Enlightenment sensibility for reason and taste with a genuine and somewhat Romantic love of the sublime and a propensity for occasionally puerile whimsy.
harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:43 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:11 pm
Posts: 6697
Location: no sleep til brooklyn
i'm reading that rip it up and start again: post punk book.

_________________
last.fm


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:43 pm 
Offline
Alcoholic National Treasure

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm
Posts: 17155
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
Cotton -- dunno. The best thing about this volume, for me, is that it is about the beginnings of media campaigning. And you really get to see just what a power hungry duplicitous piece of shit Johnson is. It RULES.


Did I ever mention the semi-factual short story David Foster Wallace did about LBJ to you? It's called "Lyndon" I think and it's actually pretty fucking awesome considering. It's in a collection entitled The Girl With the curious Hair

_________________
Are you kidding? I have no talents. Nothing. I was very well educated to be an idiot. And I was a very good student.


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:45 pm 
Offline
A True Aristocrat of Freedom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am
Posts: 22121
Location: a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot
cotton Wrote:
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
Cotton -- dunno. The best thing about this volume, for me, is that it is about the beginnings of media campaigning. And you really get to see just what a power hungry duplicitous piece of shit Johnson is. It RULES.


Did I ever mention the semi-factual short story David Foster Wallace did about LBJ to you? It's called "Lyndon" I think and it's actually pretty fucking awesome considering. It's in a collection entitled The Girl With the curious Hair


No, and I have always avoided Wallace...Is that at my own peril?
What I mean is, is it worth tracking down?

(Wish we could YSI books like music ;) )

_________________
Throughout his life, from childhood until death, he was beset by severe swings of mood. His depressions frequently encouraged, and were exacerbated by, his various vices. His character mixed a superficial Enlightenment sensibility for reason and taste with a genuine and somewhat Romantic love of the sublime and a propensity for occasionally puerile whimsy.
harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:45 pm 
Offline
Post-Breakup Solo Project
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 09, 2005 1:53 pm
Posts: 3262
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
petecockroach Wrote:
Just finished My Dark Places by James ellroy, enjoyed it a lot so i have ordered a few more.

Currently re-reading perfume by Patrick Suskind. Such a beauty of a book.


Do yourself a favor and get American Tabloid and Cold 6 Thousand, stat!! You'll thank me.



Cool i ordered black dahlia & american tabloid


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:47 pm 
Offline
A True Aristocrat of Freedom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am
Posts: 22121
Location: a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot
petecockroach Wrote:
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
petecockroach Wrote:
Just finished My Dark Places by James ellroy, enjoyed it a lot so i have ordered a few more.

Currently re-reading perfume by Patrick Suskind. Such a beauty of a book.


Do yourself a favor and get American Tabloid and Cold 6 Thousand, stat!! You'll thank me.

Quote:

Cool i ordered black dahlia & american tabloid

Tabloid is kind of a history of the 1950s-1963 of the US, through the prizm of the mob, FBI, CIA, etc..if you like the whole JFK assassination thing, you should like it. Cold 6 is the sequel.

I seriously may go buy one of those tonite, haven't read either in over a year.

_________________
Throughout his life, from childhood until death, he was beset by severe swings of mood. His depressions frequently encouraged, and were exacerbated by, his various vices. His character mixed a superficial Enlightenment sensibility for reason and taste with a genuine and somewhat Romantic love of the sublime and a propensity for occasionally puerile whimsy.
harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:47 pm 
Offline
Alcoholic National Treasure

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 6:12 pm
Posts: 17155
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
No, and I have always avoided Wallace...Is that at my own peril?
What I mean is, is it worth tracking down?
(Wish we could YSI books like music ;) )


seriously. I think it's probably the best place to give him a shot. the stories are all over the place, but they're still pretty short and there's more than one great read in there. I still like that story the best out of it though, because it has all these little accuracies, like LBJ pissing in the trash can in his office, and his whole attitude is pretty spot on. I'm sure you can find it in a library pretty quick.

_________________
Are you kidding? I have no talents. Nothing. I was very well educated to be an idiot. And I was a very good student.


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:49 pm 
Offline
A True Aristocrat of Freedom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am
Posts: 22121
Location: a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot
cotton Wrote:
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
No, and I have always avoided Wallace...Is that at my own peril?
What I mean is, is it worth tracking down?
(Wish we could YSI books like music ;) )


seriously. I think it's probably the best place to give him a shot. the stories are all over the place, but they're still pretty short and there's more than one great read in there. I still like that story the best out of it though, because it has all these little accuracies, like LBJ pissing in the trash can in his office, and his whole attitude is pretty spot on. I'm sure you can find it in a library pretty quick.


Cool. I will check this out. Thanks for the rec..and it sounds pretty right on. LBJ = an open PIECE OF SHIT.

Funniest thing about the book? His biggest backers? Texas oilmen and Brown and Root -- sound like any other TExas president we have right now?

_________________
Throughout his life, from childhood until death, he was beset by severe swings of mood. His depressions frequently encouraged, and were exacerbated by, his various vices. His character mixed a superficial Enlightenment sensibility for reason and taste with a genuine and somewhat Romantic love of the sublime and a propensity for occasionally puerile whimsy.
harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:53 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:04 pm
Posts: 9783
Location: NOLA
Image
Paris 1919: Six Months that Changed the World

_________________
I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:54 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:04 pm
Posts: 9783
Location: NOLA
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
. LBJ = an open Effective PIECE OF SHIT.

[/i]

_________________
I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:56 pm 
Offline
A True Aristocrat of Freedom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am
Posts: 22121
Location: a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot
oldbullee Wrote:
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
. LBJ = an open Effective PIECE OF SHIT.

[/i]


Well, yeah, from a practical political point of view, he is the greatest politician ever. Nixon is a close second, and they are basically 2 sides of the same coin.

Clin-Ton approaches them, but his effectiveness is debatable, even to open apologists like me.

_________________
Throughout his life, from childhood until death, he was beset by severe swings of mood. His depressions frequently encouraged, and were exacerbated by, his various vices. His character mixed a superficial Enlightenment sensibility for reason and taste with a genuine and somewhat Romantic love of the sublime and a propensity for occasionally puerile whimsy.
harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 3:57 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum

Joined: Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:04 pm
Posts: 9783
Location: NOLA
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
oldbullee Wrote:
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
. LBJ = an open Effective PIECE OF SHIT.

[/i]


Well, yeah, from a practical political point of view, he is the greatest politician ever. Nixon is a close second, and they are basically 2 sides of the same coin.

Clin-Ton approaches them, but his effectiveness is debatable, even to open apologists like me.


Couldn't agree more.

_________________
I tried to find somebody of that sort that I could like that nobody else did - because everybody would adopt his group, and his group would be _it_; someone weird like Captain Beefheart. It's no different now - people trying to outdo ! each other in extremes. There are people who like X, and there are people who say X are wimps; they like Black Flag.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:01 pm 
Offline
A True Aristocrat of Freedom

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 11:46 am
Posts: 22121
Location: a worn-out debauchee and drivelling sot
oldbullee Wrote:
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
oldbullee Wrote:
Senator Top Cat LooGAR Wrote:
. LBJ = an open Effective PIECE OF SHIT.

[/i]


Well, yeah, from a practical political point of view, he is the greatest politician ever. Nixon is a close second, and they are basically 2 sides of the same coin.

Clin-Ton approaches them, but his effectiveness is debatable, even to open apologists like me.


Couldn't agree more.


I'm gonna finish this and the first one, and then jump onto some Nixon stuff.

I actually really want to read a bio of Henry Clay, but I've never found one with t he wit and style of a Caro or Halberstam.

_________________
Throughout his life, from childhood until death, he was beset by severe swings of mood. His depressions frequently encouraged, and were exacerbated by, his various vices. His character mixed a superficial Enlightenment sensibility for reason and taste with a genuine and somewhat Romantic love of the sublime and a propensity for occasionally puerile whimsy.
harry Wrote:
I understand that you, of all people, know this crisis and, in your own way, are working to address it. You, the madras-pantsed julip-sipping Southern cracker and me, the oldman hippie California fruit cake are brothers in the struggle to save our country.

FT Wrote:
LooGAR (the straw that stirs the drink)


Back to top
 Profile WWW 
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:03 pm 
Offline
The Great American Songbook
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:45 pm
Posts: 4690
Location: Lost Angeles
Finished within the last week"

Priest - The Prestige
Burroughs - Dry
Feinstein - The Punch:One night, two lives, and the nightthat changed basketball forever

Current:
Whitelaw - Belle and Sebastian (just a modern rock story)

On Deck:
William Christopher Baer - The three-books-in-one Phineas Poe monster (Kiss Me Judas, Penny Dreadful, Hell's Half Acre)


I'se been readin'.

_________________
"the pictures of your kitty just made my heart burst into little rainbows of bubblegum and bunnies" - Katie, a princess

Image


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:04 pm 
Offline
Self-Released 7-Inch

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 3:48 pm
Posts: 1065
Location: brooklyn
Image

it's really good so far- completely packed with historical context and insane detail - but i haven't quite been able to get into a groove with it yet.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:07 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum
User avatar

Joined: Mon Oct 25, 2004 12:03 pm
Posts: 6402
Postmersh Wrote:
Burroughs - Dry


what did you think?
i really liked the first half a lot but i think that's because i had a contact drunk on just from reading it.
the pages started to smell like liquor to me.


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:10 pm 
Offline
The Great American Songbook
User avatar

Joined: Wed Nov 03, 2004 7:45 pm
Posts: 4690
Location: Lost Angeles
ayah Wrote:
Postmersh Wrote:
Burroughs - Dry


what did you think?
i really liked the first half a lot but i think that's because i had a contact drunk on just from reading it.
the pages started to smell like liquor to me.


Yeah - I'm not drinking right now, and have never been a big whiskey person, but that book sure made me want to drink quite a few times.

I didn't enjoy it all that much, but it had to be better than I thought (in retrospect) in order to make me thirst so much...

That, or my liver's a stronger force than I thought.

_________________
"the pictures of your kitty just made my heart burst into little rainbows of bubblegum and bunnies" - Katie, a princess

Image


Back to top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject:
PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 4:30 pm 
Offline
Go Platinum
User avatar

Joined: Thu Dec 02, 2004 8:39 pm
Posts: 6960
Location: St. Louis
Damn Curse of Lono book. I grabbed a copy when it first came out...read it...loved it...gave it away as a gift, figuring i'd grab another copy. Then, it went out of print. Glad to hear its around again, I'll be keeping my eyes open for a copy.

Readin' a lot of Joyce Carol Oats stuff right now...she's hit and miss for me, but when good, very good. And, yeah...its way wussy compared to Thompson...sue me...I'm old now.

_________________
"It's clear. I'm done for. There is no salvation for me now. And my head is devoid of any elevated thoughts." - Daniil Kharms


Back to top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 47 posts ] 

Board index : Music Talk : Rock/Pop

Go to page 1, 2  Next

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Style by Midnight Phoenix & N.Design Studio
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group.