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Or at least with the Dodgers: http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/mlb/news/ ... &fext=.jsp


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The best Xmas present of all... until they sign Beltran.


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Daily News said that Javier Vasquez refused to report to LA for a physical, and was one of the deal breakers..... Wow, if thats true, he fucked us during the regular season and now the off season as well.

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Don't know for sure but this is coming from L.A. today:

L.A. pulls out of trade involving Yankees and Arizona when pitcher Vazquez refuses to take a physical. Drew signing is still imminent.

By Steve Henson, Times Staff Writer

Shawn Green doesn't have to house-hunt in Scottsdale, Ariz. No need for Brad Penny to descend the mountain he's climbing to take a physical. Kazuhisa Ishii can continue vacationing in Hawaii, and Yhency Brazoban can cancel the U-Haul.

But slugging free-agent outfielder J.D. Drew can book a flight to Los Angeles anyway.

The Dodgers, resisting pressure from the New York Yankees and Arizona Diamondbacks, pulled out of a three-team trade that had been discussed for days and was erroneously reported as being completed by media outlets covering the Yankees.

The plug was pulled on the blockbuster 10-player deal because Javier Vazquez, the high-priced Yankee pitcher who would have come to the Dodgers, refused to take a physical, according to a source with knowledge of the negotiations.

However, a source close to Vazquez said he was willing to be examined but had expressed to the Dodgers that he wanted to remain on the East Coast. Vazquez has three years and $35 million remaining on his contract and can demand a trade after next season.

Drew, who hit 31 home runs for the Atlanta Braves last season, has no such qualms. He has agreed to terms on what is believed to be a five-year, $55-million deal with the Dodgers, according to sources, and is expected to play right field. Green, in the last year of a contract that pays him $16 million, could play first base as he did much of last season, or could still be traded.

But the big deal became a big bust when Vazquez balked. General Manager Paul DePodesta considered taking him anyway and then trading him, but couldn't find a suitable match.

"There were factors that forced us to make the decision," DePodesta said. "Of the three teams, we put an end to it."

Owner Frank McCourt informed Yankee and Diamondback brass Tuesday afternoon that five-time Cy Young Award winner Randy Johnson would have to find his way from Phoenix to New York without the help of the Dodgers.

Although Vazquez has had no history of arm problems, his health was questioned late last season when he was 1-4 in his last nine starts with an earned-run average of 7.00 and was hit hard in three playoff appearances. Until the skid, he was 13-6.

Vazquez, 28, is vacationing with his family in the Virgin Islands and was unavailable for comment.

The Yankees had been so convinced the trade would be finalized they took the unusual step of seeking permission from the commissioner's office for Johnson to take a physical before the trade was approved. He planned to fly to New York, take a physical today, then begin a vacation.

DePodesta had cautioned for days that the trade was not as close as several media outlets portrayed it. He said it didn't make sense "as a stand-alone" and that he needed to have other moves in place that would be triggered by the deal. He never intimated that Vazquez would be reluctant to become a Dodger.

Even Tuesday, DePodesta would not comment on health questions regarding any player in the proposed deal other than to say the biceps injury suffered by Penny in August would not have held it up.

"I don't want to get into details of it," DePodesta said. "It's not fair to everybody involved. Nobody took a physical. It never got to that point. It wasn't holding this up."

The key acquisition for the Dodgers would have been minor league catcher Dioner Navarro, who Baseball America rated as the top Yankee prospect. The Dodgers say he could break into the major leagues at some point next season and become a starter by 2006.

"Navarro was the jewel of the trade, a guy who could have been our catcher for five or six years," a Dodger source said.

Navarro and third baseman Eric Duncan, the other highly regarded Yankee prospect, were not enough for the Dodgers to make a deal that included an obstinate Vazquez.

A fourth player who would have come to the Dodgers was Arizona reliever Mike Koplove.

"I've been saying all along we wouldn't do the deal unless it makes sense for the 2005 club," DePodesta said.

The Dodgers planned to sign Drew to fill the void left by Green, who hit 28 home runs last season. Negotiations were so far along the team decided to sign him even though the trade fell through. He is expected to have a physical Thursday.

DePodesta also wants to add to the pitching staff, even after retaining Brazoban, an effective reliever as a rookie, and starters Penny and Ishii.

"Our needs really haven't changed," he said.

Despite all the time and effort put into the trade that never happened, DePodesta said he regretted nothing except the uncertainty it caused the players.

"I think it's terrible that the players were reading their names in the papers," he said. "In reality it was a long way from being done. I'm looking forward to making a call to some of the guys and telling them to settle down and not be concerned with being traded."


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My buddy just told me that Vasquez was onvacation on a tropical island somewhere, and said he would take the phyisical when he got back.....didnt want to leave his family righ tthen...

i say, if you are getting paid millions of dollars to play baseball, you should be on call by your bosses at any time.....

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i say, if you are getting paid millions of dollars to play baseball, you should be on call by your bosses at any time.....


Upset!

The Dodgers made a good move by backing out, and I fucking hate them with a passion. They already gave away Kevin Brown, so they can’t just keep taking it from the Yankees.


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randy johnson would be a terrible mistake. the yankees have to abandon the idea that they can buy old overworked players and succeed. they are becoming so ridiculously lame...never have i been gladder to jump a team's ship.

it was just a little easier to root for them 1996-1998 when most of the team was gotten legitimately through farm system and trades and not ridiculous money-out-the-yangbox trades.

i hate the goddamn yankees.

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As a man who might be going in on some season tix this year, I am VERY glad that the dodgers aren't doing this deal...

Maybe, since they're available, Edwin Jackson and Shawn Green can go to CO with a prospect for Todd Helton. Now THAT'S a team I'd like to see....

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As a man who might be going in on some season tix this year, I am VERY glad that the dodgers aren't doing this deal...

Maybe, since they're available, Edwin Jackson and Shawn Green can go to CO with a prospect for Todd Helton. Now THAT'S a team I'd like to see....


There is the matter of Helton's home-road split though. This past season, it dwindled -- i.e. he hit better on the road while staying lights-out in Coors --, but one season is not a pattern. Unless he just had undergone Lasik surgery before Spring Training.


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But it would basically be a tradeoff of Shawn Green (who is/will be playing out of position at first) for Helton - it'd be worth it for the defense alone. Plus, Helton can hit for average and moderate power per his road split, and still make a formative middle of the lineup (with Kent and JD Drew)...

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